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Nov 5, 2008 10:00 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Ambrose2007: Moema is correct. The OP only congratulated "America" and expressed her happiness. That's all she wrote. The rest is interpretation. Perhaps she was thinking all kinds of terribly anti-American things, but there's no evidence for that in the original post.



That's why i asked what she thought ( read my first post).
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Nov 5, 2008 10:01 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
Moema
MoemaMoemaBrasilia, Distrito Federal Brazil45 Threads 3 Polls 730 Posts
lusciousmile: That's why i asked what she thought ( read my first post).


You didn´t ASK, you IMPLIED.
That´s how it all started. Elementary, my dear Watson.wink
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Nov 5, 2008 10:02 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
Ambrose2007: Moema is correct. The OP only congratulated "America" and expressed her happiness. That's all she wrote. The rest is interpretation. Perhaps she was thinking all kinds of terribly anti-American things, but there's no evidence for that in the original post.


I think they way Moema choose to express her "support" was the cause of much of the argument. The OP remained mostly silent.

This is a sensitive subject for many Obama supporters and probably for Obama to as he was attacked with this in an attempt to discredit him and say he was a terrorist supporter or worse.

There are too many Americans who still think this after being brainwashed for many months with this information. One of my fears is that some yahoo will take it in their head to assassinate him for daring to be a "secrete" Muslim and take the presidency away from a "good Christian"

Can you see why this is a rather inflammatory statement now?
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Nov 5, 2008 10:04 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Moema: You didn´t ASK, you IMPLIED.
That´s how it all started. Elementary, my dear Watson.



There's a question mark in my first post. Remember punctuation?


Anything else i said, was my opinion, not an attack.



YOU attacked us.


Don't try to compete with me, english is my national language. yawn
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Nov 5, 2008 10:04 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Skybow: I think they way Moema choose to express her "support" was the cause of much of the argument. The OP remained mostly silent.

This is a sensitive subject for many Obama supporters and probably for Obama to as he was attacked with this in an attempt to discredit him and say he was a terrorist supporter or worse.

There are too many Americans who still think this after being brainwashed for many months with this information. One of my fears is that some yahoo will take it in their head to assassinate him for daring to be a "secrete" Muslim and take the presidency away from a "good Christian"

Can you see why this is a rather inflammatory statement now?


What statement was "inflammatory"? Objectively, there is no such statement in the OP's first post.

However, I can see why someone might be sensitive to the *possibility* that such an endorsement would open a can of worms, given the Muslim controversy surrounding Obama.
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Nov 5, 2008 10:04 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
Ambrose2007: Moema is correct. The OP only congratulated "America" and expressed her happiness. That's all she wrote. The rest is interpretation. Perhaps she was thinking all kinds of terribly anti-American things, but there's no evidence for that in the original post.


wow jeff!!!


I woked up!!


You're right .... confused hate when that happens .... I better go talk to Zilla uh oh



thumbs up I apologize to the OP bowing
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Nov 5, 2008 10:04 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
Metija
MetijaMetijaTavira, Faro Portugal67 Posts
hollysaffron: dear Lusciousmile,under islamic low,if your father isMuslim,so are you.And once muslim,always the muslim.you have to understand that.


That is just doctrine and dogma....and not heeded by people who think for themselves.....my mother is jewish...and the law in judaism is that if your mother is then so are you......i don't consider or feel myself to be jewish nor do i subscribe to any religion, labelling only serves to limit and seperate us ! handshake
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Nov 5, 2008 10:05 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Skybow: I think they way Moema choose to express her "support" was the cause of much of the argument. The OP remained mostly silent.

This is a sensitive subject for many Obama supporters and probably for Obama to as he was attacked with this in an attempt to discredit him and say he was a terrorist supporter or worse.

There are too many Americans who still think this after being brainwashed for many months with this information. One of my fears is that some yahoo will take it in their head to assassinate him for daring to be a "secrete" Muslim and take the presidency away from a "good Christian"

Can you see why this is a rather inflammatory statement now?



I totally understand you. thumbs up
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Nov 5, 2008 10:06 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Metija: That is just doctrine and dogma....and not heeded by people who think for themselves.....my mother is jewish...and the law in judaism is that if your mother is then so are you......i don't consider or feel myself to be jewish nor do i subscribe to any religion, labelling only serves to limit and seperate us !



Apparently, we shouldn't share our views on the thread, and should just clap and leave.


laugh
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Nov 5, 2008 10:06 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Ambrose2007: What statement was "inflammatory"? Objectively, there is no such statement in the OP's first post.

However, I can see why someone might be sensitive to the *possibility* that such an endorsement would open a can of worms, given the Muslim controversy surrounding Obama.



That's the point. thumbs up
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Nov 5, 2008 10:07 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
Moema
MoemaMoemaBrasilia, Distrito Federal Brazil45 Threads 3 Polls 730 Posts
Skybow: I think they way Moema choose to express her "support" was the cause of much of the argument. The OP remained mostly silent.

This is a sensitive subject for many Obama supporters and probably for Obama to as he was attacked with this in an attempt to discredit him and say he was a terrorist supporter or worse.

There are too many Americans who still think this after being brainwashed for many months with this information. One of my fears is that some yahoo will take it in their head to assassinate him for daring to be a "secrete" Muslim and take the presidency away from a "good Christian"

Can you see why this is a rather inflammatory statement now?


Sky, I am an Obama supporter myself. I am concerned as much as you are that there might be a murder attempt. I understand your sensitivity. I expressed my support in the way I know how, which is reasoning, and I do get frustrated when people make assumptions on what´s been said instead of reading and taking the words as they have been put. There´s NOTHING in the lady´s post to make anyone belive she´s provoking. I´m not sensitive, so I could see it. But that´s just the way internet works, I guess.
Anyway, I calm down just as fast as I get mad. Will you take my apologies? Everything you said to me except the last post was also on the basis of reasoning, and I respect that.
handshake
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Nov 5, 2008 10:09 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
BnaturAl: jeff!!! I woked up!!You're right .... hate when that happens .... I better go talk to Zilla
I apologize to the OP


she does however use Allah in the tittle my man... there is enough "open to interpretation" for christians to find ire ... you think?

confused
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Nov 5, 2008 10:11 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
Moema
MoemaMoemaBrasilia, Distrito Federal Brazil45 Threads 3 Polls 730 Posts
lusciousmile: That's the point.


So you admit there´s been sensitivity and that explains your reaction to the original post?
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Nov 5, 2008 10:13 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
Moema
MoemaMoemaBrasilia, Distrito Federal Brazil45 Threads 3 Polls 730 Posts
BnaturAl: she does however use Allah in the tittle my man... there is enough "open to interpretation" for christians to find ire ... you think?


B, if she said the tulips in Queen Elizabeth´s garden are blesed by Allah, would you assume the flowers are Muslim, or the OP considers the flowers Muslim?

See, she´s not implying anything. It was her way of saying GOD BLESS OBAMA, WE´RE HAPPY BECAUSE IT´S GOING TO BE GOOD FOR US. Only she calls God Allah. What´s wrong with that?

dunno
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Nov 5, 2008 10:15 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
shipoker58
shipoker58shipoker58Las Vegas, Nevada USA30 Threads 2,969 Posts
Can't we just say...he was blessed by a higher being and get on with it!!???


Peace Outpeace
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Nov 5, 2008 10:15 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Moema: So you admit there´s been sensitivity and that explains your reaction to the original post?




You have just apologised to Sky, but seem rather anxious to fight with me.


Everyone on this thread has shown senstivity, either because of your posts or the reasoning given by Holy, so why are you aplogising to them?

Wait, don't answer.



I made my point, over and over, now you can either accept it, or move on. Just don't try to control me.
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Nov 5, 2008 10:18 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
BnaturAl: she does however use Allah in the tittle my man... there is enough "open to interpretation" for christians to find ire ... you think?


Agreed - that doubtless implied a certain message to some. We're kind of sensitized right now - in America, at least - to mentions of "Allah" (which is just another name for "God," btw). However, if someone had started a thread with "God Bless Obama" or something equivalent, there would be no controversy here, right?
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Nov 5, 2008 10:18 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
Metija
MetijaMetijaTavira, Faro Portugal67 Posts
Yeah i know...ego's frequently get in the way of discourse....it's not just a net/thread phenomenon, happens in every nook and cranny of daily life.....but if we communicate our views and experiences in a non-confrontational and peaceful way we are often heard wave
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Nov 5, 2008 10:21 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
People are celebrating, including the Op.


idea


OBAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!




Obama wetu ameshinda!!!!


yay yay yay yay yay yay
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Nov 5, 2008 10:21 AM CST the new president is blessed from Allah
Moema
MoemaMoemaBrasilia, Distrito Federal Brazil45 Threads 3 Polls 730 Posts
lusciousmile: You have just apologised to Sky, but seem rather anxious to fight with me.Everyone on this thread has shown senstivity, either because of your posts or the reasoning given by Holy, so why are you aplogising to them ?

Wait, don't answer.
I made my point, over and over, now you can either accept it, or move on. Just don't try to control me.


I apologized to her because I think we´re settled, but I still have one more point to clear out with you. I´m figuring you out. You´re next in line for apologies after we´ve sorted it... I don´t do group apologies, sorry!!!
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