McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What! ( Archived) (114)

Sep 2, 2008 7:56 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
should the actions of ones children be a basis on which to judge the character/moral fiber of the parent?
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Sep 2, 2008 7:57 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
fireliter: should the actions of ones children be a basis on which to judge the character/moral fiber of the parent?


Why would we even discuss it?

I suggest we don't.

None of our business.

dunno
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Sep 2, 2008 8:05 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Fallingman: Why would we even discuss it?

I suggest we don't.

None of our business.



I agree, it has nothing to do with it.
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Sep 2, 2008 8:06 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
Fallingman: Why would we even discuss it?

I suggest we don't.

None of our business.


I just thought those Democrats would be all over this as another reason not to consider voting for Mccain.
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Sep 2, 2008 8:08 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
There are plenty of reasons not to vote for him outside of a 17 y/o pregnant daughter. smoking
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Sep 2, 2008 10:33 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
shipoker58
shipoker58shipoker58Las Vegas, Nevada USA30 Threads 2,969 Posts
fireliter: should the actions of ones children be a basis on which to judge the character/moral fiber of the parent?






yes...because if the shoe was on the other foot, the republicans would be all over it.



I think it's funny, how all these "good family value" candidates all have skeletons in their closets. From gay daughters, to unwed parents, to senators in bathrooms, to text messaging pages.
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Sep 2, 2008 10:35 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
shipoker58: yes...because if the shoe was on the other foot, the republicans would be all over it.
I think it's funny, how all these "good family value" candidates all have skeletons in their closets. From gay daughters, to unwed parents, to senators in bathrooms, to text messaging pages.


there is none righteous in this world, especially the ones who claim
to be righteous. laugh
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Sep 2, 2008 11:25 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
Shanmariee
ShanmarieeShanmarieeSpokane, Washington USA9 Threads 396 Posts
fireliter: I just thought those Democrats would be all over this as another reason not to consider voting for Mccain.


That is because Obama knew that it was best for him to keep his mouth shut about it. By not bashing McCain VP it enables possible surfacing of a new kind of respect for him surprising everyone that he is not that juvenile or low of a person. He's using it as strategic step to gain more votes later.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:26 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
Shanmariee: That is because Obama knew that it was best for him to keep his mouth shut about it. By not bashing McCain VP it enables possible surfacing of a new kind of respect for him surprising everyone that he is not that juvenile or low of a person. He's using it as strategic step to gain more votes later.


rolling on the floor laughing "No win" situation, clearly defined...

No, perhaps he has more class than that.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:27 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
princess49503
princess49503princess49503grand rapids, Michigan USA18 Threads 1 Polls 1,485 Posts
Don216: TV, movies, music, etc.


what the hell kind of TV, Movies, Music are they watching?

I don't buy that excuse.....Parents can try to wash they're hands of responsibility for the teenagers f**k-ups, but it's not going to work. The parents ARE responsible.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:31 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
kkitty4u
kkitty4ukkitty4uSt Paul, Minnesota USA24 Threads 3 Polls 1,138 Posts
fireliter: should the actions of ones children be a basis on which to judge the character/moral fiber of the parent?


yeah............. your children are like little copies of yourself
at this day and age I find it very hard for an accident to happen.

I think Mcain is well I'll keep that to myself. I would never want her to be running our country roll eyes
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Sep 2, 2008 11:32 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
For the record, I agree with a friend of mine that the whole daughter angle is a bad one, and should rightfully be off limits, despite the fact that if the situation were reversed, I doubt the GOP would be quiet about it.

That, and I suspect this thread could get a bit chippy. uh oh
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Sep 2, 2008 11:33 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
FlowerOfTheSun
FlowerOfTheSunFlowerOfTheSunMalaga, Andalusia Spain7 Threads 1,017 Posts
princess49503: what the hell kind of TV, Movies, Music are they watching?

I don't buy that excuse.....Parents can try to wash they're hands of responsibility for the teenagers f**k-ups, but it's not going to work. The parents ARE responsible.


And of course you know this because you have brought up several kids and know exactely how to be responsible for every single thing that your children have done while they were out with their friends? Am i right?
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Sep 2, 2008 11:33 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
jetdevil2001
jetdevil2001jetdevil2001Tashkent, Uzbekistan6 Threads 1 Polls 406 Posts
Do not know even what to say about itconfused
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Sep 2, 2008 11:37 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
princess49503
princess49503princess49503grand rapids, Michigan USA18 Threads 1 Polls 1,485 Posts
FlowerOfTheSun: And of course you know this because you have brought up several kids and know exactely how to be responsible for every single thing that your children have done while they were out with their friends? Am i right?



Oh get real!

It doesn't take a rocket scientist or a mother of 20 to know what common sense is.

i guess some people have common sense and some people don't.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:41 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
kkitty4u
kkitty4ukkitty4uSt Paul, Minnesota USA24 Threads 3 Polls 1,138 Posts
rwantin: For the record, I agree with a friend of mine that the whole daughter angle is a bad one, and should rightfully be off limits, despite the fact that if the situation were reversed, I doubt the GOP would be quiet about it.

That, and I suspect this thread could get a bit chippy.


I agree it should be off limits, its too late for that, the cats out of the bag and well you just cant help not to have an opinion on it grin
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Sep 2, 2008 11:44 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
FlowerOfTheSun
FlowerOfTheSunFlowerOfTheSunMalaga, Andalusia Spain7 Threads 1,017 Posts
princess49503: Yes! Duh!!!


While aren't you the charming one!!!
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Sep 2, 2008 11:49 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
FlowerOfTheSun
FlowerOfTheSunFlowerOfTheSunMalaga, Andalusia Spain7 Threads 1,017 Posts
princess49503: Oh get real!

It doesn't take a rocket scientist or a mother of 20 to know what common sense is.

i guess some people have common sense and some people don't.



You know what? I am real!! That is why I wouldn't presume to judge the parenting skills of others from the mistakes that their children make!

You on the other hand are talking about something you know nothing about. You have not had children and have not brought children up.

You are the one who needs to get real in the real world ... and it doesn't always match what we would like it to be ...
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Sep 2, 2008 11:51 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
princess49503
princess49503princess49503grand rapids, Michigan USA18 Threads 1 Polls 1,485 Posts
Sommerauer71: No, that is wrong Princess.



Getting pregnant before you finish high school is wrong.
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Sep 2, 2008 11:56 AM CST McCains VP choice has 17 y/o pregnant unwedded daughter... So What!
vonney
vonneyvonneyDublin, Ireland24 Threads 6,371 Posts
princess49503: Getting pregnant before you finish high school is wrong.


Ah no it is an error in judgement or a mistake but we all make them
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