A rather fearful question but curious... (79)
Dusty45: A rather fearful question to some, but curious...
I was wondering what goes through the mind of a person
who is consciously ready to make the transition, those
that are ready to pass on.
Do you think that they are not able to focus anymore?
Are they through with manifesting or making things in
this life as we know it?
Do some of you believe that there is life beyond this
world as we understand it?
Or, do you believe that this is the only life experiece
that is available?
I was wondering what goes through the mind of a person
who is consciously ready to make the transition, those
that are ready to pass on.
Do you think that they are not able to focus anymore?
Are they through with manifesting or making things in
this life as we know it?
Do some of you believe that there is life beyond this
world as we understand it?
Or, do you believe that this is the only life experiece
that is available?
On May 7, 1996 my mom walked into the hospital to visit dad. He looked at her and said, "it will be OK mom, I have seen the light"..
He passed the following morning..
I see things in mom today, I did not see a few months ago.
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HJFinAZ: On May 7, 1996 my mom walked into the hospital to visit dad. He looked at her and said, "it will be OK mom, I have seen the light"..
He passed the following morning..
I see things in mom today, I did not see a few months ago.
He passed the following morning..
I see things in mom today, I did not see a few months ago.
I have read and heard things about this subject. Makes you
wonder. I wonder if there could be an awareness, maybe
years ahead of the transition (or end, if that is your
belief)?
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I think if someone is in severe pain they welcome "seeing the light at the end of the tunnel" which in my opinion are the chemicals in their brain taking on new dimensions.
I believe that when we die our spirit becomes a new baby.
However, when the new body dies does it take all the spirits it has accumulated into another body. Just how many spirits can a body hold.
Have you ever felt "I've been here before but I don't know when". I have when I was a child.
I believe that when we die our spirit becomes a new baby.
However, when the new body dies does it take all the spirits it has accumulated into another body. Just how many spirits can a body hold.
Have you ever felt "I've been here before but I don't know when". I have when I was a child.
Dusty45: A rather fearful question to some, but curious...
I was wondering what goes through the mind of a person
who is consciously ready to make the transition, those
that are ready to pass on.
Do you think that they are not able to focus anymore?
Are they through with manifesting or making things in
this life as we know it?
Do some of you believe that there is life beyond this
world as we understand it?
Or, do you believe that this is the only life experiece
that is available?
I was wondering what goes through the mind of a person
who is consciously ready to make the transition, those
that are ready to pass on.
Do you think that they are not able to focus anymore?
Are they through with manifesting or making things in
this life as we know it?
Do some of you believe that there is life beyond this
world as we understand it?
Or, do you believe that this is the only life experiece
that is available?
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snugglebunnie: I think if someone is in severe pain they welcome "seeing the light at the end of the tunnel" which in my opinion are the chemicals in their brain taking on new dimensions.
I believe that when we die our spirit becomes a new baby.
However, when the new body dies does it take all the spirits it has accumulated into another body. Just how many spirits can a body hold.
Have you ever felt "I've been here before but I don't know when". I have when I was a child.
I believe that when we die our spirit becomes a new baby.
However, when the new body dies does it take all the spirits it has accumulated into another body. Just how many spirits can a body hold.
Have you ever felt "I've been here before but I don't know when". I have when I was a child.
How very interesting, snugglebunnie. I, personally, would
not rule out what children are able to conprehend. My
grandchild, Willow, has come up with absolutely amazing
insights. I never discount them.
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"This is quite personal.But,I'm usually up and
about early every morning.So,come early afternoon
I'm beat.So,I take a nap and each time I do,visions
of my past come flooding in;I see things that I've
done and witnessed as a young child and times of
the present.I have visions of my family,my loved ones.
I feel at peace.So,will it be like this as I pass on..?
I hope it does..it's very peaceful."
about early every morning.So,come early afternoon
I'm beat.So,I take a nap and each time I do,visions
of my past come flooding in;I see things that I've
done and witnessed as a young child and times of
the present.I have visions of my family,my loved ones.
I feel at peace.So,will it be like this as I pass on..?
I hope it does..it's very peaceful."
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While you are dying the angel of death sits on your chest and you hardly take a breathe than you cannot breathe again cause he s so heavy that your chest will not rise again.Tht s when you give your last breathe.
As your spirit quits the body and rise,the body will stay there empty.
Nobody can see the angel of death but only the dying peron.Sometimes you can not see him but you ll feel that he sits on your chest.
Just relax and let your spirit quits the building.
As your spirit quits the body and rise,the body will stay there empty.
Nobody can see the angel of death but only the dying peron.Sometimes you can not see him but you ll feel that he sits on your chest.
Just relax and let your spirit quits the building.
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Dusty45: A rather fearful question to some, but curious...
I was wondering what goes through the mind of a person
who is consciously ready to make the transition, those
that are ready to pass on.
Do you think that they are not able to focus anymore?
Are they through with manifesting or making things in
this life as we know it?
Do some of you believe that there is life beyond this
world as we understand it?
Or, do you believe that this is the only life experiece
that is available?
I was wondering what goes through the mind of a person
who is consciously ready to make the transition, those
that are ready to pass on.
Do you think that they are not able to focus anymore?
Are they through with manifesting or making things in
this life as we know it?
Do some of you believe that there is life beyond this
world as we understand it?
Or, do you believe that this is the only life experiece
that is available?
There is nothing!, when you are dead you are dead!, believe me!
If you don't think l am right why has no one come back to tell us what it's like!
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Polarbutterfly: "This is quite personal.But,I'm usually up and
about early every morning.So,come early afternoon
I'm beat.So,I take a nap and each time I do,visions
of my past come flooding in;I see things that I've
done and witnessed as a young child and times of
the present.I have visions of my family,my loved ones.
I feel at peace.So,will it be like this as I pass on..?
I hope it does..it's very peaceful."
about early every morning.So,come early afternoon
I'm beat.So,I take a nap and each time I do,visions
of my past come flooding in;I see things that I've
done and witnessed as a young child and times of
the present.I have visions of my family,my loved ones.
I feel at peace.So,will it be like this as I pass on..?
I hope it does..it's very peaceful."
I have heard......that we really have nothing to fear.
That it has only been our perception of pain or the fear
that we have about it, that makes it so. I've heard of
some people's experience with near death, wherein they simply
observed what was going on with them, felt no pain in the
most extraordinary circumstances of the moment.
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yubba: There is nothing!, when you are dead you are dead!, believe me!
If you don't think l am right why has no one come back to tell us what it's like!
If you don't think l am right why has no one come back to tell us what it's like!
It's possible you could be right about this.
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Dusty45: I have heard......that we really have nothing to fear.
That it has only been our perception of pain or the fear
that we have about it, that makes it so. I've heard of
some people's experience with near death, wherein they simply
observed what was going on with them, felt no pain in the
most extraordinary circumstances of the moment.
That it has only been our perception of pain or the fear
that we have about it, that makes it so. I've heard of
some people's experience with near death, wherein they simply
observed what was going on with them, felt no pain in the
most extraordinary circumstances of the moment.
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littleboy: While you are dying the angel of death sits on your chest and you hardly take a breathe than you cannot breathe again cause he s so heavy that your chest will not rise again.Tht s when you give your last breathe.
As your spirit quits the body and rise,the body will stay there empty.Nobody can see the angel of death but only the dying peron.Sometimes you can not see him but you ll feel that he sits on your chest.
Just relax and let your spirit quits the building.
As your spirit quits the body and rise,the body will stay there empty.Nobody can see the angel of death but only the dying peron.Sometimes you can not see him but you ll feel that he sits on your chest.
Just relax and let your spirit quits the building.
I have watched death, or a transition happen. My mother
was very peaceful. Her breathing slowed and slowed down
without any seemingly stress at all.
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having been under hospice care twice in a two year span, I have been there, ready to die.
My focus was only on one thing. HURRY UP! I want the pain and the wasting to stop. I wasn't concerned about what comes after, I just wanted it to end. No more meds, no more pain, no more pity, no more nothing! Why was this continuing? Why? why? why? I had refused my medications to end it, so they "Baker Acted" me. Locked me up in a pschye ward for three days because they said I was suicidal.
I just didn't want it to go on anymore. I wanted to let go...but you don't have that right in this country.
My focus was only on one thing. HURRY UP! I want the pain and the wasting to stop. I wasn't concerned about what comes after, I just wanted it to end. No more meds, no more pain, no more pity, no more nothing! Why was this continuing? Why? why? why? I had refused my medications to end it, so they "Baker Acted" me. Locked me up in a pschye ward for three days because they said I was suicidal.
I just didn't want it to go on anymore. I wanted to let go...but you don't have that right in this country.
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Dusty45: I have watched death, or a transition happen. My mother
was very peaceful. Her breathing slowed and slowed down
without any seemingly stress at all.
was very peaceful. Her breathing slowed and slowed down
without any seemingly stress at all.
That means she was a good womman.What i ve told was for the sinners.The spirit doesnt want to leave because the destination is hell.That s why the Angel of death sits on the chest to get it out.
Your mother s spirit was ready to go and she died peacefully,i can say.
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pretzelman: having been under hospice care twice in a two year span, I have been there, ready to die.My focus was only on one thing. HURRY UP! I want the pain and the wasting to stop. I wasn't concerned about what comes after, I just wanted it to end. No more meds, no more pain, no more pity, no more nothing! Why was this continuing? Why? why? why? I had refused my medications to end it, so they "Baker Acted" me. Locked me up in a pschye ward for three days because they said I was suicidal.
I just didn't want it to go on anymore. I wanted to let go...but you don't have that right in this country.
I just didn't want it to go on anymore. I wanted to let go...but you don't have that right in this country.
hmmm, I'm really sorry that you experienced so much
pain, Ship.
I'm very glad that you are here, though and are having
the love that you deserve, now.
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All anyone can do is give their personal "views" on it. The fact is no one really has the freedom to meditate as a result of all that gadgetry out there (including this computer) along with mobile phones featuring all the latest gimmicks, newspapers, media mass-conditioning, pressures of trying to survive in the material world and God knows what else. If you were to ask a GENUINE Tibetan guru your question you'd receive a far different reply that what you'd get by asking anyone caught up with the above. We are born into a physical world of resistance with three layers of subjectivity and a whole load of psychological conditioning to break free of first, but how many seriously make this attempt? It's easier to talk "about it" over computers and mobiles, always remaining attached to the people and world we are identified with. In fact the human mind is so cunning it can spend endless hours seriously debating over how it has to be dissolved before any real tuth can be attained, but you try actually getting rid of it. To leave this world of familiarity is something only attained by the few (statistically), while the rest remain caught up with the above. "Death" is always pushed further away into the (conceptual) "future" as something that happens "later", while in the meantime we remain attached to, and identified with, what the Tibetan gurus call "the useless doings of this life". And at the end of the day what else could they possibly be but "useless". The only person who can really answer your question with any measure of authority is someone who has already broken free of all the above obstacles on the path by having already gone through the inevitable "dark night of the soul", whether by severe trauma or a very near death experience (or of course through meditation).
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littleboy: That means she was a good womman.What i ve told was for the sinners.The spirit doesnt want to leave because the destination is hell.That s why the Angel of death sits on the chest to get it out.
Your mother s spirit was ready to go and she died peacefully,i can say.
Your mother s spirit was ready to go and she died peacefully,i can say.
In all honesty, I, with all my crazy perceptions, do not
believe in hell. (unless it is the war, conflict, anger,
disruption that we have here.) But, maybe if we hold that
belief, then, who knows, it could transend with us...?
So, like a silly one, I choose not to believe in hell.
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sambhava: All anyone can do is give their personal "views" on it. The fact is no one really has the freedom to meditate as a result of all that gadgetry out there (including this computer) along with mobile phones featuring all the latest gimmicks, newspapers, media mass-conditioning, pressures of trying to survive in the material world and God knows what else. If you were to ask a GENUINE Tibetan guru your question you'd receive a far different reply that what you'd get by asking anyone caught up with the above. We are born into a physical world of resistance with three layers of subjectivity and a whole load of psychological conditioning to break free of first, but how many seriously make this attempt? It's easier to talk "about it" over computers and mobiles, always remaining attached to the people and world we are identified with. In fact the human mind is so cunning it can spend endless hours seriously debating over how it has to be dissolved before any real tuth can be attained, but you try actually getting rid of it. To leave this world of familiarity is something only attained by the few (statistically), while the rest remain caught up with the above. "Death" is always pushed further away into the (conceptual) "future" as something that happens "later", while in the meantime we remain attached to, and identified with, what the Tibetan gurus call "the useless doings of this life". And at the end of the day what else could they possibly be but "useless". The only person who can really answer your question with any measure of authority is someone who has already broken free of all the above obstacles on the path by having already gone through the inevitable "dark night of the soul", whether by severe trauma or a very near death experience (or of course through meditation).
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littleboy: That means she was a good womman.What i ve told was for the sinners.The spirit doesnt want to leave because the destination is hell.That s why the Angel of death sits on the chest to get it out.
Your mother s spirit was ready to go and she died peacefully,i can say.
Your mother s spirit was ready to go and she died peacefully,i can say.
Mom's whole life was dedicated to doing good. She taught by
her actions. She gave without wanting nothing.
ty for your thoughts on the subject.
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I'm glad it wasn't your time. WE need you. 
pretzelman: having been under hospice care twice in a two year span, I have been there, ready to die.My focus was only on one thing. HURRY UP! I want the pain and the wasting to stop. I wasn't concerned about what comes after, I just wanted it to end. No more meds, no more pain, no more pity, no more nothing! Why was this continuing? Why? why? why? I had refused my medications to end it, so they "Baker Acted" me. Locked me up in a pschye ward for three days because they said I was suicidal.
I just didn't want it to go on anymore. I wanted to let go...but you don't have that right in this country.
I just didn't want it to go on anymore. I wanted to let go...but you don't have that right in this country.
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I was wondering what goes through the mind of a person
who is consciously ready to make the transition, those
that are ready to pass on.
Do you think that they are not able to focus anymore?
Are they through with manifesting or making things in
this life as we know it?
Do some of you believe that there is life beyond this
world as we understand it?
Or, do you believe that this is the only life experiece
that is available?