McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What! (114)
kkitty4u: well good luck with convincing the public
It must be that the American public and the Irish public have different ideas of whats their business.
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jbibiza: If that were the case then I would remove myself from the public eye so she wouldn´t be in the position of having it exposed.
jbibiza, then you are then hiding the situation.
I am just using that as example of how and why many wealthy get into this situation to cover the situation. All will react differently to it. And none in my opinion should be judged for the decisions and the outcomes.
I am only pointing out that the Palins took a very high road and honest position to this, again in my opinion. And I am not making them saints. Fair enough?
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Fallingman: Fair enough. But this girl isn't a politician and has the right to her privacy!
I wish was the case, fallingman. I really do.
But as soon as her mother made the short list and vetting began.......this was going to come out. McCain could have said.....you are not qualified for the position. And how 'fair' would that be?
And hey B.Clinton made the jump from Governor to President.
She is a qualified canidate.
You don't scratch the career of a very talented person, because they have a family issue. You work with it. Adapt your programs and positions if you want them.
And it sure sends a message between the vetting differences in policies of Dem and Rep when Hillary was not vetted.
I would suggest that the Dem to a degree brought them on themselves when they did not vet Hillary. Hillary's women supporters had to see that as a insult. Now McCain has a chance to show the difference in the party practices? In a tight race?
You would make the exact same decision that he did, Fallingman, I bet.
I would. Bring her on the ticket.
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vonney: She shouldnt have to, this matter is not the publics business
Vonny...maybe this is where the ditto comes in.
In four months assuming Bristol wanted to have the child. This was going to be public, yes? So if that decision had been made....just make the public announcement....and let her mother have her career shot at the White House.
When you get it down to the coming of future events....and the career of Sarah Palin.......this really shows good judgement by the McCain camp. It was done with maturity and with some compassion....as the Palin's did asked for privacy on it.
That we (myself included) have decide to blog and post on it......and others far more.....maybe is a invasion of that privacy. Sarah Palin was already a public figure. They likely blog and post about her in Alaska all the time.
So do it with maturity and respect for the parties. State your opinions but with descretion. Most here have in my opinion.
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Even Obama said Palin's daughter should be off-limits for any smear campaign against McCain and her. Apparently, no one's listening since it is all over the news and everyone is using it as an excuse to why she can't be the VP.
When will we just stick to what they want to do with the country instead of what their family members do?
JMO
When will we just stick to what they want to do with the country instead of what their family members do?
JMO
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Shot when you finished that conversation with your wife, on your daughter use of birthcontrol, you looked around the bar and you were
likely pretty happy that none of your regulars were within ear shot
of the conversation, yes? Both to protect your daughter's reputation
and the talk in the coummunity it would cause. end quote
ttom50, I'm sure you're sincere and I'm sure you're a nice guy.
But you've got totally the wrong idea about how people live.
There is absolutely and definitely no stigma whatsoever attached to having kids and not being married. I don't know the statistics but many many people are not getting married, bur having families.
It is either a majority, or will be at some point.
They just don't see the point of having other people preach to them or pass judgment on them.
More than half of marriages end in divorce so people increasingly realise that the commitment should come from themselves and not be dictated to them, as in vows before the priest or the registry official.
I honestly had to laugh when you talked about talk in the community. You must be on a different planet than the people I know, in fact I'm sure of it.
I also had to laugh when you spoke of the philosophy of honesty and forthrightness in your country.
That's up to each individual, and it's absurd to make that claim for the USA, which became the richest country on earth by practicing ruthless capitalism, i.e. dog eat dog and the devil take the hindmost. I don't have a problem with that, in fact I'm a big fan of the USA.
I would say, from my long experience, that most people are out to look after #1.
Personally I like to help others in a small way. This morning my neighbour passed my in his donkey cart, and asked me if I could lend him 10 leva till the 10th of the month, when he would get his pension. I gave him 20 lv (I didn't have anything smaller) and told him I definitely didn't want it back under any circumstances. God bless you he cried.
Shot when you finished that conversation with your wife, on your daughter use of birthcontrol, you looked around the bar and you were
likely pretty happy that none of your regulars were within ear shot
of the conversation, yes? Both to protect your daughter's reputation
and the talk in the coummunity it would cause. end quote
ttom50, I'm sure you're sincere and I'm sure you're a nice guy.
But you've got totally the wrong idea about how people live.
There is absolutely and definitely no stigma whatsoever attached to having kids and not being married. I don't know the statistics but many many people are not getting married, bur having families.
It is either a majority, or will be at some point.
They just don't see the point of having other people preach to them or pass judgment on them.
More than half of marriages end in divorce so people increasingly realise that the commitment should come from themselves and not be dictated to them, as in vows before the priest or the registry official.
I honestly had to laugh when you talked about talk in the community. You must be on a different planet than the people I know, in fact I'm sure of it.
I also had to laugh when you spoke of the philosophy of honesty and forthrightness in your country.
That's up to each individual, and it's absurd to make that claim for the USA, which became the richest country on earth by practicing ruthless capitalism, i.e. dog eat dog and the devil take the hindmost. I don't have a problem with that, in fact I'm a big fan of the USA.
I would say, from my long experience, that most people are out to look after #1.
Personally I like to help others in a small way. This morning my neighbour passed my in his donkey cart, and asked me if I could lend him 10 leva till the 10th of the month, when he would get his pension. I gave him 20 lv (I didn't have anything smaller) and told him I definitely didn't want it back under any circumstances. God bless you he cried.
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For our fine friends overseas (and probably a few americans) When you listen to CNN's Cafferty report emails... Those are certainly filtered. He'll read 8 or 10 negative comments about Palin....to 1 for her.
That's not a representative sample....just the way old man Cafferty likes to spin his 15 daily minutes of fame. There's no way the old -------- is remotely objective.
That's not a representative sample....just the way old man Cafferty likes to spin his 15 daily minutes of fame. There's no way the old -------- is remotely objective.
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Indyfella: For our fine friends overseas (and probably a few americans) When you listen to CNN's Cafferty report emails... Those are certainly filtered. He'll read 8 or 10 negative comments about Palin....to 1 for her.
That's not a representative sample....just the way old man Cafferty likes to spin his 15 daily minutes of fame. There's no way the old -------- is remotely objective.
and thats just one example of the all mighty CNN....That's not a representative sample....just the way old man Cafferty likes to spin his 15 daily minutes of fame. There's no way the old -------- is remotely objective.
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Indyfella: So your thread wasn't really even remotely objective....just a shill for Obama?
YA Think?
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SusieRR: YA Think?
Hell, I looked back and I can't even find that post
But what the hell, I'll take credit anyway....
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Indyfella: Hell, I looked back and I can't even find that post But what the hell, I'll take credit anyway....
Aw don't waste your time, just trust me....
I'm outta here again, guess where I'm off to?
But don't rejoice yet, I plan to be back and schill some more.
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SusieRR: Aw don't waste your time, just trust me....
I'm outta here again, guess where I'm off to?
But don't rejoice yet , I plan to be back and schill some more.
I'm outta here again, guess where I'm off to?
But don't rejoice yet , I plan to be back and schill some more.
I hope you're able to walk to his headquarters.
I'd be storing up a lot of gas in your shed if I were you.... I don't see Obama allowing any new drilling once he gets in...he made that clear.
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shot3743: quote Shot when you finished that conversation with your wife, on your daughter use of birthcontrol, you looked around the bar and you were
likely pretty happy that none of your regulars were within ear shot
of the conversation, yes? Both to protect your daughter's reputation
and the talk in the coummunity it would cause. end quotettom50, I'm sure you're sincere and I'm sure you're a nice guy.
But you've got totally the wrong idea about how people live.
There is absolutely and definitely no stigma whatsoever attached to having kids and not being married. I don't know the statistics but many many people are not getting married, bur having families.
It is either a majority, or will be at some point.
They just don't see the point of having other people preach to them or pass judgment on them.
More than half of marriages end in divorce so people increasingly realise that the commitment should come from themselves and not be dictated to them, as in vows before the priest or the registry official.
I honestly had to laugh when you talked about talk in the community. You must be on a different planet than the people I know, in fact I'm sure of it.
I also had to laugh when you spoke of the philosophy of honesty and forthrightness in your country.
That's up to each individual, and it's absurd to make that claim for the USA, which became the richest country on earth by practicing ruthless capitalism, i.e. dog eat dog and the devil take the hindmost. I don't have a problem with that, in fact I'm a big fan of the USA.
I would say, from my long experience, that most people are out to look after #1.
Personally I like to help others in a small way. This morning my neighbour passed my in his donkey cart, and asked me if I could lend him 10 leva till the 10th of the month, when he would get his pension. I gave him 20 lv (I didn't have anything smaller) and told him I definitely didn't want it back under any circumstances. God bless you he cried.
likely pretty happy that none of your regulars were within ear shot
of the conversation, yes? Both to protect your daughter's reputation
and the talk in the coummunity it would cause. end quotettom50, I'm sure you're sincere and I'm sure you're a nice guy.
But you've got totally the wrong idea about how people live.
There is absolutely and definitely no stigma whatsoever attached to having kids and not being married. I don't know the statistics but many many people are not getting married, bur having families.
It is either a majority, or will be at some point.
They just don't see the point of having other people preach to them or pass judgment on them.
More than half of marriages end in divorce so people increasingly realise that the commitment should come from themselves and not be dictated to them, as in vows before the priest or the registry official.
I honestly had to laugh when you talked about talk in the community. You must be on a different planet than the people I know, in fact I'm sure of it.
I also had to laugh when you spoke of the philosophy of honesty and forthrightness in your country.
That's up to each individual, and it's absurd to make that claim for the USA, which became the richest country on earth by practicing ruthless capitalism, i.e. dog eat dog and the devil take the hindmost. I don't have a problem with that, in fact I'm a big fan of the USA.
I would say, from my long experience, that most people are out to look after #1.
Personally I like to help others in a small way. This morning my neighbour passed my in his donkey cart, and asked me if I could lend him 10 leva till the 10th of the month, when he would get his pension. I gave him 20 lv (I didn't have anything smaller) and told him I definitely didn't want it back under any circumstances. God bless you he cried.
shot I appreciated that you shared a very personal moment with your wife and self. The point I made was that right now, the Palin family is having one of the same kinds of moments. Only in the very public and open manner.
To me that is honesty. Just as your brought that moment to CS.
My post was about the honety and forthrightness of the Palins.
I would not include 'all' of my country in having the same values.
And indeed find myself often falling short of them.
Buy you a beer if I ever get to your estalishment.
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well good luck with convincing the public