Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!! ( Archived) (837)

Sep 27, 2008 12:06 AM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: How about the $932m dollars of earmarks that Obama has rung up in the 3 years in the Senate? Yep that was the figure McCain used tonight in the debate, Obama did not deny it.

The total figure for government earmarks to both the Senate and Congress is $30b.....that according to Obama. If so..........
Senator Obama is taking 1/30 of all the earmark funds of both the Senate and Congress........where there are close to 400 combined
Senators and Congressmen.

Do you see anything wrong with that, Dude?

The average Congress or Senator.....has $7.5m in earmarks...that is what is wrong with that


Are Ear marks really that terrible TT?

A good senator does what ever necessary to get the founds needed for certain areas in the country where there is a need for improvements and actually if McCain has not searched for any of those it shows truely that the guy is just too sick with his increadible amount of indifference in my eyes.McCain just thinks in: less taxes for the rich and thats why he is scared of ear marks but his Palin obviously got Ear marks for her stupied bridge to no where did she not?

Ear marks are not for his personal pocket TT and I think Obama should really answer back and naming the master of Ear marks Sarah Palin when McCain maes this again and again

I am sure you will say like, Obama got Ear marks for places so some lobbyists supporting his candidacy more but I am sure you are not right about that.

Getting Ear marks for areas which need more investments is a sign of being good i negotiations and being good in describing the troubled areas..... should senators not working for people?Should all ameircan money being spent on stupied mass killings of human beings in another countries or making stupied guns then?
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Sep 27, 2008 9:34 AM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Are Ear marks really that terrible TT?

A good senator does what ever necessary to get the founds needed for certain areas in the country where there is a need for improvements and actually if McCain has not searched for any of those it shows truely that the guy is just too sick with his increadible amount of indifference in my eyes.McCain just thinks in: less taxes for the rich and thats why he is scared of ear marks but his Palin obviously got Ear marks for her stupied bridge to no where did she not?

Ear marks are not for his personal pocket TT and I think Obama should really answer back and naming the master of Ear marks Sarah Palin when McCain maes this again and again

I am sure you will say like, Obama got Ear marks for places so some lobbyists supporting his candidacy more but I am sure you are not right about that.

Getting Ear marks for areas which need more investments is a sign of being good i negotiations and being good in describing the troubled areas..... should senators not working for people?Should all ameircan money being spent on stupied mass killings of human beings in another countries or making stupied guns then?


Getting earmarks for friends and cronnies, even if their project are of a noble endevour is still out of normal contracting practices and oversight. Has Obama done this? I don't know .......but having earmarks 124 times the average of the other Congressmen........says a lot of how he would run a Adminstration if elected.

Seems to me that Obama has been running his Senate office a lot like
Cheney and Halliburton did their contracting. With that we got no oversight, no competition on the contracts, no transperancy. The main complaints of the DEMs. But here the DEM standard bearer is doing vitrually the samething from his office.

McCain said that under his administration...not only would they cut spending......but when earmark approraitions were sould....he would make them public. All Obama did was to try to link McCain to GWB spending of the last terms. Obama did not tell us how he would address earmarks or the massive spending that he wants to do.

In fact Obama is totally onboard the $700b bailout package of GWB.....you need to ask more?

I may wrong.....but McCain in his 22 year on the Senate has never taken a earmark......if so...the Master of the Washington earmark in
this race is Obama.....and he learned in 3 years how to do it OH so very well.
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Sep 27, 2008 9:36 AM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
I want to know more about the mating habits of elk in Montana. What's a few million $$$. doh
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Sep 27, 2008 9:36 AM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
A CS poll....now that's accuracy. rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 27, 2008 9:44 AM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: CS online poll........ Obama 75 , McCain 43......so what?


FOXX call in poll of 94,000 following the debate

McCain 84%
Obama 16%

grin

So why are the debate poll numbers from the media all over the place?

I have a theory. That when media orders a poll....often they will specify the location where that polls is taken. Follow me a little.....

I am NBC and a liberal media with bias to Obama/Biden. I want poll numbers that support them. I give a request to a polling firm.....do a poll of the Presidential campaign and tell me who is ahead....I want you to poll in Brentwood, CA, Watts, CA, Bronx, NY etc......which is easy enough to do by zip code and telephone prefix.

Do you get a poll that is aschewed or one that is accurate? If media is telling the pollster where to conduct the polls in this race, you are getting aschewed data.....simply by the location of where the poll is taken.
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Sep 27, 2008 3:50 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Getting earmarks for friends and cronnies, even if their project are of a noble endevour is still out of normal contracting practices and oversight. Has Obama done this? I don't know .......but having earmarks 124 times the average of the other Congressmen........says a lot of how he would run a Adminstration if elected.

Seems to me that Obama has been running his Senate office a lot like
Cheney and Halliburton did their contracting. With that we got no oversight, no competition on the contracts, no transperancy. The main complaints of the DEMs. But here the DEM standard bearer is doing vitrually the samething from his office.

McCain said that under his administration...not only would they cut spending......but when earmark approraitions were sould....he would make them public. All Obama did was to try to link McCain to GWB spending of the last terms. Obama did not tell us how he would address earmarks or the massive spending that he wants to do.

In fact Obama is totally onboard the $700b bailout package of GWB.....you need to ask more?

I may wrong.....but McCain in his 22 year on the Senate has never taken a earmark......if so...the Master of the Washington earmark in
this race is Obama.....and he learned in 3 years how to do it OH so very well.


What does it take to make the senate accepting Ear marks for a certain area TT?

Good negotiation skills and Well documented reasons for the rist part and any body who listening to McCain now or in past can hear how poor this guys communcation skills is any way!

How could a guy like MCCain Ever aproving Ear makrs any way? There is a need for voting every single time an Ear mark is proposed, and actually the process is rather complicated and not easy to make the majority to vote for any way!

So this might have to be some thing like .... Obama knew he is there to doing his part making lives better and easier for americans and he fought to get propper Ear marks for areas who needed help from the governemnt and this McCain dude.... Well he was there just to make sure no rich guys paying more in Taxes !

I do certainly not think there is a need for being a professor to notice the fact I name TT!
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Sep 27, 2008 3:52 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
3 different Obamanista's acknowledged last nite on tv that McCain won. The Chosen One must have forgot to tell them to lie. rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 27, 2008 3:55 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
House Republicans are trying to put limits on the Bush/Pelosi agreement. God bless them....no way the government should be able to spend 700 billion dollars in 1 day. applause applause applause
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Sep 27, 2008 3:57 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Hot_Single_Dude: Maybe Hastings is jeleous about Palin because she has stolen more than a 100 tousands dollars from americans while claiming she was at work....... and still she wants to become America,s number two? I have heard evens stealing a tousand dollers from government founds will send one to jail, specially when we are talking about a person who has been a governer or any person on major official positions!
thumbs down thumbs down thumbs down barf barf barf Your name Ariana Huffington?barf
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Sep 27, 2008 4:10 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Conrad73: You're the Jerk that is constantly talking os Fight,Fighting and War


Real politichal battles are not Cousy and Nice Conrad! Never Ever give any credit to your oponent!

Just think about your self dude..... Have you Ever creditted me for any thing during these threads I have made in here since december last year? EVER????????

I have my way of politichal beleifs and you have yours and the two of us are far away from each other concidering what we think is right or wrond and thats why you never credit me or I never credit you as well! If you go "Weak" on your beleifs then you have not much left and the same with me as well!

You and I we are in a kind of "war" against each other as well Conrad dude..... Welcome to the only way real politichal battles should be fought Conrad tongue

Actually you are a Jurk as well.... a very Nasty Jurk uh oh
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Sep 27, 2008 4:11 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
House Republican, Mike Pence, is insisting that ACORN (basically a community organizing left wing group) not get it's slimey fingers on any of the 700 Billion!

applause cheering applause
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Sep 27, 2008 4:12 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Indyfella: House Republican, Mike Pence, is insisting that ACORN (basically a community organizing left wing group) not get it's slimey fingers on any of the 700 Billion!



Mike's a HOOSIER! applause applause applause
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Sep 27, 2008 4:15 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Hot_Single_Dude: And you are a poor educated retired junk yard worker who claim you are an engineer with enourmous amount of knowledge about world politics and environment and military and psychology and any thing esle Conrad who even wears a long bear looking like an old tired talibanee
Inmate!!!!rolling on the floor laughing tongue
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Sep 27, 2008 4:16 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: And you are a poor educated retired junk yard worker who claim you are an engineer with enourmous amount of knowledge about world politics and environment and military and psychology and any thing esle Conrad who even wears a long bear looking like an old tired talibanee



And if he were.........., on a 10 scale...he'd be 9 better than you. rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 27, 2008 4:20 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Hot_Single_Dude: And you are a poor educated retired junk yard worker who claim you are an engineer with enourmous amount of knowledge about world politics and environment and military and psychology and any thing esle Conrad who even wears a long bear looking like an old tired talibanee
Sunshine,how come you always pull that Particular Chain????rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 27, 2008 4:22 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Indyfella: And if he were.........., on a 10 scale...he'd be 9 better than you.


Your point fo view for sure Indyfella.... Of course in your world a Conrad who barfs on any thing which is against his amount of knowledge and beleifs is a professor! Actually both you and Conrad are the "professors" of republican endorsing policies, and mainly becuase of that....... really truely a disater if your guys winning one more time moping
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Sep 27, 2008 4:24 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Your point fo view for sure Indyfella.... Of course in your world a Conrad who barfs on any thing which is against his amount of knowledge and beleifs is a professor! Actually both you and Conrad are the "professors" of republican endorsing policies, and mainly becuase of that....... really truely a disater if your guys winning one more time



After Osama looking so weak last night... I think McCain has it in the bag. applause
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Sep 27, 2008 4:25 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Hot_Single_Dude: Your point fo view for sure Indyfella.... Of course in your world a Conrad who barfs on any thing which is against his amount of knowledge and beleifs is a professor! Actually both you and Conrad are the "professors" of republican endorsing policies, and mainly becuase of that....... really truely a disater if your guys winning one more time

NURSE RATCHED!tongue rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Sep 27, 2008 4:30 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Indyfella: After Osama looking so weak last night... I think McCain has it in the bag.



You are on the monority side on this particular subject but oak.... I know your guys even made poters claiming McCain won already before the debate was over. Lack of confidence .... Not at all Indyfella
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Sep 27, 2008 4:38 PM CST Obama for President.............A clear soloution is prosperity and peace!!!
Hot_Single_Dude: And you are a poor educated retired junk yard worker who claim you are an engineer with enourmous amount of knowledge about world politics and environment and military and psychology and any thing esle Conrad who even wears a long bear looking like an old tired talibanee
Yep Dork,you know all about me!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing jaw drop elephant elephant
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