God vs. Science, REALlITY CHECK ( Archived) (88)

""Do those people who call themselves scientists really know what they are talking about?" After all, nobody was around millions of years ago to watch the stirring of the primordial soup, or to see the first fish crawl out onto land, or to see the first winged creature take to the air in powered flight. The story of evolution is a pretty one, but is it supported by the facts?
RNA & DNA
Every living thing, from the most simple virus to the most complex animal, contains in its cells very complex compounds called nucleic acid . There are two forms, called ribonucleic acid (RNA) and deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA). Viruses contain only one or the other, but cells contain both. While RNA controls protein production, DNA is the main component in chromosomes, which provide the blueprint or pattern of heredity. Every time a cell divides into two, the RNA in the cell body and the DNA in the nucleus must be exactly copied, with one copy going with each cell. DNA is an incredibly complex molecule, resembling a long ladder that has been twisted into a spiral. The sides of the ladder are made up of compounds called phosphates and sugars , while the "rungs" are composed of two of four possible bases in all the possible combinations. The exact make-up and order of "rungs" varies from one kind of living thing to another. Each DNA "ladder" has about 20,000 "rungs", and each chromosome contains many thousands of DNA molecules. RNA has a similar structure, but the sugar is different, and one of the four bases is also different.
Since it is the chromosomal DNA (and in some cases RNA) that provides the blueprint for each cell and individual, if any of the thousands of rungs gets damaged, or if different combinations get substituted in the copy, that cell will be defective. Contrary to popular belief, most changes in the DNA structure (mutations) at best weaken, and at worst kill the cell. Only a very few are neutral, and beneficial changes are virtually non-existent. To produce a healthy, fully-functional individual, each copy of DNA and RNA must be identical to the original, down to the last "rung".
THE POINT
That such complexity could arise from "primordial soup" by random-chance chemical reactions is statistically, bio-chemically, and thermodynamically impossible. 1) There are too many connections in a DNA molecule to ever occur by chance, no matter how long you allow. 2) When biochemists have managed to produce simple amino acids in simulated "soup", it was by carefully controlling the conditions; there was nothing "random" or "chance" about the process, and the leap from simple amino acids to a DNA molecule is astronomical . 3) The second law of thermodynamics says that order moves toward disorder, and complex moves toward simple (not the other way around), unless acted upon by a higher force . Lightning bolts (the supposed driving force behind the chemical reactions) are actually great randomizers. The notion that anything as complex as a DNA molecule could arise by accident is therefore a non-scientific absurdity!
IN CONCLUSION
Far from being a logical, scientific, provable explanation of the origin and development of life on earth, Evolution appears to be a belief system held to with as much religious faith as any other creed, with the added difficulty of being contrary to known facts. To believe in evolution, a "scientist" must throw out the scientific method, suspend his common sense, and twist or ignore the facts. That so many continue to do so, and belittle those who dare to challenge their belief, shows the strength of their faith. Far from being open-minded seekers of truth, evolutionists appear to be closed-minded, dogmatic "defenders of the faith". Did life "just happen"? What do you think?"

I agree, and yes that does make perfect sense to me... They also had another GOD vs science thread out awhile back that was pretty good..:) Nice post

Ya Tater, it was full so I needed to start a new thread, and used that title, with an addition, so some of those who do not believe the truth of creation might find some inspiration.

nay they won't, simply because they are as close minded about what they beleive, as we are open minded enough to know the truth... especially when we see the truth each and everyday about what is happening in the world and how it relates to things written in the Bible....Let me tell you this, The cards are falling just as the Bible says they will.... Only someone with their eyes shut cannot see the truth... JMO

ya they only allow stupid people in scientific feilds christians calling the kettle black me thinks.



archeology dude, get a book... not the Jewish Book of Faery Tales, a real archeology book.



That's just stupid, christian mumbo jumbo as usual ...unsupprted by any facts and filled with inconclusive conjecture presented as fact, no stats, no supporting facts ... Only the ignorant would buy that ... well ...and christians of course, but they already buy made up characters they cant prove.

Same question to you sir

Do those people who call themselves christians really know what they are talking about?

after all their isnt one bible character they can show proof of, even using what christians call dumb scientists or archeology. So how do you prove things you cant show proof of? Pretend...thats how


Faeries all over the place...

I'll accept your post to mean you aint going to look beyond the faery tale ....


umm not much of a drinker here Tater ... I begin to see things when I do

People who disbelieve creationism are no more closed minded than those who disbelieve evolution. At our ages, our minds are pretty much made up

I do agree with that ship.