--- Recession (30)

Sep 4, 2008 2:04 PM CST --- Recession
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
--- what does it mean for you
Sep 4, 2008 4:22 PM CST --- Recession
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
CuspofMagic: --- what does it mean for you


Laying off people, leaving the country dunno
Sep 4, 2008 8:36 PM CST --- Recession
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
mike69spain: Laying off people, leaving the country


-yes- widespread unemployment does tend to lead for an exodus seeking warmer climes
Sep 5, 2008 2:38 AM CST --- Recession
CuspofMagic: -yes- widespread unemployment does tend to lead for an exodus seeking warmer climes


in warmer climates things tend to get worse somehow..
Sep 5, 2008 2:39 AM CST --- Recession
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
dragonfly88: in warmer climates things tend to get worse somehow..



How so Dragon?
Sep 5, 2008 2:43 AM CST --- Recession
Sommerauer71: How so Dragon?


in warmer climates, people tend to be a bit lazier than in colder climates. I think it's because it's too hot to work and in colder climates, you either work and do something or your freeze.

spain has the "mañana, mañana (tomorrow, tomorrow) attitude and instead of getting up and doing something about it, they just sit down and complain.

I know complaining is good for the soul (it's good for the heart - no heart attacks-) but if it's not accompanied by action then nothing goes forwards.
Sep 5, 2008 2:49 AM CST --- Recession
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
dragonfly88: in warmer climates, people tend to be a bit lazier than in colder climates. I think it's because it's too hot to work and in colder climates, you either work and do something or your freeze.

spain has the "mañana, mañana (tomorrow, tomorrow) attitude and instead of getting up and doing something about it, they just sit down and complain.

I know complaining is good for the soul (it's good for the heart - no heart attacks-) but if it's not accompanied by action then nothing goes forwards.



I see, thank you, yes the Spanish are laid back as the Italians are, in fact I think alot of Europe is.

But I agree, in colder climates, and whilst it is hot here, people do work more in the winter, because the winters are so long.

And it does get cold here, we had snow until end of April here, which I found tough, not being used to much snow in the UK, I did find it hard, but then within a week it is hot sunshine.

Short, hot summers and cold long winters.

I think one more year here and then somewhere warm.

Recession, I do not think the UK is in one, I think it will be anytime soon.

The last recession early 90's my mortgage tripled overnight and I had to get two extra jobs to support that.

I was terrified being 23 and a small child and a husband who had no idea what the word meant never mind the impact.rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 5, 2008 2:52 AM CST --- Recession
Sommerauer71: I see, thank you, yes the Spanish are laid back as the Italians are, in fact I think alot of Europe is.

But I agree, in colder climates, and whilst it is hot here, people do work more in the winter, because the winters are so long.

And it does get cold here, we had snow until end of April here, which I found tough, not being used to much snow in the UK, I did find it hard, but then within a week it is hot sunshine.

Short, hot summers and cold long winters.

I think one more year here and then somewhere warm.

Recession, I do not think the UK is in one, I think it will be anytime soon.

The last recession early 90's my mortgage tripled overnight and I had to get two extra jobs to support that.

I was terrified being 23 and a small child and a husband who had no idea what the word meant never mind the impact.



scary.....

got to go now...

hug
Sep 5, 2008 3:21 AM CST --- Recession
phoenix
phoenixphoenixparis, Ile-de-France France81 Threads 4 Polls 3,669 Posts
CuspofMagic: --- what does it mean for you


Not a lot cups, really not a lot. Except you can makes loads of money. Best time to invest is during a recession. Then when the times are good, you take the cream from the top before the tax may gets his grubby paws on it...<--serious
Sep 5, 2008 3:23 AM CST --- Recession
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
dragonfly88: in warmer climates things tend to get worse somehow..


mmmh--- Down here a lot of people tend to move up to Queensland
Sep 5, 2008 3:27 AM CST --- Recession
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
phoenix: Not a lot cups, really not a lot. Except you can makes loads of money. Best time to invest is during a recession. Then when the times are good, you take the cream from the top before the tax may gets his grubby paws on it...<--serious


yep- that is if yer cashed up- unfortunately younger people have been encouraged into housing and have mortgages to service as Sommer has mentioned of 89/90
Sep 5, 2008 3:31 AM CST --- Recession
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
"Recession, I do not think the UK is in one, I think it will be anytime soon. "

The International News down here is reporting that the UK has already had two consecutive quarters of negative growth ,so I suppose they are in one the likely hood is that Europe may soon follow suit
Sep 5, 2008 10:32 AM CST --- Recession
phoenix
phoenixphoenixparis, Ile-de-France France81 Threads 4 Polls 3,669 Posts
CuspofMagic: "Recession, I do not think the UK is in one, I think it will be anytime soon. "

The International News down here is reporting that the UK has already had two consecutive quarters of negative growth ,so I suppose they are in one the likely hood is that Europe may soon follow suit


Hi cups,

I've been following the credit crunch and how it will affect the Uk for the past 6mts. And nearly all economic forcasters or those who work in the futures market predict two things: The credit crunch will be short lived and the effects will not be evenly spread through out the Uk.

In Ireland for a while the Celtic Tiger helped make the Emerald Isle one of the strongest ecomonies in the world with investment coming in from the four corners of the globe. This led to over inflated house prices, which has seen some people fall into the negetaive equity trap.
House prices today are falling but only to a more relastic level..

As for the North of Ireland, it should see of the looming recession, mainly due to several investment conferences at the start of the year where many millions of dollars have been either promised of already put in place..

If the rest of the Uk slip in to the red that blame can only be laid at New Labours policies of spend, spend,spend. When Maggie left office in 1989 and Johnny Boy Major took the reins ( Mr. lets get back to basic's, which he did with Edwina), the Uk was sitting on a surplus of 50/60 Billion. Also a very healthy gold reserve. And Tony, Gorden, Allister (and all his spin docters) squandered it. Evening selling off the gold, when it was 250/300 oz. Today gold is somewhere 700/800 greenback an oz.

Just depends on your buisness plan..1+1=2..Some people think its 1+1=3..

My two bits...beer
Sep 5, 2008 4:23 PM CST --- Recession
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
CuspofMagic: -yes- widespread unemployment does tend to lead for an exodus seeking warmer climes


Maybe they do, while I am heading for a slightly colder climate laugh

I am going where the boom is, and that is not here.
Sep 5, 2008 10:29 PM CST --- Recession
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
phoenix: Hi cups,

I've been following the credit crunch and how it will affect the Uk for the past 6mts. And nearly all economic forcasters or those who work in the futures market predict two things: The credit crunch will be short lived and the effects will not be evenly spread through out the Uk.

In Ireland for a while the Celtic Tiger helped make the Emerald Isle one of the strongest ecomonies in the world with investment coming in from the four corners of the globe. This led to over inflated house prices, which has seen some people fall into the negetaive equity trap.
House prices today are falling but only to a more relastic level..

As for the North of Ireland, it should see of the looming recession, mainly due to several investment conferences at the start of the year where many millions of dollars have been either promised of already put in place..

If the rest of the Uk slip in to the red that blame can only be laid at New Labours policies of spend, spend,spend. When Maggie left office in 1989 and Johnny Boy Major took the reins ( Mr. lets get back to basic's, which he did with Edwina), the Uk was sitting on a surplus of 50/60 Billion. Also a very healthy gold reserve. And Tony, Gorden, Allister (and all his spin docters) squandered it. Evening selling off the gold, when it was 250/300 oz. Today gold is somewhere 700/800 greenback an oz.

Just depends on your buisness plan..1+1=2..Some people think its 1+1=3..

My two bits...


--- thumbs up --- I'm keeping my eyes on the climbing unemployment figures together with declining economic growth---
Sep 5, 2008 10:53 PM CST --- Recession
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
mike69spain: Maybe they do, while I am heading for a slightly colder climate

I am going where the boom is, and that is not here.



mmmmh - Scandinavia yay
Sep 6, 2008 12:19 AM CST --- Recession
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
phoenix: Not a lot cups, really not a lot. Except you can makes loads of money. Best time to invest is during a recession. Then when the times are good, you take the cream from the top before the tax may gets his grubby paws on it...<--serious


I agree. In a recession those with lots of capital can make a 'killing'....... for example, shares in banks are now 'cheap' by historic standards and somebody with spare money might think that this sector is undervalued and a good medium term investment.

I despise banks sincerely - they lied and lied last time we had a property collapse in the UK and 'promised' they would only lend responsibly in the future.... but it pays them to follow the herd instinct and make good paper profits by lending foolishly (e.g. lending somebody five times their self-declared [often false] annual earnings - so that some guy earning 10k per annum could pretend he was earning 20k per annum and borrow 100k which was obviously going to wipe him out with just a couple of percentage points increase in interest rates - remember if interest rates were say 5% and went up to 6% it's an actual increase of 20% NOT 1% in what you have to pay.......)

Once everybody is crowing about how much money they've made on their property it's time to take your profit....... a couple of years ago the average Brit was earning something like £80 per day, but his house was increasing in value by an average of £150 per day....... nothing is for free, and that kind of Mathematics is unsustainable - right?

I had a buyer for my house in the UK at my asking price in June. I decided NOT to sell for personal reasons.

I knew it was financial suicide but I wanted my 'space'..... my house is now back on the market at a price that is 12.5% less than my prospective buyer was happy to pay just three months ago!

I intend selling it now even though it's gone down and shall go down further in value; I believe it'll take at least five years to regain it's former worth, and five years of mortgage payments and related bills would be a waste of money in my present circumstances!

In five years I can easily double the net profit, and hence increase my income - and having a decent income that kicks the crap out of inflation is what counts........ there are too many people who are rich on paper, because of the perceived value of their property, yet (because their income is relatively small), they have to live very frugally. I see zero point in living in a wonderful house that's worth 'loadsa money' if you cannot enjoy a decent lifestyle. Keeping overheads as low as reasonably possible is the key to happiness and being able to afford chocolate whenever you want it!

grin
Sep 6, 2008 12:27 AM CST --- Recession
lisalee1960
lisalee1960lisalee1960st pauls, Majjistral Malta9 Threads 222 Posts
they say uk is heading for the worse recession in 60 yrs,i often want to go there for good,but when i hear that,perhaps better to stay in little malta
Sep 6, 2008 12:43 AM CST --- Recession
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
lisalee1960: they say uk is heading for the worse recession in 60 yrs,i often want to go there for good,but when i hear that,perhaps better to stay in little malta


little malta is great from what Ive seen here --- bye
Sep 6, 2008 4:43 AM CST --- Recession
phoenix
phoenixphoenixparis, Ile-de-France France81 Threads 4 Polls 3,669 Posts
lisalee1960: they say uk is heading for the worse recession in 60 yrs,i often want to go there for good,but when i hear that,perhaps better to stay in little malta


Don't worry isn't go to be that bad...And very short lived. The problem with Blighty today she doesn't produce anything of substance..


Say in malta and play volley ball
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