The guns, the war, money and the American Culture... ( Archived) (51)

iamsimply: I think "Yes"! The American people are a lot like the people of Turkey and these things are stuck in their minds like many other cultures!

War makes jobs, creates wealth, galvanises industry!

Money! Now what the heck would we do without money?

Guns... well if they didn't have guns us Canadians would rush across their borders and make them drink our beer!!

The American culture ... their only a few hundred years old , it's still developing! You guys have been in town a lot longer, but accomplished less I might add! Hmmmmm! I wonder why? Not true ... I know why!

Didn't you Turks do something to the Ottoman Empire that wasn't very nice by the way ... maybe they didn't have enough guns, money, blasting powder and uranium to atop you!! Maybe the Americans stocked up on all that stuff just in case Turkey came knocking on their door ...

Hey!! If you Turks don't have guns, money and all that stuff, maybe us Canuks can pay you guys a visit and get you to drink our beer, we love to share!!

orhansenbahar: I wonder whether these four are sticked with a glue made of the brains of American people, powder of dynamite, Uranium and very very very much money...

simiain: Maybe we could express this in a different way, Do you think the people of the USA or Britain will ever take responsibility for the actions of their democratically elected governments, who lets face it under the Bush B'liar coalition, have committed war crimes at least equivalent to those of Mr Karadzic and other indicted Serb war criminals. Or do you think that our nations have the right to invade all and everyone we desire, especially those whose national boundaries contain minerals we like

I will quote this American penned article from somewhere in the middle, the whole piece is worth reading.

Lifted from The Surreal Politics of Premeditated War
by R.W. Behan

his second week in office, President Bush appointed Vice President Cheney to chair a National Energy Policy Development Group. The supersecret “Energy Task Force,” as it came to known, was composed of officials from the relevant federal agencies and beyond question heavily attended by energy industry executives and lobbyists. (The full membership has yet to be revealed, but Enron’s Kenneth Lay was conspicuously present.)

One brute fact had to be apparent to the Task Force: in the Caspian Basin, and beneath the Iraqi deserts there are 125 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, and the potential for 433 billion barrels more. Anyone controlling that much oil could break OPEC’s stranglehold overnight.

By early March, 2001, the Task Force was poring over maps of the Iraqi oilfields, pipelines, tanker terminals, and oil exploration blocks. It studied an inventory of “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts”—dozens of oil companies from 30 different countries, in various stages of exploring and developing Iraqi crude. (These documents were forced into view several years later by a citizen group, Judicial Watch, with a Freedom of Information Act proceeding. It wasn’t easy—the Bush Administration appealed the lawsuit all the way to the Supreme Court—but the maps and documents can now be seen and downloaded at : )Not a single U.S. oil company, however, was among the “suitors,” and that was intolerable. Mr. Cheney’s task force concluded, “By any estimation, Middle East oil producers will remain central to world security. The Gulf will be a primary focus of U.S. international energy policy.” It has become very clear over the past six years that the majority of our two nations do not want to know this and will if ever questioned
about it immediately lash out with abusive denials and remarks I have yet to engage with a US or UK citizen who could debate the Bush Bliarite position using corroborated facts.

However the rest of the world has no such loyalty to our criminal leaders and maybe - as Mr Bush (the man who invented Extraordinary Rendition and condoned the use of torture) lectures China on its human rights record, - now is the time for us to listen to their words rather than shooting off our mouths, guns and tomahawk missiles at the first sight of criticism.

simiain: Maybe we could express this in a different way, Do you think the people of the USA or Britain will ever take responsibility for the actions of their democratically elected governments, who lets face it under the Bush B'liar coalition, have committed war crimes at least equivalent to those of Mr Karadzic and other indicted Serb war criminals. Or do you think that our nations have the right to invade all and everyone we desire, especially those whose national boundaries contain minerals we like

I will quote this American penned article from somewhere in the middle, the whole piece is worth reading.

Lifted from The Surreal Politics of Premeditated War
by R.W. Behan

his second week in office, President Bush appointed Vice President Cheney to chair a National Energy Policy Development Group. The supersecret “Energy Task Force,” as it came to known, was composed of officials from the relevant federal agencies and beyond question heavily attended by energy industry executives and lobbyists. (The full membership has yet to be revealed, but Enron’s Kenneth Lay was conspicuously present.)

One brute fact had to be apparent to the Task Force: in the Caspian Basin, and beneath the Iraqi deserts there are 125 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, and the potential for 433 billion barrels more. Anyone controlling that much oil could break OPEC’s stranglehold overnight.

By early March, 2001, the Task Force was poring over maps of the Iraqi oilfields, pipelines, tanker terminals, and oil exploration blocks. It studied an inventory of “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts”—dozens of oil companies from 30 different countries, in various stages of exploring and developing Iraqi crude. (These documents were forced into view several years later by a citizen group, Judicial Watch, with a Freedom of Information Act proceeding. It wasn’t easy—the Bush Administration appealed the lawsuit all the way to the Supreme Court—but the maps and documents can now be seen and downloaded at : )Not a single U.S. oil company, however, was among the “suitors,” and that was intolerable. Mr. Cheney’s task force concluded, “By any estimation, Middle East oil producers will remain central to world security. The Gulf will be a primary focus of U.S. international energy policy.” It has become very clear over the past six years that the majority of our two nations do not want to know this and will if ever questioned
about it immediately lash out with abusive denials and remarks I have yet to engage with a US or UK citizen who could debate the Bush Bliarite position using corroborated facts.

However the rest of the world has no such loyalty to our criminal leaders and maybe - as Mr Bush (the man who invented Extraordinary Rendition and condoned the use of torture) lectures China on its human rights record, - now is the time for us to listen to their words rather than shooting off our mouths, guns and tomahawk missiles at the first sight of criticism.

arabella: Uranium was discovered by a German chemist. You learn something every day, don't you buddy

iamsimply: Hey! guy from Switzerland, us Canuks know you all have lots of weapons, skis, money and weed but seem likes you never really get involved in a conflict!!

Wouldn't you rather have a Molsons Canadian peacefully!! I'll pour .... If you like our beer we can talk Turkey