700 billion dollar rescue bill rjected (129)
Good, I hope the vote stands!!!
and many should go to prison for illegal trade practices.
but for some reason I am smelling another Enron.
Let the ones who became multi millionaire's pay for this mess!!!
The rest us us will recover and rebound after some hard times.
If I can't pay my bills......... who the hell is going to bail me out????[/quote]
I think obama will rescue you....
and many should go to prison for illegal trade practices.
but for some reason I am smelling another Enron.
Let the ones who became multi millionaire's pay for this mess!!!
The rest us us will recover and rebound after some hard times.
If I can't pay my bills......... who the hell is going to bail me out????[/quote]
I think obama will rescue you....
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Indyfella: Notice how Bush, Pelosi, Reid and FRANK want it pushed thru fast!!!!
Now this couldn't have anything to do with the lobbyists.
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Indyfella: Good, I hope the vote stands!!!
and many should go to prison for illegal trade practices.
but for some reason I am smelling another Enron.
Let the ones who became multi millionaire's pay for this mess!!!
The rest us us will recover and rebound after some hard times.
If I can't pay my bills......... who the hell is going to bail me out????[/ quote]I think obama will rescue you....
and many should go to prison for illegal trade practices.
but for some reason I am smelling another Enron.
Let the ones who became multi millionaire's pay for this mess!!!
The rest us us will recover and rebound after some hard times.
If I can't pay my bills......... who the hell is going to bail me out????[/ quote]I think obama will rescue you....
I paid cash (in full) for my home!
I don't need anyones bail out $$$$
I don't run up bills that I can't pay.
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Indyfella: Notice how Bush, Pelosi, Reid and FRANK want it pushed thru fast!!!!
That's a scary thought!!
And ACORN too!!
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rasgumby:
I paid cash (in full) for my home!
I don't need anyones bail out $$$$
I don't run up bills that I can't pay.
I paid cash (in full) for my home!
I don't need anyones bail out $$$$
I don't run up bills that I can't pay.
Good...you'll be able to pay to bail everyone else out.
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Indyfella: Good...you'll be able to pay to bail everyone else out.
Thank God and black and decker for cordless screwdrivers
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Hot_Single_Dude: Of course the bill was rejected!
How can it be possible any plan from George W Bush will be good for any thing?
The form of the Bill shaped by Buhney,s was totaly wrong and based on saving Wall street guys and big capital and making american tax payers paying to save the rich and the super rich.... thats why the Bill was rejected by majority in the House of representatives!
There will be adjustements with benefits for the man on the street, and a new bill will be approved soon.
Never ever ask the guy who robbed you about how you feel, or what you got to do from now on
How can it be possible any plan from George W Bush will be good for any thing?
The form of the Bill shaped by Buhney,s was totaly wrong and based on saving Wall street guys and big capital and making american tax payers paying to save the rich and the super rich.... thats why the Bill was rejected by majority in the House of representatives!
There will be adjustements with benefits for the man on the street, and a new bill will be approved soon.
Never ever ask the guy who robbed you about how you feel, or what you got to do from now on
Probably not too far wrong IMO
Like I said earlier, complacency has turned to calamity.
Bush and many others expected everyone to run with
this and not scrutinise the details, if there were any.
The plan was flawed, but there needs to be a plan.
I think round two will commence shortly and there will
be a bail out.
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Indyfella: Good reason...they're Dems, and it wouldn't necessarily be ceo's; try Waters, Frank and even Franklin Raines. Hannity is playing 2004 comments from the above of how solvent and solid Fannie and Freddie were.... yeah right.
Pelosi's tongue lashing of Bush didn't help right before the vote. Some Republicans voted based on that.
So much for her bringing civility to the Congress.
Pelosi's tongue lashing of Bush didn't help right before the vote. Some Republicans voted based on that.
So much for her bringing civility to the Congress.
That tongue lashing cost them 12 REP vote, I hear. They would have only needed 10? more I think.
They (both sides) are using a crisis for political positioning.
Though I have to admit....the 94 DEM votes opposing it...caught me by surprise...Polosi should have saved the tongue lashing for those DEMs.
They had the numbers there to make it happen. She is majority whip....her job to keep the majority in line. Having 94 vote against it......is a pretty big block.
I also wonder if Barak Obama was on the phone to the 94 trying to get them onboard.
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ttom500: That tongue lashing cost them 12 REP vote, I hear. They would have only needed 10? more I think.
They (both sides) are using a crisis for political positioning.
Though I have to admit....the 94 DEM votes opposing it...caught me by surprise...Polosi should have saved the tongue lashing for those DEMs.
They had the numbers there to make it happen. She is majority whip....her job to keep the majority in line. Having 94 vote against it......is a pretty big block.
I also wonder if Barak Obama was on the phone to the 94 trying to get them onboard.
They (both sides) are using a crisis for political positioning.
Though I have to admit....the 94 DEM votes opposing it...caught me by surprise...Polosi should have saved the tongue lashing for those DEMs.
They had the numbers there to make it happen. She is majority whip....her job to keep the majority in line. Having 94 vote against it......is a pretty big block.
I also wonder if Barak Obama was on the phone to the 94 trying to get them onboard.
He was having a meeting with his 300 advisors.
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rasgumby: Good, I hope the vote stands!!!
and many should go to prison for illegal trade practices.
but for some reason I am smelling another Enron.
Let the ones who became multi millionaire's pay for this mess!!!
The rest us us will recover and rebound after some hard times.
If I can't pay my bills......... who the hell is going to bail me out????
and many should go to prison for illegal trade practices.
but for some reason I am smelling another Enron.
Let the ones who became multi millionaire's pay for this mess!!!
The rest us us will recover and rebound after some hard times.
If I can't pay my bills......... who the hell is going to bail me out????
Ras this is going to bigger than Enron. With Enron.....some lights
went out. This some 1m foreclosures are expected. People moving
out of thier houses.
I am not for the bailout.....but do feel some kind of bridge capitol or restricted credit line should have been made avialalbe while those investigations occurred to find the parties responsilbe.
Why not keep the firms solvent while that happens? Till the mess has been figured out?
The last time the millionaires paid for the mess.......was when the wheel was invented. Ain't going to happen Ras. These guys have thier assets diversified across the world. They lose in the US market or a litigation here......they have protected funds in Carribean, Swiss, or elsewhere.
My advice at this point....contact your congressman....tell them you want a intrimin funding program to keep them solvent till the investigations occurs. It is a compromise for both side still.....will not cost the $700b...and the parties responsible get determined.
At presest with 86% of the Americans saying they oppose the bailout and that has them locked out in providing anything. But if we let it go for a long period of time.....we are commiting economic hari kari.jmo
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Indyfella: He was having a meeting with his 300 advisors.
Invited them over for some hot dogs and burgers, sat around poolside,
Barak....said guys see the pool.....we are about to take a dive in the deep end....with this.
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ttom500: Invited them over for some hot dogs and burgers, sat around poolside,
Barak....said guys see the pool.....we are about to take a dive in the deep end....with this.
Barak....said guys see the pool.....we are about to take a dive in the deep end....with this.
I bet they didn't fix pork chops....
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bodleing: Up to our necks in it Al...over here as well
oh I know, the crisis is just more pronounced and newsworthy in the US, but the world bank and the IMF has its finger in a lot of arses.
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All the DEM leadership in the house voted against the bailout.Except Polosi. DEM leaderhip of committee is made by the majority whip (Polisi). When the Freshmen DEMs saw that leadership was voting against the bailout, was a signal that they could as well...without any reprecussions.
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60% of House Dems voted for the bailout.
66% of House Republicans voted against it.
Dems delivered their promised 140 votes. Pelosi's speech was said to turn off some of the Republicans. So hurt feelings were said to impact the vote. There you go.
Damnit. I said no more political threads, didn't I?
66% of House Republicans voted against it.
Dems delivered their promised 140 votes. Pelosi's speech was said to turn off some of the Republicans. So hurt feelings were said to impact the vote. There you go.
Damnit. I said no more political threads, didn't I?
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rwantin: 60% of House Dems voted for the bailout.
66% of House Republicans voted against it.
Dems delivered their promised 140 votes. Pelosi's speech was said to turn off some of the Republicans. So hurt feelings were said to impact the vote. There you go.
Damnit. I said no more political threads, didn't I?
66% of House Republicans voted against it.
Dems delivered their promised 140 votes. Pelosi's speech was said to turn off some of the Republicans. So hurt feelings were said to impact the vote. There you go.
Damnit. I said no more political threads, didn't I?
hey Robert
The funniest threads lately have been the political threads!!!
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mbcasey: hey Robert
The funniest threads lately have been the political threads!!!
The funniest threads lately have been the political threads!!!
Evening Ken.
Shhhh. I'm not here. 
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rwantin: 60% of House Dems voted for the bailout.
66% of House Republicans voted against it.
Dems delivered their promised 140 votes. Pelosi's speech was said to turn off some of the Republicans. So hurt feelings were said to impact the vote. There you go.
Damnit. I said no more political threads, didn't I?
66% of House Republicans voted against it.
Dems delivered their promised 140 votes. Pelosi's speech was said to turn off some of the Republicans. So hurt feelings were said to impact the vote. There you go.
Damnit. I said no more political threads, didn't I?
If it was a good bill.......all Dems should have backed the Pelosi plan....
They had the votes.
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Indyfella: If it was a good bill.......all Dems should have backed the Pelosi plan.... They had the votes.
I don't claim to know or even understand everything, and to a certain extent, I agree. But certainly, there must have been point(s) of contention. And why would Republicans nay it? No blame on either party, I am just trying to see the (partisan and non-partisan) reasons.
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180 for.... 221 against
What now???
Good, I hope the vote stands!!!
and many should go to prison for illegal trade practices.
but for some reason I am smelling another Enron.
Let the ones who became multi millionaire's pay for this mess!!!
The rest us us will recover and rebound after some hard times.
If I can't pay my bills......... who the hell is going to bail me out????