Law and Grace, Old Covenant and New Covenant (133)
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buzzy: gaging
Well that's real polite sir. And I take it you must have smoke the other 'g' in your displaced word of sarcasm.
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BarrenPneuma: Well that's real polite sir. And I take it you must have smoke the other 'g' in your displaced word of sarcasm.
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Oh Lord, please prune this tongue, so we are not subjected to nauseating pontifications on the vicissitudes of life, & other various & sundry topics, as seen through the skewed view of a myopic lens.....Amen
In response to: The LORD gave me the two tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant . . . For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ . . . This cup is the new covenant in My blood. (Deu_9:11; Joh_1:17; and Luk_22:20)
Deu 9:11 At the end of the 40 days and 40 nights, the LORD gave me the two stone tablets with his promise on them.
Joh 1:17 The Teachings were given through Moses, but kindness and truth came into existence through Jesus Christ.
Luk 22:20 When supper was over, he did the same with the cup. He said, "This cup that is poured out for you is the new promise made with my blood."
In your meditation upon law and grace, consider the principal characteristics of the Old Covenant and the New Covenant. When the Lord wrote the message of His law upon stone tablets for Moses, He was prescribing the terms of the Old Covenant. "The LORD gave me the two tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant." When Jesus came into the world to die on the cross, the Lord was establishing a New Covenant. "This cup is the new covenant in My blood."
These two covenants of law and grace present one of the major contrasting themes in the word of God. "For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ..." Understanding the differences between these two covenants is of utmost importance for living the Christian life as God intends.
God's law tells us that He desires holiness to characterize the way we live. Only God's grace can provide such righteousness in our lives. God's law tells us that He wants Christlike love to permeate our attitudes and relationships. Only God's grace can develop such love in us. God's law tells us that He desires the perfections of the Father to be growing in us. Only God's grace is sufficient to carry out such a process of transformation.
The law of God is the what; the grace of God is the how. The law of God reveals sin; the grace of God forgives sin. The law of God indicates man's problem; the grace of God provides God's remedy. The law of God demands performance by man; the grace of God offers provision from God.
The law of God is the standard; the grace of God is the means. The law of God is the spiritual measuring rod that evaluates lives; the grace of God is the nurturing resource that produces spiritual life. The law of God tells us of the character of God; the grace of God reproduces that character in us. The law of God is the effect God wants to see; the grace of God is the cause that brings forth that effect. Lord God of Truth, help me to rightly divide Your truth. Enlighten my spiritual understanding that I might increasingly grasp the differences between law and grace. Show me the full implications of the old covenant and the new covenant.Your word impresses me with the enormous significance of these issues. Thank You for Your patience concerning my negligence or confusion on these matters. O Lord, I earnestly desire to live a righteous and holy life. Teach me the path of humble dependence upon Your glorious grace, through Jesus, my Lord and my life, Amen.
Deu 9:11 At the end of the 40 days and 40 nights, the LORD gave me the two stone tablets with his promise on them.
Joh 1:17 The Teachings were given through Moses, but kindness and truth came into existence through Jesus Christ.
Luk 22:20 When supper was over, he did the same with the cup. He said, "This cup that is poured out for you is the new promise made with my blood."
In your meditation upon law and grace, consider the principal characteristics of the Old Covenant and the New Covenant. When the Lord wrote the message of His law upon stone tablets for Moses, He was prescribing the terms of the Old Covenant. "The LORD gave me the two tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant." When Jesus came into the world to die on the cross, the Lord was establishing a New Covenant. "This cup is the new covenant in My blood."
These two covenants of law and grace present one of the major contrasting themes in the word of God. "For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ..." Understanding the differences between these two covenants is of utmost importance for living the Christian life as God intends.
God's law tells us that He desires holiness to characterize the way we live. Only God's grace can provide such righteousness in our lives. God's law tells us that He wants Christlike love to permeate our attitudes and relationships. Only God's grace can develop such love in us. God's law tells us that He desires the perfections of the Father to be growing in us. Only God's grace is sufficient to carry out such a process of transformation.
The law of God is the what; the grace of God is the how. The law of God reveals sin; the grace of God forgives sin. The law of God indicates man's problem; the grace of God provides God's remedy. The law of God demands performance by man; the grace of God offers provision from God.
The law of God is the standard; the grace of God is the means. The law of God is the spiritual measuring rod that evaluates lives; the grace of God is the nurturing resource that produces spiritual life. The law of God tells us of the character of God; the grace of God reproduces that character in us. The law of God is the effect God wants to see; the grace of God is the cause that brings forth that effect. Lord God of Truth, help me to rightly divide Your truth. Enlighten my spiritual understanding that I might increasingly grasp the differences between law and grace. Show me the full implications of the old covenant and the new covenant.Your word impresses me with the enormous significance of these issues. Thank You for Your patience concerning my negligence or confusion on these matters. O Lord, I earnestly desire to live a righteous and holy life. Teach me the path of humble dependence upon Your glorious grace, through Jesus, my Lord and my life, Amen.
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TroyBoy: Oh Lord, please prune this tongue, so we are not subjected to nauseating pontifications on the vicissitudes of life, & other various & sundry topics, as seen through the skewed view of a myopic lens.....Amen
Are you following the Lady?
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The only reason a person will be rude in reply to any message is because they did not want to hear it. But if the message was of great value to them, they would be grateful. Should a person never say anything to be approved of by others.Did the poster post this thread out of meanness and hate....no! It was posted out of caring for others and a love of what they have found to share a thing they find good.
Those that reply in a nasty way, just because the message was not liked does not give the persons the excuse to be rude and insulting. Be better than that and have respect for other human beings. There is a difference between debate and vile remarks to an attempted kindness.
Think on this! A car horn can not be pointed at anyone when blown. Some get angry for reasons not real and others are happy and wave. The fact was the horn was blown to make a dog move out of the way.
A message to those who need it is not pointed to insult others. So why not a better person and not plant the seeds of hate and insult when you reply.
Those that reply in a nasty way, just because the message was not liked does not give the persons the excuse to be rude and insulting. Be better than that and have respect for other human beings. There is a difference between debate and vile remarks to an attempted kindness.
Think on this! A car horn can not be pointed at anyone when blown. Some get angry for reasons not real and others are happy and wave. The fact was the horn was blown to make a dog move out of the way.
A message to those who need it is not pointed to insult others. So why not a better person and not plant the seeds of hate and insult when you reply.
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I know that many people do get confused when reading the Bible.
Their understanding of the character of God is hazy, due to what they may believe to be contradictions.
I hope that this message will bring clarity, that you will gain understanding concerning the old covenant and the new covenant.
It is quite simple, when explained in this manner.
Did this help anyone here to understand the difference between law and grace?
Law is hard, the laws can not be kept. They do not make us righteous. Grace brings FREEDOM! No need to walk on pins and needles, in fear of making a mistake.
This should give us an attitude of graditude, that we may all be able to walk in LOVE!
Their understanding of the character of God is hazy, due to what they may believe to be contradictions.
I hope that this message will bring clarity, that you will gain understanding concerning the old covenant and the new covenant.
It is quite simple, when explained in this manner.
Did this help anyone here to understand the difference between law and grace?
Law is hard, the laws can not be kept. They do not make us righteous. Grace brings FREEDOM! No need to walk on pins and needles, in fear of making a mistake.
This should give us an attitude of graditude, that we may all be able to walk in LOVE!
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I agree, nice post...
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Thank you HL!
And thank you Rilly for your post as well!
And thank you Rilly for your post as well!
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Conrad73: Are you following the Lady?
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RillyNiceGuy: The only reason a person will be rude in reply to any message is because they did not want to hear it. But if the message was of great value to them, they would be grateful. Should a person never say anything to be approved of by others.Did the poster post this thread out of meanness and hate....no! It was posted out of caring for others and a love of what they have found to share a thing they find good.
Those that reply in a nasty way, just because the message was not liked does not give the persons the excuse to be rude and insulting. Be better than that and have respect for other human beings. There is a difference between debate and vile remarks to an attempted kindness.
Think on this! A car horn can not be pointed at anyone when blown. Some get angry for reasons not real and others are happy and wave. The fact was the horn was blown to make a dog move out of the way.
A message to those who need it is not pointed to insult others. So why not a better person and not plant the seeds of hate and insult when you reply.
Those that reply in a nasty way, just because the message was not liked does not give the persons the excuse to be rude and insulting. Be better than that and have respect for other human beings. There is a difference between debate and vile remarks to an attempted kindness.
Think on this! A car horn can not be pointed at anyone when blown. Some get angry for reasons not real and others are happy and wave. The fact was the horn was blown to make a dog move out of the way.
A message to those who need it is not pointed to insult others. So why not a better person and not plant the seeds of hate and insult when you reply.
Gagging harder.
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RillyNiceGuy: The only reason a person will be rude in reply to any message is because they did not want to hear it. But if the message was of great value to them, they would be grateful. Should a person never say anything to be approved of by others.Did the poster post this thread out of meanness and hate....no! It was posted out of caring for others and a love of what they have found to share a thing they find good.
Those that reply in a nasty way, just because the message was not liked does not give the persons the excuse to be rude and insulting. Be better than that and have respect for other human beings. There is a difference between debate and vile remarks to an attempted kindness.
Think on this! A car horn can not be pointed at anyone when blown. Some get angry for reasons not real and others are happy and wave. The fact was the horn was blown to make a dog move out of the way.
A message to those who need it is not pointed to insult others. So why not a better person and not plant the seeds of hate and insult when you reply.
Those that reply in a nasty way, just because the message was not liked does not give the persons the excuse to be rude and insulting. Be better than that and have respect for other human beings. There is a difference between debate and vile remarks to an attempted kindness.
Think on this! A car horn can not be pointed at anyone when blown. Some get angry for reasons not real and others are happy and wave. The fact was the horn was blown to make a dog move out of the way.
A message to those who need it is not pointed to insult others. So why not a better person and not plant the seeds of hate and insult when you reply.
Didn't you tell me once this is not a forum for debating? When I did ask a legit question of you Christians, did I get an intelligent answer? NO, I got "you need to meditate 10 mins a day." So if I'm gagging it's because you remind me of the 'Christians' I grew up around. "False to their power, from these turn away." I knew it would be you to respond first Rilly, you are soooo easy to control. Had to see who was here, now that I know, LATER.
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It is fine to debate with respect for others, to insult is not a good way to make points. You have never asked ME a sensible question expecting an answer. I have only seen you to voice a rudeness.
Easy to control.....to be rude and expect a man to reply is not control.....it is cause and effect. If you wish to learn something or seek an answer....I am around. But for you to only insult or be rude....I won't waste my time. Going GAG is childish insult. I never asked for time to meditate....never.
A thing you do not seem to know is that I find much wrong with normal Christians like those you grew up around also. But being rude is only being rude.
Easy to control.....to be rude and expect a man to reply is not control.....it is cause and effect. If you wish to learn something or seek an answer....I am around. But for you to only insult or be rude....I won't waste my time. Going GAG is childish insult. I never asked for time to meditate....never.
A thing you do not seem to know is that I find much wrong with normal Christians like those you grew up around also. But being rude is only being rude.
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buzzy: Gagging harder.
But with a tongue like yours is it really that hard to believe you are gagging. Someone get a medic!!!
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Man was living lawless and without God, They were a God to themselves and would die. The law was given to reveal sin to man.(sin is breaking the law.) Man would not be able to keep the law and it was a stumbling block to man. It was so to open the way to a better thing and to open the way to those not of Jacob in flesh but coming in faith.
To break the law was a death sentence. Only one never breaking the law could give life for the life of one breaking the law. By the death of Christ, he giving a life more abundant than we, is able to die for all. By his death paying the penalty, we repenting, believing, and baptisted into his death and rising into his life more abundant, We are give an unearned pardon called grace. You live by faith and grace having the Holy Spirit or you die by the law.
To break the law was a death sentence. Only one never breaking the law could give life for the life of one breaking the law. By the death of Christ, he giving a life more abundant than we, is able to die for all. By his death paying the penalty, we repenting, believing, and baptisted into his death and rising into his life more abundant, We are give an unearned pardon called grace. You live by faith and grace having the Holy Spirit or you die by the law.
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RillyNiceGuy: Man was living lawless and without God, They were a God to themselves and would die. The law was given to reveal sin to man.(sin is breaking the law.) Man would not be able to keep the law and it was a stumbling block to man. It was so to open the way to a better thing and to open the way to those not of Jacob in flesh but coming in faith.
To break the law was a death sentence. Only one never breaking the law could give life for the life of one breaking the law. By the death of Christ, he giving a life more abundant than we, is able to die for all. By his death paying the penalty, we repenting, believing, and baptisted into his death and rising into his life more abundant, We are give an unearned pardon called grace. You live by faith and grace having the Holy Spirit or you die by the law.
To break the law was a death sentence. Only one never breaking the law could give life for the life of one breaking the law. By the death of Christ, he giving a life more abundant than we, is able to die for all. By his death paying the penalty, we repenting, believing, and baptisted into his death and rising into his life more abundant, We are give an unearned pardon called grace. You live by faith and grace having the Holy Spirit or you die by the law.
Very well put RNG!!! That's it, in a nutshell.
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....Buzzy, well said.....without mentioning names, which is obviously verboten, some chivalrous men from the south seem to be predisposed to rally behind the hypocrisy espoused & religious ideology imposed upon others from the midwest, whose cowardess is belied only by the fact that they not onloy have the facts wrong, but when they are called upon it, attempt to reframe the substantive issue(s)(of their ignorance) and project them back upon the commenter, alleging "personal attacks"......please note as well that NONE of any of these responses buttress their original post ---- but whine about being picked on ---- like grade school.....
.....I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with quoting a biblical or other scriptural pinpoint citation.....its their decision to interpret that post, supported not by scholarly works, but rather by "self authored yahoo blogs', which ostensibly gives some legitimacy to their position.....& when they are called on it, they get pissed.....
....as for me, Martin Luther clearly & unequivocally demonstrated that an individual may have a personal relationship with their higher power, whomever that may be......the line is crossed where others, who are so self absorbed with seeing their own name in print, supported by their own interpretation given by some divine providence, choose to impose that on others.....a clear violation of a constitutional right to Free Exercise & the Establishment Clause, clearly embodied, expressly enumerated, & established by the 1st Amendment.....
....keep in mind a few things.....NOT once has any of these posters debated the substantive details which belie their positions.....why? Because they simply cannot....its much easier to hide behind a cloak of cowardness, framed in a "christian" context, and to labels those who oppose their posts as "dumb-asses", or heretics, or any other label of convienience, which as you so eloquently point out, doesn't seem too Christian.....
....shall we meditate together?
.....I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with quoting a biblical or other scriptural pinpoint citation.....its their decision to interpret that post, supported not by scholarly works, but rather by "self authored yahoo blogs', which ostensibly gives some legitimacy to their position.....& when they are called on it, they get pissed.....
....as for me, Martin Luther clearly & unequivocally demonstrated that an individual may have a personal relationship with their higher power, whomever that may be......the line is crossed where others, who are so self absorbed with seeing their own name in print, supported by their own interpretation given by some divine providence, choose to impose that on others.....a clear violation of a constitutional right to Free Exercise & the Establishment Clause, clearly embodied, expressly enumerated, & established by the 1st Amendment.....
....keep in mind a few things.....NOT once has any of these posters debated the substantive details which belie their positions.....why? Because they simply cannot....its much easier to hide behind a cloak of cowardness, framed in a "christian" context, and to labels those who oppose their posts as "dumb-asses", or heretics, or any other label of convienience, which as you so eloquently point out, doesn't seem too Christian.....
....shall we meditate together?
buzzy: Didn't you tell me once this is not a forum for debating? When I did ask a legit question of you Christians, did I get an intelligent answer? NO, I got "you need to meditate 10 mins a day." So if I'm gagging it's because you remind me of the 'Christians' I grew up around. "False to their power, from these turn away." I knew it would be you to respond first Rilly, you are soooo easy to control. Had to see who was here, now that I know, LATER.
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RillyNiceGuy: Man was living lawless and without God, They were a God to themselves and would die. The law was given to reveal sin to man.(sin is breaking the law.) Man would not be able to keep the law and it was a stumbling block to man. It was so to open the way to a better thing and to open the way to those not of Jacob in flesh but coming in faith.
To break the law was a death sentence. Only one never breaking the law could give life for the life of one breaking the law. By the death of Christ, he giving a life more abundant than we, is able to die for all. By his death paying the penalty, we repenting, believing, and baptisted into his death and rising into his life more abundant, We are give an unearned pardon called grace. You live by faith and grace having the Holy Spirit or you die by the law.
To break the law was a death sentence. Only one never breaking the law could give life for the life of one breaking the law. By the death of Christ, he giving a life more abundant than we, is able to die for all. By his death paying the penalty, we repenting, believing, and baptisted into his death and rising into his life more abundant, We are give an unearned pardon called grace. You live by faith and grace having the Holy Spirit or you die by the law.
My oh my, the edification which must occur.....go to your nearest library & pick up Dershowitz's "The Genesis Of Justice".....(Ten Stories of Biblical Injustice that led to the Ten Commandments & Modern Law).....you may learn something.....& then call me.
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BarrenPneuma: But with a tongue like yours is it really that hard to believe you are gagging. Someone get a medic!!!
Bet you lot would hate me as a medic
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Deu 9:11 At the end of the 40 days and 40 nights, the LORD gave me the two stone tablets with his promise on them.
Joh 1:17 The Teachings were given through Moses, but kindness and truth came into existence through Jesus Christ.
Luk 22:20 When supper was over, he did the same with the cup. He said, "This cup that is poured out for you is the new promise made with my blood."
In your meditation upon law and grace, consider the principal characteristics of the Old Covenant and the New Covenant. When the Lord wrote the message of His law upon stone tablets for Moses, He was prescribing the terms of the Old Covenant. "The LORD gave me the two tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant." When Jesus came into the world to die on the cross, the Lord was establishing a New Covenant. "This cup is the new covenant in My blood."
These two covenants of law and grace present one of the major contrasting themes in the word of God. "For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ..." Understanding the differences between these two covenants is of utmost importance for living the Christian life as God intends.
God's law tells us that He desires holiness to characterize the way we live. Only God's grace can provide such righteousness in our lives. God's law tells us that He wants Christlike love to permeate our attitudes and relationships. Only God's grace can develop such love in us. God's law tells us that He desires the perfections of the Father to be growing in us. Only God's grace is sufficient to carry out such a process of transformation.
The law of God is the what; the grace of God is the how. The law of God reveals sin; the grace of God forgives sin. The law of God indicates man's problem; the grace of God provides God's remedy. The law of God demands performance by man; the grace of God offers provision from God.
The law of God is the standard; the grace of God is the means. The law of God is the spiritual measuring rod that evaluates lives; the grace of God is the nurturing resource that produces spiritual life. The law of God tells us of the character of God; the grace of God reproduces that character in us. The law of God is the effect God wants to see; the grace of God is the cause that brings forth that effect.
Lord God of Truth, help me to rightly divide Your truth. Enlighten my spiritual understanding that I might increasingly grasp the differences between law and grace. Show me the full implications of the old covenant and the new covenant.Your word impresses me with the enormous significance of these issues. Thank You for Your patience concerning my negligence or confusion on these matters. O Lord, I earnestly desire to live a righteous and holy life. Teach me the path of humble dependence upon Your glorious grace, through Jesus, my Lord and my life, Amen.