druidess6308: No, actually. My "ideal type" is actually slightly on the husky or stocky side. Maybe I'm weird, but it's what I like.
I'll also admit that my taste now is different than it was when I was younger...then I did find the "fitness model" type attractive.
Thanks for getting back to me, D. I rather suspected that might be your answer.
I often wonder if people modify their tastes over time in order to have a more realistic chance of obtaining aesthetic satisfaction. For instance, as we get older, we start to find a few wrinkles and grey hairs acceptable, that kind of thing.
I would certainly put myself in that class. And then...I met someone who conformed more to my prior, more youthful, ideals...and suddenly realized that I hadn't entirely misplaced those younger esthetic standards.
I wonder if part of aging doesn't involve settling in that way (not saying it applies to you, Dru, since "stocky" isn't age-related particularly). Just got me thinking.
druidess6308: No, actually. My "ideal type" is actually slightly on the husky or stocky side. Maybe I'm weird, but it's what I like.
I'll also admit that my taste now is different than it was when I was younger...then I did find the "fitness model" type attractive.
ditto! He should really enjoy my cooking! And as for the steroids? have a girlfriend that was married to a user... the roid rage was horrible! black eyes made him feel as macho as he looked i guess! maybe (hopefully!) things have changed?? does it still shrink your parts guys?
druidess6308: If you're using steroids to treat an illness, no problem with it. If you're using them for weight lifting, then you're a vain idiot and I wouldn't date someone like that...but then, you'd be looking for a woman built that way as well, so it wouldn't be an issue.
that reminds me of a scene in a john ritter movie....he goes home with a woman he meets in a bar {who is a female body builder}...and she comes out of the bathroom in her lingerie' ,flexing and posing...and says...''i've been saving this for a special man...how does that make you feel''...and he says...''like mrs. shwarzenegger''...
Ambrose2007: Thanks for getting back to me, D. I rather suspected that might be your answer.
I often wonder if people modify their tastes over time in order to have a more realistic chance of obtaining aesthetic satisfaction. For instance, as we get older, we start to find a few wrinkles and grey hairs acceptable, that kind of thing.
I would certainly put myself in that class. And then...I met someone who conformed more to my prior, more youthful, ideals...and suddenly realized that I hadn't entirely misplaced those younger esthetic standards.
I wonder if part of aging doesn't involve settling in that way (not saying it applies to you, Dru, since "stocky" isn't age-related particularly). Just got me thinking.
Actually, I just find those men more cuddly. And I sure hope that as we age and develop them ourselves that we find wrinkles and grey hairs more acceptable!
As to the other, I think it's the wisdom of aging, more than settling. I cared more about looks when I was younger...mine and those of others...and was less careful about what people were like on the inside when it came to dating. It was purely physical attraction first. Now I've learned what's important, and I care less about the outside and more about the inside.
For example, when I was younger I didn't go out without make-up, every hair in place, tight jeans, and dressed to kill on a weekend night. Now I go to my local VFW in my sweats, and I never wear make-up. (If I find I still own any it will need to be tossed out...haven't worn it at all in about 5 years, and rarely wore it for about 10 before that.)
jlw45: that reminds me of a scene in a john ritter movie....he goes home with a woman he meets in a bar {who is a female body builder}...and she comes out of the bathroom in her lingerie' ,flexing and posing...and says...''i've been saving this for a special man...how does that make you feel''...and he says...''like mrs. shwarzenegger''...
I have never gone for that model fitness type. I like someone who is realistic and active. as long as they aren't a couch potato, eat decently with moderate exercise, their muscles will shine through naturally..
dubs72: ditto! He should really enjoy my cooking! And as for the steroids? have a girlfriend that was married to a user... the roid rage was horrible! black eyes made him feel as macho as he looked i guess! maybe (hopefully!) things have changed?? does it still shrink your parts guys?
Seriously...you prefer the "husky" type over someone in more defined/muscular condition (I just find that surprising because of your age and appearance).
Physical STRENGTH IS A GIFT FROM GOD...NOT STEROIDS.
God will give me strength...not roids.
I've been wondering if you use steriods, Wall. No offense, but from the weights you've mentioned, I assumed you have/did.
If you used steroids (and never have), I would expect that you could add 200 lbs. to your squat, with similar gains in other lifts. If true, would that tempt you?
Ambrose2007: Seriously...you prefer the "husky" type over someone in more defined/muscular condition (I just find that surprising because of your age and appearance).
yes, I prefer my guy to be over 200 lbs. Not... hmmm how to phrase... a barrel chest, not so much a beer belly.
druidess6308: Actually, I just find those men more cuddly. And I sure hope that as we age and develop them ourselves that we find wrinkles and grey hairs more acceptable!
As to the other, I think it's the wisdom of aging, more than settling. I cared more about looks when I was younger...mine and those of others...and was less careful about what people were like on the inside when it came to dating. It was purely physical attraction first. Now I've learned what's important, and I care less about the outside and more about the inside.
For example, when I was younger I didn't go out without make-up, every hair in place, tight jeans, and dressed to kill on a weekend night. Now I go to my local VFW in my sweats, and I never wear make-up. (If I find I still own any it will need to be tossed out...haven't worn it at all in about 5 years, and rarely wore it for about 10 before that.)
Evolution of a human.
Well, that's interesting, Dru. It would be a fascinating psychological experiment, I think, to transport you back to your 22 year old physical self, and see if you still preferred grey hairs and wrinkles...
Consider this thought-experiment: let's say everyone had the capability to look whatever age they wished. How many, do you think, would choose to look wrinkled and grey and out of shape?
I'm guessing next to zero. By extension, I suspect that next to zero would prefer one's mate to adopt such a form, if the younger option were available.
I don´t know, I thnk steroids are not the sensible way to obtain a certain look unless you are a competition bodybuilder and you have to go for that extra edge.
As for the protruding veins, I find it repulsive in both men and women. I can´t look at them, they make me queasy. Madonna, I think looks dreadful, those veins in her arms, in my opinion, just make her look older.The faces of marathon runners look aged beyond their years.
I also believe that we inherit a particular shape, me, I´m not overweight, but soft and curvy, always have been. It would mean constant workouts and steroid assistance for me to achieve the ripped look. I couldn´t be bothered I´m afraid to put in all that work and ingest drugs in order to maintain it.
And for what reason? We all age and our bodies change, a 45 year old, with the help of steroids is still never going to look like a 24 year old on the same fitness program. Just look at the legs of middle-áged people, men in particular, they are much thinner in general and the first to lose that spring.
Eyes dim, hair falls out, ears lengthen (men generally) skin wrinkles. No amount of exercise or steroids can bely this fact.
It´s a losing battle, and the best thing is to accept the ageing process and combat it as much as we can (for health, not vanity reasons) by gentle exercise, and eating healthily.
dubs72: yes, I prefer my guy to be over 200 lbs. Not... hmmm how to phrase... a barrel chest, not so much a beer belly.
Interesting...because I put a LOT of work into trimming weight back from 230 or so into my present svelte form in order to be more healthy and attractive...
I wonder which my significant other would prefer...
Lee38: Just wondered if the use of such drugs would turn you off a man? I'm about to do my second, 12-week steroid cycle and, while I wouldn't volunteer the information to a potential partner, I would 'fess up if asked. Would it be a deal-breaker for you (please, no moralisers)?
If all your parts working, then I wouldn't be turned off.
Jan1305: I don´t know, I thnk steroids are not the sensible way to obtain a certain look unless you are a competition bodybuilder and you have to go for that extra edge.
As for the protruding veins, I find it repulsive in both men and women. I can´t look at them, they make me queasy. Madonna, I think looks dreadful, those veins in her arms, in my opinion, just make her look older.The faces of marathon runners look aged beyond their years.
I also believe that we inherit a particular shape, me, I´m not overweight, but soft and curvy, always have been. It would mean constant workouts and steroid assistance for me to achieve the ripped look. I couldn´t be bothered I´m afraid to put in all that work and ingest drugs in order to maintain it.
And for what reason? We all age and our bodies change, a 45 year old, with the help of steroids is still never going to look like a 24 year old on the same fitness program. Just look at the legs of middle-áged people, men in particular, they are much thinner in general and the first to lose that spring.
Eyes dim, hair falls out, ears lengthen (men generally) skin wrinkles. No amount of exercise or steroids can bely this fact.
It´s a losing battle, and the best thing is to accept the ageing process and combat it as much as we can (for health, not vanity reasons) by gentle exercise, and eating healthily.
You should see MY legs, Jan. Sure, it's a losing battle, but that's part of the challenge - to hold onto physical conditioning as long as possible, in my opinion. And you have the ages wrong, by the way. A 45 year old has no problem at all - assuming decent genetics - looking very similar to a young man in terms of muscular development. I'm 10 years older than that, and I have no problem - sans steroids - matching most young men (or my younger self). Will and discipline can take you a very long ways (along with genetics).
Ambrose2007: Well, that's interesting, Dru. It would be a fascinating psychological experiment, I think, to transport you back to your 22 year old physical self, and see if you still preferred grey hairs and wrinkles...
Consider this thought-experiment: let's say everyone had the capability to look whatever age they wished. How many, do you think, would choose to look wrinkled and grey and out of shape?
I'm guessing next to zero. By extension, I suspect that next to zero would prefer one's mate to adopt such a form, if the younger option were available.
Thoughts...?
Ah, but are we keeping the emotional and psychological maturity we have now?
Good question, Ambrose. "If I could turn back time...", but we can't. So, I work with what I've got, I'm working at improving it, to look better at 45 than I did at 35...and I get compliments in person about not looking my age, even from my teenage sons. I'm not fighting age specifically...I won't do that...but I'm eating healthier, I don't drink alcohol anywhere near as much, I meditate, work out, and have achieved an inner peace I didn't have then. Quitting smoking will go even further toward this goal. And getting back to the intense work outs at the gym.
So...good questions, my friend...I love the way your mind always has these twists and turns. I enjoy the challenge of answering your questions very much.
Ambrose2007: Interesting...because I put a LOT of work into trimming weight back from 230 or so into my present svelte form in order to be more healthy and attractive...
I wonder which my significant other would prefer...
and at 6'... Im guessing you're between 187-197? That falls right near perfect (...well, in the world according to me!) The bottom line is, the MOST attractive thing is that a person is comfortable in their own skin and is happy with who they are.
Ambrose2007: You should see MY legs, Jan. Sure, it's a losing battle, but that's part of the challenge - to hold onto physical conditioning as long as possible, in my opinion. And you have the ages wrong, by the way. A 45 year old has no problem at all - assuming decent genetics - looking very similar to a young man in terms of muscular development. I'm 10 years older than that, and I have no problem - sans steroids - matching most young men (or my younger self). Will and discipline can take you a very long ways (along with genetics).
Not according to your profile, Ambrose. It has you as 44.
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I'll also admit that my taste now is different than it was when I was younger...then I did find the "fitness model" type attractive.
Thanks for getting back to me, D. I rather suspected that might be your answer.
I often wonder if people modify their tastes over time in order to have a more realistic chance of obtaining aesthetic satisfaction. For instance, as we get older, we start to find a few wrinkles and grey hairs acceptable, that kind of thing.
I would certainly put myself in that class. And then...I met someone who conformed more to my prior, more youthful, ideals...and suddenly realized that I hadn't entirely misplaced those younger esthetic standards.
I wonder if part of aging doesn't involve settling in that way (not saying it applies to you, Dru, since "stocky" isn't age-related particularly). Just got me thinking.