Would you date a man on steroids? ( Archived) (63)

Jan 19, 2009 8:57 PM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
Ambrose2007: I've been wondering if you use steriods, Wall. No offense, but from the weights you've mentioned, I assumed you have/did.

If you used steroids (and never have), I would expect that you could add 200 lbs. to your squat, with similar gains in other lifts. If true, would that tempt you?


To answer your question honestly,.....NO.

I want to be the best that I CAN BE NATURAL.wave
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Jan 19, 2009 10:45 PM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
druidess6308: Not according to your profile, Ambrose. It has you as 44.


Right. 44 is my honorary age. With a little sleuthing, you probably can figure out why I adopted it...smitten love (that's a clue).

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Jan 19, 2009 10:47 PM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Ambrose2007: I agree there's more to age-related appearance than physical conditioning. There are very muscular men and women who don't look particularly young for their age, in my opinion.

However, I think you're wrong, Jan, about being able to differentiate a middle-aged man's legs from a young man's leg - in some cases. A guy in his mid-forties who takes care of himself can have excellent skin tone over most of his body...the body skin and muscle tone go after face skin and tone, generally (depending on sun exposure, genetics, etc.).

I would be willing to place a very heavy bet that in a line-up featuring muscular legs from men of varying ages that you would fail to identify my legs as "middle-aged." I know that sounds like sheer vanity, but I don't think it is. This is Science Jeff speaking...and believe me, I am so aching to prove it...but that would involve some revealing photos that I'm not sure would be well-received in certain quarters... But we shall see...


I would qualify that claim by saying that, yes, if you got within a few inches, you certainly could distinguish 20 year old legs from fifty year old legs...there would be slight differences in the skin at the very least. But from a normal viewing range of a few feet back, from a photo, I believe you would fail. Ah...I would so like to put this to the test!dunno moping laugh
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Jan 19, 2009 10:50 PM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
thewall2: To answer your question honestly,.....NO.

I want to be the best that I CAN BE NATURAL.


Good for you, Wall. But when I think of what "natural" means...does it mean not taking vitamin or other kinds of non-steroidal supplements, for instance? Even weight-lifting isn't natural. People can't build weight-lifting muscles from normal activities (in the overall sense, I mean). Performing 1000+ lbs. squats certain isn't natural! dunno confused
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Jan 20, 2009 9:03 AM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
druidess6308: Ah, but are we keeping the emotional and psychological maturity we have now?

Good question, Ambrose. "If I could turn back time...", but we can't. So, I work with what I've got, I'm working at improving it, to look better at 45 than I did at 35...and I get compliments in person about not looking my age, even from my teenage sons. I'm not fighting age specifically...I won't do that...but I'm eating healthier, I don't drink alcohol anywhere near as much, I meditate, work out, and have achieved an inner peace I didn't have then. Quitting smoking will go even further toward this goal. And getting back to the intense work outs at the gym.

So...good questions, my friend...I love the way your mind always has these twists and turns. I enjoy the challenge of answering your questions very much.


What a refreshing change to see a lady here enthusiastically embrace self-improvement. Whenever I've broached the subject of eating healthier, abandoning destructive habits like smoking or drinking, and exercising in order to improve one's health and appearance, I've gotten mostly: "Ah, but I'm happy with me just the way I am and if someone doesn't like it they can damn well lump it!" It's as though the very concept of changing some aspects of one's body and/or life is tantamount to self-betrayal.

I think this kind of attitude is both defeatist and unrealistic. First, one's appeal does depend to no small extent on being healthy and in decent shape. That says a lot about oneself. Also, despite all the gloom and doom about aging - I recall one post awhile back where a lady proudly proclaimed how out of shape she was, and that was fine because she was a mother and middle-aged!? - it's simply a fact that most people can, with a modicum of work and dedication, reinvent themselves both physically and psychologically. These people who say things like "I'm gonna age anyway, so why bother?" remind me of determinists who say whatever they do is "determined" or "fated" so why bother to try doing anything? It's totally self-defeating.

Yes, of course, we're going to age (barring medical breakthroughs, which probably will occur at some future point), but that's hardly an excuse for not attempting to be in shape and healthy.

Anyhow, kudos to you, D, for your positive and insightful attitudes. I'm sure you will reap the benefits of them.
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Jan 20, 2009 9:14 AM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Ambrose2007: What a refreshing change to see a lady here enthusiastically embrace self-improvement. Whenever I've broached the subject of eating healthier, abandoning destructive habits like smoking or drinking, and exercising in order to improve one's health and appearance, I've gotten mostly: "Ah, but I'm happy with me just the way I am and if someone doesn't like it they can damn well lump it!" It's as though the very concept of changing some aspects of one's body and/or life is tantamount to self-betrayal.

I think this kind of attitude is both defeatist and unrealistic. First, one's appeal does depend to no small extent on being healthy and in decent shape. That says a lot about oneself. Also, despite all the gloom and doom about aging - I recall one post awhile back where a lady proudly proclaimed how out of shape she was, and that was fine because she was a mother and middle-aged!? - it's simply a fact that most people can, with a modicum of work and dedication, reinvent themselves both physically and psychologically. These people who say things like "I'm gonna age anyway, so why bother?" remind me of determinists who say whatever they do is "determined" or "fated" so why bother to try doing anything? It's totally self-defeating.

Yes, of course, we're going to age (barring medical breakthroughs, which probably will occur at some future point), but that's hardly an excuse for not attempting to be in shape and healthy.

Anyhow, kudos to you, D, for your positive and insightful attitudes. I'm sure you will reap the benefits of them.


Aging is a state of mind, and self-improvement in all aspects is something we all should strive for our entire lives. I am studying to be a Doctor of Naturopathy, and with those studies, learning how to improve my own life further first so that I can then teach others how to do so. If I can't do it, or feel it unnecessary, how can I strive to teach others to do so? And one of the best ways to not age more than necessary is to learn to take better care of oneself. I'm not doing this to have more appeal for any man, but to live better for me. Yes, an attitude of "why bother, I'm going to age anyway" is very self-defeating...and I let nothing defeat me, including myself. laugh I don't consider that it's ever too late to do things to make one's life better.

Thank you, Ambrose. Wise words. And thank you for your compliment.
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Jan 20, 2009 9:51 AM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
druidess6308: Aging is a state of mind, and self-improvement in all aspects is something we all should strive for our entire lives. I am studying to be a Doctor of Naturopathy, and with those studies, learning how to improve my own life further first so that I can then teach others how to do so. If I can't do it, or feel it unnecessary, how can I strive to teach others to do so? And one of the best ways to not age more than necessary is to learn to take better care of oneself. I'm not doing this to have more appeal for any man, but to live better for me. Yes, an attitude of "why bother, I'm going to age anyway" is very self-defeating...and I let nothing defeat me, including myself. I don't consider that it's ever too late to do things to make one's life better.

Thank you, Ambrose. Wise words. And thank you for your compliment.


I've read one book about naturopathy years ago, and some of its teachings still resonate in me today. One good tip, I thought, was about the effects of combining certain kinds of foods (sugars and carbs, for instance), which I immediately put into practice to good results. That helped a lot in my weight loss and improving digestion. I think that's a very worthy undertaking - studying to become a naturopath - we need more alternative medical practitioners. In some states they can't practice (not in CA last time I checked), but I think they're officially recognized here in South Dakota...?confused wave hug
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Jan 20, 2009 11:49 AM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
GrammarGirl
GrammarGirlGrammarGirlSouthwestern, Manitoba Canada1 Threads 76 Posts
Ambrose2007: I agree there's more to age-related appearance than physical conditioning. There are very muscular men and women who don't look particularly young for their age, in my opinion.

However, I think you're wrong, Jan, about being able to differentiate a middle-aged man's legs from a young man's leg - in some cases. A guy in his mid-forties who takes care of himself can have excellent skin tone over most of his body...the body skin and muscle tone go after face skin and tone, generally (depending on sun exposure, genetics, etc.).

I would be willing to place a very heavy bet that in a line-up featuring muscular legs from men of varying ages that you would fail to identify my legs as "middle-aged." I know that sounds like sheer vanity, but I don't think it is. This is Science Jeff speaking...and believe me, I am so aching to prove it...but that would involve some revealing photos that I'm not sure would be well-received in certain quarters... But we shall see...


Hey, Jan! wave

I believe I would live in the “certain quarters” to which Ambrose is referring.

I can vouch for him and his legs as I have seen them in person – both from a distance and very close up. Science Jeff is correct; there is no way you would be able to differentiate between his legs and the legs of a much younger man. His legs are more toned and muscular than most men's – younger or the same age. I see no difference in his skin tone either.

I’d rather he not have to prove it as I’d like to keep those revealing photos for my own selfish purposes . . . laugh
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Jan 20, 2009 11:51 AM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
GrammarGirl: Hey, Jan!

I believe I would live in the “certain quarters” to which Ambrose is referring.

I can vouch for him and his legs as I have seen them in person – both from a distance and very close up. Science Jeff is correct; there is no way you would be able to differentiate between his legs and the legs of a much younger man. His legs are more toned and muscular than most men's – younger or the same age. I see no difference in his skin tone either.

I’d rather he not have to prove it as I’d like to keep those revealing photos for my own selfish purposes . . .


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Jan 20, 2009 11:58 AM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
GrammarGirl
GrammarGirlGrammarGirlSouthwestern, Manitoba Canada1 Threads 76 Posts
giggle

Hi, Lusc! wave
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Jan 20, 2009 11:59 AM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
GrammarGirl: Hey, Jan!

I believe I would live in the “certain quarters” to which Ambrose is referring.

I can vouch for him and his legs as I have seen them in person – both from a distance and very close up. Science Jeff is correct; there is no way you would be able to differentiate between his legs and the legs of a much younger man. His legs are more toned and muscular than most men's – younger or the same age. I see no difference in his skin tone either.

I’d rather he not have to prove it as I’d like to keep those revealing photos for my own selfish purposes . . .


laugh I feel the same way about yours, GG. wow grin Anyway, I appreciate your kind words.

Believe it or not, this isn't just about ego. Well, maybe mostly. But it's also about what is possible for people to achieve (or to be fortunate enough to possess through plain luck/genetics).

If anyone of you wants to see an example of what is possible for an older person, you ought to check out Claire's Dad. Dear Zeus in Hades...that boy puts most of us to shame in terms of aging clues....wow
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Jan 20, 2009 12:00 PM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
GrammarGirl: Hi, Lusc!


Hi, GG. wave kiss
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Jan 20, 2009 12:02 PM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
rolling on the floor laughing Lushy, my child, can you not accept some things on pure faith? innocent angel
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Jan 20, 2009 12:04 PM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
GrammarGirl: Hi, Lusc!


bowing smitten kiss laugh wave
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Jan 20, 2009 1:15 PM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Ambrose2007: A 45 year old has no problem at all ... I'm 10 years older than that, and I have no problem - sans steroids - matching most young men (or my younger self).


You're ten years older than what???
Older than 45???
But your profile says you're now 44.

Have the steroids affected your memory????
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Jan 20, 2009 1:38 PM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
RayfromUSA: You're ten years older than what???
Older than 45???
But your profile says you're now 44.

Have the steroids affected your memory????


And so I shall remain until mid-February. snooty laugh
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Jan 30, 2009 12:01 AM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
aussiemum21
aussiemum21aussiemum21Brisbane, Queensland Australia3 Posts
If you were my partner it may be a deal breaker because my biggest concern would be your health and the dangers involved.

Cheers Jo
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Jan 30, 2009 12:09 AM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
No , I also wouldn't date a man not on steriods, I wouldn't date him in a box, I wouldn't date him, with a fox, I just would not date him, sam I am.laugh cheers
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Jan 30, 2009 12:11 AM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
shan77
shan77shan77Palmdale, CA, California USA2 Threads 137 Posts
Tater: No , I also wouldn't date a man not on steriods, I wouldn't date him in a box, I wouldn't date him, with a fox, I just would not date him, sam I am.


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Jan 30, 2009 12:20 AM CST Would you date a man on steroids?
desmond
desmonddesmondkissimmee, Florida USA375 Threads 10,888 Posts
Tater: No , I also wouldn't date a man not on steriods, I wouldn't date him in a box, I wouldn't date him, with a fox, I just would not date him, sam I am.




Tater are you telling me no I not sure



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