WHO IS OPPOSING PEACE IN GAZA ?? (544)
Is it not true that Israel became a state through a united nations resolution in 1948,UN General Assembly voted to partition Palestine into Jewish and Arab sectors. and through this resolution as voted for by NATO members ,the state of Israel was proclaimed?, where did the Land come from? can some one please tell me, who were the true owners of the land?, why didn't the USA or England make a state of Israel in their own home land? or give them Germany? there is so much hatred between the two factions?, i don't think it has to do with oil, gas, gold, silver, copper, iron diamonds, the wars are because of Land, the "promised land", unfortunately this war will continue long after we are gone.
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solenoid: Is it not true that Israel became a state through a united nations resolution in 1948,UN General Assembly voted to partition Palestine into Jewish and Arab sectors. and through this resolution as voted for by NATO members ,the state of Israel was proclaimed?, where did the Land come from? can some one please tell me, who were the true owners of the land?, why didn't the USA or England make a state of Israel in their own home land? or give them Germany? there is so much hatred between the two factions?, i don't think it has to do with oil, gas, gold, silver, copper, iron diamonds, the wars are because of Land, the "promised land", unfortunately this war will continue long after we are gone.
unfortunately your Q's like the war will continue long till the Zionists Fairy tail reached " Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates" ha ha ha ha
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callibya: its only one side dream in this conflict... these Zionists aren't looking for peace and here is just exp..
"We shall have no peace as long as the whole territory of the Country of Israel will not return under Jewish control. This might sound too hard, but such is the logic of history. The war on the Holy Land has been already fought for four thousand years and the end cannot be seen. A stable peace will come only then, when Israel will return to itself all its historical lands, and will thus control both the Suez and the Ormudz channel. The state will find at last its geostrategic completeness. We must remember that Iraqi oil fields too are located on the Jewish land. This may seem utopia to many now - but an even greater utopia seemed a hundred years ago the revival of the Jewish state...If you want it, this will not not be a fairy tale" Join the US military, die for Israel. --Rabbi Avrom Shmulevic of the Bead Artzein ("For the Homeland") Movement. From the newspaper " Novosty nedely », 06/09/2001
so how you can deal with such ideologies? no choice just to fight..
"We shall have no peace as long as the whole territory of the Country of Israel will not return under Jewish control. This might sound too hard, but such is the logic of history. The war on the Holy Land has been already fought for four thousand years and the end cannot be seen. A stable peace will come only then, when Israel will return to itself all its historical lands, and will thus control both the Suez and the Ormudz channel. The state will find at last its geostrategic completeness. We must remember that Iraqi oil fields too are located on the Jewish land. This may seem utopia to many now - but an even greater utopia seemed a hundred years ago the revival of the Jewish state...If you want it, this will not not be a fairy tale" Join the US military, die for Israel. --Rabbi Avrom Shmulevic of the Bead Artzein ("For the Homeland") Movement. From the newspaper " Novosty nedely », 06/09/2001
so how you can deal with such ideologies? no choice just to fight..
I know such an ideology has come only from the Zionist side and also its program to expand at the expense of the Arabic countries. In fact this is one of the main points some of us have tried to push forward here. Well, that is something many people do not want to see and want to give it the stupid name of conspiration whereas there is nt such a bloody conspiration but the Zionist state pretending to grow following the laws that caused its own inception: mad nationalsim and greed.
And the truth is that such a program is not beyond reality now (and all the events of the past should be reviewed in this perspective and not the opposite as the official press and propaganda teaches while some people in the West are repeating it) and certainly many conditions in the world of today are fitting into this scheme. Maybe the potential threat presented by Iran can be an obstacle, so the next years the US and Israel strategy will deal with an effective way to eliminate that threat. From this perspective it is clear the danger presented by the Zionist monster and its inconditional pawn: the US.
Here when I mentined "both sides" I meant all the deaths caused form both sides. I do not want to sound a hypocritical pacifist (as many here) but the other day I was reading about the assasination of a leader of "Black September" the organisation that directed the attack to the Israeli athletes in Munich. Something that caught my eye was that guy was coming out of a CASINO in Europe when he was gunned down by a Mossad squad. So I asked myself one more time: what was a leader doing there whilst their people were massacred in Palestina? Well, to me it is always the same answer about rotten politicians that make everything worse for their people: I do not think the situation in Palestine is different.
The ideology of Zionism should be rejected and fought, however as I said before I dnot know in which way it is just the human nature behind all this (as a repetition in history of the same thing) and then our only option is to kneel down and ask for forgiveness and mercy to those bullies or just die smash down by fighting hopelessly their inmense power.
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You know what?
They are being used by some european countries and the united states.
Same as the armenian issue.They re claiming that there was a holocaust in 1915.They were only deported.Not burned.
They do not mention before 1915.How they uprise for no reason.
As you mentioned Ben Gurions words.The jews outside Israel do not live the fear of getting killed by a semiprimitive missile.But they have great effect on governments to ceasefire or not.
Just like Armenians out side Armenia.In Armenia people suffer from unemployment and pauverty.But they live in wealth but they cause their fellow citizens in Armenia pain as Turkey refuses to open the border.
I hope that was not complicated and you could understand me a bit.
They are being used by some european countries and the united states.
Same as the armenian issue.They re claiming that there was a holocaust in 1915.They were only deported.Not burned.
They do not mention before 1915.How they uprise for no reason.
As you mentioned Ben Gurions words.The jews outside Israel do not live the fear of getting killed by a semiprimitive missile.But they have great effect on governments to ceasefire or not.
Just like Armenians out side Armenia.In Armenia people suffer from unemployment and pauverty.But they live in wealth but they cause their fellow citizens in Armenia pain as Turkey refuses to open the border.
I hope that was not complicated and you could understand me a bit.
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Last update - 21:13 25/01/2009
Israel to grant legal aid to IDF troops accused of Gaza war crimes
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent and Haaretz Service
Tags: Israel, Gaza, War crimes
The Cabinet declared on Sunday that it would grant aid and support to Israel Defense Forces officers in cases where they face suits for alleged war crimes committed in Gaza.
"Israel will give full support to everyone who operated for it and on behalf of it. The commanders and soldiers who were sent to Gaza need to know that they are safe from various tribunals," Prime Minister Ehud Olmert announced at the opening of the weekly cabinet meeting.
The bill, titled "strengthening the IDF's hand after Operation Cast Lead", was put forward by Defense Minister Ehud Barak, and coordinated by the Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Justice and State Prosecutor.
Israel to grant legal aid to IDF troops accused of Gaza war crimes
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent and Haaretz Service
Tags: Israel, Gaza, War crimes
The Cabinet declared on Sunday that it would grant aid and support to Israel Defense Forces officers in cases where they face suits for alleged war crimes committed in Gaza.
"Israel will give full support to everyone who operated for it and on behalf of it. The commanders and soldiers who were sent to Gaza need to know that they are safe from various tribunals," Prime Minister Ehud Olmert announced at the opening of the weekly cabinet meeting.
The bill, titled "strengthening the IDF's hand after Operation Cast Lead", was put forward by Defense Minister Ehud Barak, and coordinated by the Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Justice and State Prosecutor.
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So first they start a war, give the orders, the logistics and weapons - then they hide behind the soldiers - and then they bail them out ???
Sounds somewhat familiar to me
Sounds somewhat familiar to me
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highfidelity: Last update - 21:13 25/01/2009
Israel to grant legal aid to IDF troops accused of Gaza war crimes
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent and Haaretz Service
Tags: Israel, Gaza, War crimes
The Cabinet declared on Sunday that it would grant aid and support to Israel Defense Forces officers in cases where they face suits for alleged war crimes committed in Gaza.
"Israel will give full support to everyone who operated for it and on behalf of it. The commanders and soldiers who were sent to Gaza need to know that they are safe from various tribunals," Prime Minister Ehud Olmert announced at the opening of the weekly cabinet meeting.
The bill, titled "strengthening the IDF's hand after Operation Cast Lead", was put forward by Defense Minister Ehud Barak, and coordinated by the Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Justice and State Prosecutor.
Israel to grant legal aid to IDF troops accused of Gaza war crimes
By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent and Haaretz Service
Tags: Israel, Gaza, War crimes
The Cabinet declared on Sunday that it would grant aid and support to Israel Defense Forces officers in cases where they face suits for alleged war crimes committed in Gaza.
"Israel will give full support to everyone who operated for it and on behalf of it. The commanders and soldiers who were sent to Gaza need to know that they are safe from various tribunals," Prime Minister Ehud Olmert announced at the opening of the weekly cabinet meeting.
The bill, titled "strengthening the IDF's hand after Operation Cast Lead", was put forward by Defense Minister Ehud Barak, and coordinated by the Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Justice and State Prosecutor.
yes diffidently that wont happen cus they roll the world:
"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial. Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online" no trail for the
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LILLYLADY: Please remember to stop plagerizing and sign your name to your stories. BBC, CNN, NY TIMES, FOX NEWS will not be very happy to have you accuse them of made up dream stories such as you have. You have no credibility when you sign someone else's name to your works. Sorry to have to bust your bubble on this one!
Well, if you can prove any fabrication, you can show it and make a great contribution to your cause. To throw insults and barfing faces as response do not leave a good impression to other people reading all this.
I mean , if some supporters of something are so sure that theirs is the accepted and civilised one and the opposite views are just held by barbaric people then they would behave that way. Very arrogant and mindless. I hope that is not your case. I have found the Journals quoted by Callibya in a few libraries´catalogues and I will read them at certain point in time. AS for the other quotes I have to check not because I particularly doubt about his report but just because I always check.
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Antjo39: Well, if you can prove any fabrication, you can show it and make a great contribution to your cause. To throw insults and barfing faces as response do not leave a good impression to other people reading all this.
I mean , if some supporters of something are so sure that theirs is the accepted and civilised one and the opposite views are just held by barbaric people then they would behave that way. Very arrogant and mindless. I hope that is not your case. I have found the Journals quoted by Callibya in a few libraries´catalogues and I will read them at certain point in time. AS for the other quotes I have to check not because I particularly doubt about his report but just because I always check.
I mean , if some supporters of something are so sure that theirs is the accepted and civilised one and the opposite views are just held by barbaric people then they would behave that way. Very arrogant and mindless. I hope that is not your case. I have found the Journals quoted by Callibya in a few libraries´catalogues and I will read them at certain point in time. AS for the other quotes I have to check not because I particularly doubt about his report but just because I always check.
They are sick of Zionists disease so do not blame them:
give you exp of another angle:
Shaul Mofaz, the Israeli Transportation Minister, stated Friday that Israel should reinstate a policy of massive extrajudicial assassinations in the occupied Palestinian Territories, much like the policy under former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.
Mofaz made the statement in an interview with Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv.
While extrajudicial executions of Palestinians have not ended under the Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, there are not as many as there were under Ariel Sharon, who was Prime Minister from 2000 – 2006 until he fell into a coma.
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Well,this is truly the Thread where the Losers get to write thew History.
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Antjo39: Well, if you can prove any fabrication, you can show it and make a great contribution to your cause. To throw insults and barfing faces as response do not leave a good impression to other people reading all this.
I mean , if some supporters of something are so sure that theirs is the accepted and civilised one and the opposite views are just held by barbaric people then they would behave that way. Very arrogant and mindless. I hope that is not your case. I have found the Journals quoted by Callibya in a few libraries´catalogues and I will read them at certain point in time. AS for the other quotes I have to check not because I particularly doubt about his report but just because I always check.
I mean , if some supporters of something are so sure that theirs is the accepted and civilised one and the opposite views are just held by barbaric people then they would behave that way. Very arrogant and mindless. I hope that is not your case. I have found the Journals quoted by Callibya in a few libraries´catalogues and I will read them at certain point in time. AS for the other quotes I have to check not because I particularly doubt about his report but just because I always check.
It's his made up dream story that he posted here that he's trying to say is all over BBC,CNN,NY TIMES, FOX NEWS and is calling it a fact to the CS forum readers. If the dream story isn't fabricated, then it is up to him to show us all where that dream story came out on those stations. If he can't prove exactly where, then the story is a fake and that's all it is. He stated it as a fact so he has to prove it's validity. And blogs are not acceptable as proof either. Fair is fair!! And if it's a lie...then he's busted!!
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Me personally dont hate JEWS because we were not raised this way in Turkiye.
I remember reporters on national tv mentioning hamas a terrorist organisation around 1988.
But see some Jews take it personal.Like Mrs. liliylady here.
So angry of my words about the Israeli army but trying to get revenge from me in another forum topic by misguiding my words about my religious book and trying to put me on the dartboard.
Narrow minded.
I remember reporters on national tv mentioning hamas a terrorist organisation around 1988.
But see some Jews take it personal.Like Mrs. liliylady here.
So angry of my words about the Israeli army but trying to get revenge from me in another forum topic by misguiding my words about my religious book and trying to put me on the dartboard.
Narrow minded.
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CuspofMagic: this conflict I beleive is a smokescreen, precursory to the announcement of a US withdrawl from Iraq . There is also unfinished business in Iran
Certainly Gaza is a smokescreen as you say.
All regional conflicts are smokescreens nowadays.
The only real issue is the rising globalist order.
But I don't think the US is about to withdraw from Iraq just yet.
The globalists spent trillions and trashed the US economy in order to secure control of mideast and Caspian Sea oil.
They're not going to ever turn those oilfields back over to the locals.
The US won't leave until a globalist military presence is in place to control the oil once and for all.
And "bringing peace to Palestine" would be a more attractive and acceptable way of introducing the new global military force, rather than "controlling the world's resources".
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So herding thrity people into a building and then calling in an artillary strike is looking for military targets.
There is no point in engaging in a debate with you mate, yu are not interested in facts, just shoring up your prejudice.
laterz
There is no point in engaging in a debate with you mate, yu are not interested in facts, just shoring up your prejudice.
laterz
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simiain: So herding thrity people into a building and then calling in an artillary strike is looking for military targets.There is no point in engaging in a debate with you mate, yu are not interested in facts, just shoring up your prejudice.
laterz
laterz
You know what there are some nations who has mercy and some not.I remembere when i was a kid .i saw two Israeli soldiers breaking the arms of a palestinian probably with a brick.
Exactly,twisting the arms and hitting with a brick to the elbows of the guy,taken to hidden cam.
No human deserves that,and who does that hasnt got a piece of human inside.
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Yep,one Bunch of sorry Losers in this Thread.A Bushel of Wannabes.
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Conrad73: Yep,one Bunch of sorry Losers in this Thread.A Bushel of Wannabes.
Again ? this is realy all you can contribute ??? for the 3rd time ???
That is all you can..
realy is´not much of an intelligent output from your side to classify yourself a valued poster so far... after a while one starts to think - as this sort of statements are typically made by people - who feel continuously a need to make others smaller - like calling them Losers - to feel more important - but they are considered of poor social skills - combined with low self esteem and are the Losers themselfs...
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"Value of agricultural production from main groups of crops in the season 1944-1945, distinguishing between Arab and Jewish cultivation"
:::::::::::::::Jewish ::::::::::::::::: Arab
(Palestine pounds)
Grains............497.048 ::::::: 4,403,409
Veg.bles......1,745,870 ::::::: 5,113,553
Fodder............951,178 ::::::::: 156,847
Fruits..........1,379,620 ::::::: 3,139,374
Olives.............53,235 :::::::: 3,320,320
Melons.............83,975 ::::::::: 969,630
TOTALS........4,710,926 ::::::17,103,133
It would be interesting to see last years report - someone could make an effort to find it please - I have to go for now