WHO IS OPPOSING PEACE IN GAZA ?? (544)
this conflict I beleive is a smokescreen, precursory to the announcement of a US withdrawl from Iraq . There is also unfinished business in Iran
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CuspofMagic: this conflict I beleive is a smokescreen, precursory to the announcement of a US withdrawl from Iraq . There is also unfinished business in Iran
The last war was about oil not weapons of mass destruction, this one is about natural gas, cheaper to steal it than buy it.
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CuspofMagic: this conflict I beleive is a smokescreen, precursory to the announcement of a US withdrawl from Iraq . There is also unfinished business in Iran
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I think what needs to happen is that the United States and Israel have to join the rest of the international community, have to abide by international law.
I don’t think international law should be trivialized. That is a worlds serious issue.
If Israel is not accepting international law, it should be called into account, just like any other state in the world. POINT
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Very long time no see!!!Great to see you back, Hi-fi!
I do not know what will happen now. Surely it is a turning point for many matters around the world.
We really do not know what Mr. Obama would do, but with the same "think tank" from CFR running things, they will most likely carry on as usual. The plans have already been drawn up and handed to Mr. Obama. Will he follow his orders?
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highfidelity: More (PHOSPHORUS OR WHATS NEXT) ??? HOW MUCH More SMOKE ON THE SRCEEN ???
I think what needs to happen is that the United States and Israel have to join the rest of the international community, have to abide by international law.
I don’t think international law should be trivialized. That is a worlds serious issue.
If Israel is not accepting international law, it should be called into account, just like any other state in the world. POINT
I think what needs to happen is that the United States and Israel have to join the rest of the international community, have to abide by international law.
I don’t think international law should be trivialized. That is a worlds serious issue.
If Israel is not accepting international law, it should be called into account, just like any other state in the world. POINT
Yes, hi-fi, the U.S. and Israel should be accountable, just as all of the other nations are. Enough bullying!!! Get a rope!!!
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highfidelity: More (PHOSPHORUS OR WHATS NEXT) ??? HOW MUCH More SMOKE ON THE SRCEEN ???
I think what needs to happen is that the United States and Israel have to join the rest of the international community, have to abide by international law.
I don’t think international law should be trivialized. That is a worlds serious issue.
If Israel is not accepting international law, it should be called into account, just like any other state in the world. POINT
I think what needs to happen is that the United States and Israel have to join the rest of the international community, have to abide by international law.
I don’t think international law should be trivialized. That is a worlds serious issue.
If Israel is not accepting international law, it should be called into account, just like any other state in the world. POINT
HF I totally agree--- as you have mentioned International law should be adhered to the only way to resolve "issues' is by negotiation /diplomacy-according to news sources the legalities will be raised in this weeks UN General assembly.
But as you know from past conflicts ie russia/georgia" 'the occupier/aggressor holds the cards and by the time negotiations/ diplomacy and various other conduits are exhasted the aim/s of the aggessor may be achieved
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PS --- Ive always wondered - why the UN is based in the US and not a neutral country---
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One that isnt the Banker to the World --- ie 
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The discovery of gas in Gaza has once again made me question the motives behind Israel.
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So Hamas says the devil made us do it.
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highfidelity: Israel broke the ceasefire by going into the Gaza and killing six or seven Palestinian militants.You can find it on the Israeli website, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website writes it early.
At that point—and now I’m quoting the official Israeli website—Hamas retaliated or, in retaliation for the Israeli attack, then launched the missiles......
"According to Ha’aretz, Defense Minister Barak began plans for this invasion before the ceasefire even began.
The second main reason for the attack is because Hamas was signaling that it wanted a diplomatic settlement of the conflict along the June 1967 border.
That is to say, Hamas was signaling they had joined the international consensus, they had joined most of the international community, overwhelmingly the international community, in seeking a diplomatic settlement. And at that point, Israel was faced with what Israelis call a Palestinian peace offensive. And in order to defeat the peace offensive, they sought to dismantle Hamas.
Can it rule in Gaza if Israel maintains a blockade and prevents economic activity among the Palestinians. The blockade, incidentally, was implemented before Hamas came to power. The blockade doesn’t even have anything to do with Hamas. The blockade came to—there were Americans who were sent over, in particular James Wolfensohn, to try to break the blockade after Israel redeployed its troops in Gaza.
Mr. Obama has to level with the American people. He has to be honest about what is the main obstacle to resolving the conflict. It’s not Palestinian rejectionism. It’s the refusal of Israel, backed by the United States government, to abide by international law, to abide by the opinion of the international community.
And the main challenge for all of us is to see through the lies.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW ???
At that point—and now I’m quoting the official Israeli website—Hamas retaliated or, in retaliation for the Israeli attack, then launched the missiles......
"According to Ha’aretz, Defense Minister Barak began plans for this invasion before the ceasefire even began.
The second main reason for the attack is because Hamas was signaling that it wanted a diplomatic settlement of the conflict along the June 1967 border.
That is to say, Hamas was signaling they had joined the international consensus, they had joined most of the international community, overwhelmingly the international community, in seeking a diplomatic settlement. And at that point, Israel was faced with what Israelis call a Palestinian peace offensive. And in order to defeat the peace offensive, they sought to dismantle Hamas.
Can it rule in Gaza if Israel maintains a blockade and prevents economic activity among the Palestinians. The blockade, incidentally, was implemented before Hamas came to power. The blockade doesn’t even have anything to do with Hamas. The blockade came to—there were Americans who were sent over, in particular James Wolfensohn, to try to break the blockade after Israel redeployed its troops in Gaza.
Mr. Obama has to level with the American people. He has to be honest about what is the main obstacle to resolving the conflict. It’s not Palestinian rejectionism. It’s the refusal of Israel, backed by the United States government, to abide by international law, to abide by the opinion of the international community.
And the main challenge for all of us is to see through the lies.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW ???
Hopefully Barak will mind his own business and let Israel clean up the mess.
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CuspofMagic: PS --- Ive always wondered - why the UN is based in the US and not a neutral country---
I'd love to see the UN move to Russia...anywhere but here.
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Indyfella: I'd love to see the UN move to Russia...anywhere but here.
Good idea...and you have no problem with the Communist party moving there, do you? I mean all that McCarthy era was just the US being rebellious........now where is my Little Red Book
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patrickthomas: Good idea...and you have no problem with the Communist party moving there, do you? I mean all that McCarthy era was just the US being rebellious........now where is my Little Red Book
Hell, the communist party runs the UN, doesn't it?
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Indyfella: Hell, the communist party runs the UN, doesn't it?
Hang on I'll see what the little Red Book says.............................?
What do you think of the current situation With Israel and Hamas?
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patrickthomas: Hang on I'll see what the little Red Book says.............................?
What do you think of the current situation With Israel and Hamas?
What do you think of the current situation With Israel and Hamas?
I think my early post gives my view.
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Indyfella: Hopefully Barak will mind his own business and let Israel clean up the mess.
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highfidelity: More (PHOSPHORUS OR WHATS NEXT) ??? HOW MUCH More SMOKE ON THE SRCEEN ???
I think what needs to happen is that the United States and Israel have to join the rest of the international community, have to abide by international law.
I don’t think international law should be trivialized. That is a worlds serious issue.
If Israel is not accepting international law, it should be called into account, just like any other state in the world. POINT
I think what needs to happen is that the United States and Israel have to join the rest of the international community, have to abide by international law.
I don’t think international law should be trivialized. That is a worlds serious issue.
If Israel is not accepting international law, it should be called into account, just like any other state in the world. POINT
Israel is not accepting the international law or the security council decisions ( which was held last week anf they decided to stop the war against Gaza , Livni said we will not , and will keep on doing what they find it right and will continue the war ) , plus please not that Israel is using forbidden weapon which are already mentioned in the international treaties , plus Israel is attacking the UN buidlings which is against the international law of war , plus Israel is attacking Doctors and abulances and nurnses which is also against the international law, plus Israel is attacking journailists / Media members , which is also against the law ,
israel broke all the laws of this planets , becuase they are the choosen nations .... crap !!
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The character of Israel is at stake and they are failing badly.
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At that point—and now I’m quoting the official Israeli website—Hamas retaliated or, in retaliation for the Israeli attack, then launched the missiles......
"According to Ha’aretz, Defense Minister Barak began plans for this invasion before the ceasefire even began.
The second main reason for the attack is because Hamas was signaling that it wanted a diplomatic settlement of the conflict along the June 1967 border.
That is to say, Hamas was signaling they had joined the international consensus, they had joined most of the international community, overwhelmingly the international community, in seeking a diplomatic settlement. And at that point, Israel was faced with what Israelis call a Palestinian peace offensive. And in order to defeat the peace offensive, they sought to dismantle Hamas.
Can it rule in Gaza if Israel maintains a blockade and prevents economic activity among the Palestinians. The blockade, incidentally, was implemented before Hamas came to power. The blockade doesn’t even have anything to do with Hamas. The blockade came to—there were Americans who were sent over, in particular James Wolfensohn, to try to break the blockade after Israel redeployed its troops in Gaza.
Mr. Obama has to level with the American people. He has to be honest about what is the main obstacle to resolving the conflict. It’s not Palestinian rejectionism. It’s the refusal of Israel, backed by the United States government, to abide by international law, to abide by the opinion of the international community.
And the main challenge for all of us is to see through the lies.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW ???