where would you say is the cheapest and dearest country in the world,in which to live? (101)
Mirodenia: So, there are: romanians (majority), gipsies, hungarians, turks, few bulgarians, moldavians few of them with permanent residence.
What's the situation in Finland?
What's the situation in Finland?
Not to forget some ukrainians, Transylvanian Saxons (less and less, as most of them emmigarated to Germany) and Szeklers.
expat2be: Not to forget some ukrainians, Transylvanian Saxons (less and less, as most of them emmigarated to Germany) and Szeklers.
Thanks.
Who are you?
I catch you, are you ...?
Mirodenia: Thanks.
Who are you?
Who are you?
I'm the one you liked a couple of days ago. So, I thought I could give you a hand now.
expat2be: Not to forget some ukrainians, Transylvanian Saxons (less and less, as most of them emmigarated to Germany) and Szeklers.
And not forgetting the indigenous Sámi ...
Olsojente: And not forgetting the indigenous Sámi ...
Quoted the wrong post... that was in Finland...
Olsojente: And not forgetting the indigenous Sámi ...
Ooooh, yes!
I forgot them. 
we live in a very politically correct world now,but people we are going off the thread
smoky: So ... which is considered best then ...? A wealthy country - where the old folk are given blood-pressure pills and pace-makers, put into expensive institutions ..... small children sent out to carers all day ... and both parents commute to paper-shuffling jobs to pay for their consumerism......and their beautiful empty-all-day-house.......
or...
A rural village where the toothless old folk sit in the sun making baskets or doing bead-work, with naked grandkids playing in the dust, outside their handmade hut,while mama pounds the corn or tills the field, and dad does whatever it is he does ..... drinks home-made beer/goes to work.......?
or...
A rural village where the toothless old folk sit in the sun making baskets or doing bead-work, with naked grandkids playing in the dust, outside their handmade hut,while mama pounds the corn or tills the field, and dad does whatever it is he does ..... drinks home-made beer/goes to work.......?
What's best is to make your money in the first kind, and retire in the latter.
Just don't go to South Africa, and if you do, leave your money where you made it!
Mirodenia: Come here beautiful lady!
We will have a party CS on 23-24-25 of October. Many nice men...
Mike, Sommer, Gussi, belti and me...
Come, come....
Google Romania and this is all.
We will have a party CS on 23-24-25 of October. Many nice men...
Mike, Sommer, Gussi, belti and me...
Come, come....
Google Romania and this is all.
I just saw this. Thanks for the offer, but, maybe another time.
mike69spain: I turn my back for a day and you girls start fighting
Actually, I think her point is this: For a Romanian (not of the Roma people) it is an insult to be called gypsie.
Why?
First, we need to divide the Romer there into three groups, the traditional (lives a very simple life on the road and produce things they sell while they travel from town to town), the "integrated" who is part of ordinary life and then the last, the oppressive group, who are the reason to all that bad feelings Miro has.
And for that group, I sign her note on them being all that (and more...).
Sad but true, this is the same group that has caused Romanians to receive a bad name here in Spain as well as in UK and Italy. No way around it, unfortunatly, these people simply will not fit into what we think of as a society.
The traditional group on the other hand are the "true" gypsies and lives an, in our view, romantic lifestyle on the move. They cause no harm and are accepted everywhere.
My 2 cent.
Actually, I think her point is this: For a Romanian (not of the Roma people) it is an insult to be called gypsie.
Why?
First, we need to divide the Romer there into three groups, the traditional (lives a very simple life on the road and produce things they sell while they travel from town to town), the "integrated" who is part of ordinary life and then the last, the oppressive group, who are the reason to all that bad feelings Miro has.
And for that group, I sign her note on them being all that (and more...).
Sad but true, this is the same group that has caused Romanians to receive a bad name here in Spain as well as in UK and Italy. No way around it, unfortunatly, these people simply will not fit into what we think of as a society.
The traditional group on the other hand are the "true" gypsies and lives an, in our view, romantic lifestyle on the move. They cause no harm and are accepted everywhere.
My 2 cent.
Afternoon Mike.
I am all about true gypsies, they live peacfully, leave everybody else alone, and get on with their lives, their children in the UK, certainly where I live, go to our schools, and are lovely, kind, people.
Good to see you Sir.
Ah, when I am at it:
I am part Tatar (Turkish origin way back in the hsitory).
They were called Tattare in Sweden and generally not very popular around the village, they had dirty children whom no one cared for, they drank and had fights all the nights with knives.
My grandfather told me with pride that we had Tatar origin, yet my mom told me to not tell a living soul about it...
So, why this confusing messages?
The Tatar people had a similar culture to the gypsies, where the man were the "strong" and the woman should care for them selves and stay out of the way if married. They did not feel part of the local culture bad were far away from anything looking like their own.
I think these made a lot of youngsters, men in particular, gang up and create their own rules inducing respect in other peopel the only way they could, with noice and acting oppresive. We see this happen in other areas too, where parents have a hard time cooping and works two three jobs each to manage. The kids gets left at home and we get a similar problem.
Since "our" kids dress the same, we can not see them as a separate group, and it becomes a local society problem. But if they had there own culture and dressed their way, we would immediatly think all of "them" were the same. When in fact, it is just a few of "them" that makes up that image.
So, the problem in Romania is not the Gypsies, the Romer people. The problem is that a group of youngsters has been let to gang up and create their own little world, and this world has grown out of proportions.
I am part Tatar (Turkish origin way back in the hsitory).
They were called Tattare in Sweden and generally not very popular around the village, they had dirty children whom no one cared for, they drank and had fights all the nights with knives.
My grandfather told me with pride that we had Tatar origin, yet my mom told me to not tell a living soul about it...
So, why this confusing messages?
The Tatar people had a similar culture to the gypsies, where the man were the "strong" and the woman should care for them selves and stay out of the way if married. They did not feel part of the local culture bad were far away from anything looking like their own.
I think these made a lot of youngsters, men in particular, gang up and create their own rules inducing respect in other peopel the only way they could, with noice and acting oppresive. We see this happen in other areas too, where parents have a hard time cooping and works two three jobs each to manage. The kids gets left at home and we get a similar problem.
Since "our" kids dress the same, we can not see them as a separate group, and it becomes a local society problem. But if they had there own culture and dressed their way, we would immediatly think all of "them" were the same. When in fact, it is just a few of "them" that makes up that image.
So, the problem in Romania is not the Gypsies, the Romer people. The problem is that a group of youngsters has been let to gang up and create their own little world, and this world has grown out of proportions.
Sommerauer71: Afternoon Mike. I am all about true gypsies, they live peacfully, leave everybody else alone, and get on with their lives, their children in the UK, certainly where I live, go to our schools, and are lovely, kind, people.
Good to see you Sir.
Good to see you Sir.
We all have moments when we envy that freedom, I have many of those of those moments
'll be right back, need to walk the dog.
How are you Sir Mike?
Are you ok?
Are you ok?
mike69spain: We all have moments when we envy that freedom, I have many of those of those moments
'll be right back, need to walk the dog.
'll be right back, need to walk the dog.
I will be gone lovely, but interesting posts you have made there, I will think on them when I am sitting in my office this evening with a hot chocolate trying to work my way through papers...
Enjoy the walk...
Mirodenia: How are you Sir Mike?
Are you ok?
Are you ok?
Hola guapa!
Yes I am, got me a little break this afternoon. Been on duty for too many hours, but so has you I see.
Sommerauer71: Enjoy the walk...
Oh, it was more a dip of the nose outside, we are getting bad weather here and she simply refuse walking then.
Mirodenia: This is a romantic view. Here we have difficult times with them and we don't love them at all, on the opposite.
If you would live here you'll know that is a huge insult to say somebody is a gipsy. Because they still, kill, have no shame, very very nasty people, dirty.
Nothing to admire.
Ok, I understood, thanks. I was sad, I am now ok.
If you would live here you'll know that is a huge insult to say somebody is a gipsy. Because they still, kill, have no shame, very very nasty people, dirty.
Nothing to admire.
Ok, I understood, thanks. I was sad, I am now ok.
Well, I am genuinely sorry you took it as an insult - now that you know it was not meant as an insult you can relax and enjoy yourself - ok?
rusty_knight: Well, I am genuinely sorry you took it as an insult - now that you know it was not meant as an insult you can relax and enjoy yourself - ok?
I am relaxed, thanks.
It was more wasted time than the issue deserve it.
Nothing really important.
mike69spain: I turn my back for a day and you girls start fighting
Actually, I think her point is this: For a Romanian (not of the Roma people) it is an insult to be called gypsie.
Why?
First, we need to divide the Romer there into three groups, the traditional (lives a very simple life on the road and produce things they sell while they travel from town to town), the "integrated" who is part of ordinary life and then the last, the oppressive group, who are the reason to all that bad feelings Miro has.
And for that group, I sign her note on them being all that (and more...).
Sad but true, this is the same group that has caused Romanians to receive a bad name here in Spain as well as in UK and Italy. No way around it, unfortunatly, these people simply will not fit into what we think of as a society.
The traditional group on the other hand are the "true" gypsies and lives an, in our view, romantic lifestyle on the move. They cause no harm and are accepted everywhere.
My 2 cent.
Actually, I think her point is this: For a Romanian (not of the Roma people) it is an insult to be called gypsie.
Why?
First, we need to divide the Romer there into three groups, the traditional (lives a very simple life on the road and produce things they sell while they travel from town to town), the "integrated" who is part of ordinary life and then the last, the oppressive group, who are the reason to all that bad feelings Miro has.
And for that group, I sign her note on them being all that (and more...).
Sad but true, this is the same group that has caused Romanians to receive a bad name here in Spain as well as in UK and Italy. No way around it, unfortunatly, these people simply will not fit into what we think of as a society.
The traditional group on the other hand are the "true" gypsies and lives an, in our view, romantic lifestyle on the move. They cause no harm and are accepted everywhere.
My 2 cent.
Hi mike, not only there but in Germany and Swissland as well, another 2 cents makes 4 cents.
And i sign her note as well, my viggen went missing in cluj never to be seen again ??
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This would be the ideal explanation. And we have some handsome man and they are also good in bed.
Sorry, couldn't stop myself.
So, there are: romanians (majority), gipsies, hungarians, turks, few bulgarians, moldavians few of them with permanent residence.
What's the situation in Finland?
I have dated a Serbian, and he is hot!!! Yes, men from Southeastern Europe are to die for.
Here, we mainly have Finns and Swedish finns. Of course we do have people from other nationalities, with/without permanent residence.
It's colddddd.