Eclectic: I agree with you 100%! This dreadful abbreviated texting has lead many to believe that this is the new direction of the English language. I want to know that my potential "perfect match" is making a concerted effort to properly convey their thoughts and they can spell correctly while they're at it. I wouldn't even consider making a connection with someone who contacts me using misspelled words, non-capitalized letters, and incomplete sentences. Wouldn't our initial face-to-face conversation be an interesting one! If people want to be taken seriously, then they should make the effort to present a good first impression. If spelling is a personal challenge, there's a great book available. It's called a dictionary. If you are a poor typist, then type slower and proof read, several times. If you choose to continue to refer to yourself as an unimportant lower cased "i", then that is exactly how you will be perceived.
guess we are all different. Because a person's spelling is not perfect it does not mean they cannot hold an interesting conversation or be an intelligent person.
trish123: I agree, poor teaching skills have a lot to answer for. There are many children leaving schools without the basic literary skills and imo, this is in part, down to teachers being just too busy to give the one to one attention that was the norm a few years earlier - this in turn leads to further problems with behaviour etc. Its very difficult to instill self belief in a child who considers him/herself to be underachieving.....
They told me Im an 'intelligent dyslexic' - their words - which means that all my life I have been subconsciously developing coping strategies - but if you ever got in a car with me and I said go left - simply do the opposite every time......
Both my eldest boys have dyslexia, both went to Grammar School both have done well in life, my youngest son at 15 reads and write like that of an 8 year old, but he does not have dyslexia, just very very poor schooling, now its going to be a really hard struggle for him when he goes to 6th form College as he feels he is academically worthless and has been told so.(his teachers view not mine). I went ballistic at his last parent evening when his tutor said that he (my son) did not have the ability to progress and not to consider entering university.
rizlared: Both my eldest boys have dyslexia, both went to Grammar School both have done well in life, my youngest son at 15 reads and write like that of an 8 year old, but he does not have dyslexia, just very very poor schooling, now its going to be a really hard struggle for him when he goes to 6th form College as he feels he is academically worthless and has been told so.(his teachers view not mine). I went ballistic at his last parent evening when his tutor said that he (my son) did not have the ability to progress and not to consider entering university.
i experienced similiar responses from academics they do not seem to realize the effect it has on a child, took me 4 yrs to get my son the recognition from the school to get him the extra help. He does not have an academic job, but has achieved well in other areas in his life.
Tater: Most of the time, it all has to do with the person slowing down and learning correctly.. (the brain reads words even if they are spelled wrong as long as the first and last letter are in the right place....) I don't beleive in Dyslexia either.....
You may read words but I read sentence by sentence, I very rarely actually read each individual word unless I am checking something or want to be absolutely certain I have grasped the meaning of that sentence.
The reading of word with first and last letters transposed is something around 85 percent can do, but not all.
What is more embarrassing than to misspell the name of the problem? Just remember that it is mis + spell and that will spell you the worry about spelling "spell."
morgan5: hi trish just something i feel strongly about, my son has problems and not through lack of effort or laziness. He has been made to feel inferior many times by others because of it and it's wrong. He has always been in work and has grown into a man i'm proud of. Yet i know if he was to post on here he would be humiliated by some.
a brother in law of mine can barely write more than his own name Morgan - but he can make anything out of wood that you care to name - owns his own home outright through sheer hard work too.
Spelling simply isnt the be all and end all of a person.......
Eclectic: I agree with you 100%! This dreadful abbreviated texting has lead many to believe that this is the new direction of the English language. I want to know that my potential "perfect match" is making a concerted effort to properly convey their thoughts and they can spell correctly while they're at it. I wouldn't even consider making a connection with someone who contacts me using misspelled words, non-capitalized letters, and incomplete sentences. Wouldn't our initial face-to-face conversation be an interesting one! If people want to be taken seriously, then they should make the effort to present a good first impression. If spelling is a personal challenge, there's a great book available. It's called a dictionary. If you are a poor typist, then type slower and proof read, several times. If you choose to continue to refer to yourself as an unimportant lower cased "i", then that is exactly how you will be perceived.
IMO honesty and integrity are more important than spelling and capitalization. People can proof read and correct their spelling to make a grammatically correct perfect profile, and still not be worthy. When you meet someone in the real world and converse with them you have no idea about there skills or actual lack thereof, correct? So what if there is a "connection," then you find out that that have these so called problems writing? Do you dump them?
trish123: a brother in law of mine can barely write more than his own name Morgan - but he can make anything out of wood that you care to name - owns his own home outright through sheer hard work too.
Spelling simply isnt the be all and end all of a person.......
coodos, koodos, kudos, or however you want to spell it.
trish123: a brother in law of mine can barely write more than his own name Morgan - but he can make anything out of wood that you care to name - owns his own home outright through sheer hard work too.
Spelling simply isnt the be all and end all of a person.......
from a young age my Son could strip a bike and rebuild, he too is clever with his hands. What really annoys me is when people who have no understanding confuse this with lack of intelligence.
hawk69: IMO honesty and integrity are more important than spelling and capitalization. People can proof read and correct their spelling to make a grammatically correct perfect profile, and still not be worthy. When you meet someone in the real world and converse with them you have no idea about there skills or actual lack thereof, correct? So what if there is a "connection," then you find out that that have these so called problems writing? Do you dump them?
hawk69: IMO honesty and integrity are more important than spelling and capitalization. People can proof read and correct their spelling to make a grammatically correct perfect profile, and still not be worthy. When you meet someone in the real world and converse with them you have no idea about there skills or actual lack thereof, correct? So what if there is a "connection," then you find out that that have these so called problems writing? Do you dump them?
Eclectic: I agree with you 100%! This dreadful abbreviated texting has lead many to believe that this is the new direction of the English language. I want to know that my potential "perfect match" is making a concerted effort to properly convey their thoughts and they can spell correctly while they're at it. I wouldn't even consider making a connection with someone who contacts me using misspelled words, non-capitalized letters, and incomplete sentences. Wouldn't our initial face-to-face conversation be an interesting one! If people want to be taken seriously, then they should make the effort to present a good first impression. If spelling is a personal challenge, there's a great book available. It's called a dictionary. If you are a poor typist, then type slower and proof read, several times. If you choose to continue to refer to yourself as an unimportant lower cased "i", then that is exactly how you will be perceived.
I don't fully agree,when you set yourself up with such high standards you liable to get badly hurt in the falling down.
Anyone can use a spellchecker, so just assuming that those that spell correctly are better educated is a fallacy, Grammar is, I would admit, a bit hard to fudge. However, if I write to a prospective lady, I would always check the spellig and grammar, not to impress her, but because I take pride in writing, I would not be very impressed if I was judged on my spelling and grammar,rather than the actual contents of my letter.
PS Your post should really have been split into three separate paragraphs.
It is my amateur observation that those who find difficulty with bad writing skills are those with good writing skills...which leads to issues of class, education, and status....Having been lucky enough to get a reasonably good education, I am often irritated by displays of surprisingly inept grammar from even first-world countries on these pages...however, this observation is moderated by the awareness that education is not equal, and that oftentimes the writers are not english mother-tongue....my impatience has to be tempered by realism...how much poorer these forums would be, if not for their international reach...
rizlared: You may read words but I read sentence by sentence, I very rarely actually read each individual word unless I am checking something or want to be absolutely certain I have grasped the meaning of that sentence.
The reading of word with first and last letters transposed is something around 85 percent can do, but not all.
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I konw svereal pepole woh aer soppuse ot haev it, and they never pay attention when they are trying to learn something, not that they can't learn it corretly....JMO
ooby_dooby: This criticism is aimed at those whose primary language is English.
I have seen a large number of profiles, thread titles and posts which were so badly written, that it makes me wonder how people can get by in this world advertising their lack of education every time they put pencil to paper. I know this has been mentioned many times, but it doesn't seem to induce people to make a little effort to make a better impression when exposing their writing skills to the public, especially when seeking a mate. I can well imagine people being turned down for a job because the interviewer got disgusted reading halfway through their job application. If you look at an example of attrocious writing, say in a profile, with consistantly misspelled words like "ment" instead of "meant" or "i" instead of "I" or sentences beginning with a lower case letter, or no spaces between sentences. Then you look at their specs and see HS or "some college" you have to wonder how the Hell did they ever get through HS?
OK, I feel better now. Thank you for listening. Carry on.
This is quite a good post, if everyone looks at other peoples postings there are many spelling mistakes, but you always get people giving excuses for others. I went to a state school, left at 15 and started living on my own and earn a living to keep myself. My education was extremely good l feel, on another thread yesterday l posted and sent without reading, which is something l always do, however l fogot an 's' in a word and have not yet stopped thinking about it!.
Some of the threads here are difficult to decipher and one sometimes does not know the context of the question or posting. This apart, there is the 'social worker syndrome' where others are making excuses instead of 'smacking legs' and this has been the problem for many years.
yubba: This is quite a good post, if everyone looks at other peoples postings there are many spelling mistakes, but you always get people giving excuses for others. I went to a state school, left at 15 and started living on my own and earn a living to keep myself. My education was extremely good l feel, on another thread yesterday l posted and sent without reading, which is something l always do, however l fogot an 's' in a word and have not yet stopped thinking about it!.
Some of the threads here are difficult to decipher and one sometimes does not know the context of the question or posting. This apart, there is the 'social worker syndrome' where others are making excuses instead of 'smacking legs' and this has been the problem for many years.
Tater: I konw svereal pepole woh aer soppuse ot haev it, and they never pay attention when they are trying to learn something, not that they can't learn it corretly....JMO
Having Dyslexia is not stopping people from learning skills, far from it, those that suffer are by far and large better at hands on tasks than those "normal" people.
As in all walks of life there are those that are lazy whether dyslexic or not, but study has shown that with correct teaching, dyslexia can be used beneficially rather than as an (a?)hindrance. when shown the right path, most will excel if given the opportunity to take advantage of their hidden talent.
yubba: This apart, there is the 'social worker syndrome' where others are making excuses instead of 'smacking legs' and this has been the problem for many years.
I have never heard this before but I love it. It sums a whole statement up in a few words. It's self descriptive. Thanks yubba.
yubba: This is quite a good post, if everyone looks at other peoples postings there are many spelling mistakes, but you always get people giving excuses for others. I went to a state school, left at 15 and started living on my own and earn a living to keep myself. My education was extremely good l feel, on another thread yesterday l posted and sent without reading, which is something l always do, however l fogot an 's' in a word and have not yet stopped thinking about it!.
Some of the threads here are difficult to decipher and one sometimes does not know the context of the question or posting. This apart, there is the 'social worker syndrome' where others are making excuses instead of 'smacking legs' and this has been the problem for many years.
similar syndromes include, but are not limited too.
THE "I don't care syndrome" The "people should accept how I choose to write a word," syndrome The "I'm too lazy to learn," syndrome The "my parents were to busy to care if I learned correctly , syndrone." The "My bad behavoir in class, so I didn't learn want the teacher was trying to teach me," syndrome"
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