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Feb 15, 2009 3:10 PM CST GOD
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
Happily4sure: He is the biggest crack pot going.


What do you base your conclusions on?
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Feb 15, 2009 4:50 PM CST GOD
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: I'm not interested in promises. I'm interested in results. I get results from me, nobody else. Any salvation I acquire in this life I get from me, and no-one else. This is the essence of his lesson for me.


And this is how we are Gods...

Belief in oneself...not some fictitious character with a joystick in the heavens...

Rilly mentioned something about the separation...

True, I really sense that we are separated from our higher power but still connected at the same time...it's the waterdrop separated from the Sea analogy...We are the sea, but a waterdrop in this world to experience, observe, and overcome karma as earthly beings...well, that's how I see it.
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Feb 15, 2009 5:03 PM CST GOD
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
StressFree: And this is how we are Gods...

Belief in oneself...not some fictitious character with a joystick in the heavens...

Rilly mentioned something about the separation...

True, I really sense that we are separated from our higher power but still connected at the same time...it's the waterdrop separated from the Sea analogy...We are the sea, but a waterdrop in this world to experience, observe, and overcome karma as earthly beings...well, that's how I see it.


Hey tony. wave

I don't believe in that separation. I believe the dichotomy is all in definition. People want to believe there is a separation, because then they can separate themselves from consequence, and thus, from responsibility. The Devil made me do it, It's God's will. No, "you" did it, and completely via "your" will. Stop pointing fingers.

My previous post may seem to say that I'm blaming my life and its events on God. I'm not. I blame them on nothing. That's just the way things are.

I believe all my previous pain in life was caused by trying to understand what God was telling me. He wasn't saying anything because He's simply not there. Once I accepted that, I could deal with taking responsibility for the things I could change, accepting the things I can't, and trying to learn the difference between the two. Wisdom starts where faith ends.
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Feb 15, 2009 6:06 PM CST GOD
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Hey tony.

I don't believe in that separation. I believe the dichotomy is all in definition. People want to believe there is a separation, because then they can separate themselves from consequence, and thus, from responsibility. The Devil made me do it, It's God's will. No, "you" did it, and completely via "your" will. Stop pointing fingers.

My previous post may seem to say that I'm blaming my life and its events on God. I'm not. I blame them on nothing. That's just the way things are.

I believe all my previous pain in life was caused by trying to understand what God was telling me. He wasn't saying anything because He's simply not there. Once I accepted that, I could deal with taking responsibility for the things I could change, accepting the things I can't, and trying to learn the difference between the two. Wisdom starts where faith ends.


What's up brother!

I fully understand what you are saying and I did not perceive your post as you blaming God for anything. I know you pretty well and I know you would not do that cause you don't believe in God.

I was just pointing out that there is another splinter of our soul that is much more evolved than the one we are experiencing right now in earthly form. Nothing about consequences, just to live life in earthly form.
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Feb 15, 2009 6:11 PM CST GOD
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
RillyNiceGuy: Salvation of the Bible is the saving from destruction in Revelation. Any other use is not my subject of use.

Speaking of God!)
If a son chooses to go his own way and do his own ways. The father cannot be expected to be blamed for the results. The bad things in this life are due to man's ways and not the true God's. My friend...with all my heart I say to you....you have not known the father. He will not hear those who are doing their own ways and praying to another God.(not speaking of Buddha) Man has made their own God and he does not exist and can do nothing. You are mad at this man's God. I don't blame you....man has made a false God and a false way.....that has no answers because it is dead.

There is a real God and he will hear you if you are seeking him in truth and of your own free will. But you must remove the wall between you and him. I have felt as you abandoned by my God....but in studying, I found that it was I who made the wall. In obeying I found I was heard.

You gave twenty five years to a God other than the God of the Bible. I beg you to understand this for your sake. To relieve the pain of rejection by a God other than the true father. He has never abandoned you. He has left you alone as you do your own way. I am so sorry the false teachings have hurt you so. They did me also....but I found my way through it. I am far from being good but I do know the path.....I pray that God will allow me to return to it. Stay out of churches until you find the true Church of God that keeps all the commandments in their true form.

If I can help...I will!


I have found truth in the form of Buddha's teachings. If the father you speak of truly speaks to me, then he speaks to me through the Lotus Sutra. thumbs up

I'm not against looking to a higher power for guidance. I have no problem with the teachings of Jesus. They have merit as the truth of consequence, spoken by an emanation of the eternal Buddha using expedient means and simile and parable appropriate to the time and the understanding of his audience. Its his fan clubs I can do without. On that note I will say no more on the subject. cool
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Feb 15, 2009 6:13 PM CST GOD
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: Hey tony.

I don't believe in that separation. I believe the dichotomy is all in definition. People want to believe there is a separation, because then they can separate themselves from consequence, and thus, from responsibility. The Devil made me do it, It's God's will. No, "you" did it, and completely via "your" will. Stop pointing fingers.

My previous post may seem to say that I'm blaming my life and its events on God. I'm not. I blame them on nothing. That's just the way things are.

I believe all my previous pain in life was caused by trying to understand what God was telling me. He wasn't saying anything because He's simply not there. Once I accepted that, I could deal with taking responsibility for the things I could change, accepting the things I can't, and trying to learn the difference between the two. Wisdom starts where faith ends.


The Bible plainly states that your sins have seperated you from him. If you choose to sin then your father is another and not God. If you choose the way....then your a child by faith and you are heard. Did not Christ not say to the Temple leaders....you are of your father the Devil, he was a murderer from the beginning. Their father was not God, because they had made another their father.

Whom you obey is your God (and your father). If you obeyed a false God by false teachings of man. Then you have a false father that cannot hear anything ever.
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Feb 15, 2009 6:17 PM CST GOD
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
RillyNiceGuy: The Bible plainly states that your sins have seperated you from him.


I don't agree. I'd say our sins separate us from our true selves and creates a really bad vibrational frequency in our energies/soul.

That the part of the Bible that I am not buying...the part that was manipulated for us to rely on an outside source instead of within...

This God that is talked about in the Bible is supposed to be our inner selves...in touch with our divine power that we have so we can create what we want after we've evolved and have true understanding, love, unselfishness, and wisdom.
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Feb 15, 2009 6:18 PM CST GOD
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
My friend,

You are fine with your belief and I know that you will be okay in God's plan in your own time. I wish you peace and good things.

You have my respect,

Len

Please never include me in those false teaching fan clubs....I stay away from them also.




Galactic_bodhi: I have found truth in the form of Buddha's teachings. If the father you speak of truly speaks to me, then he speaks to me through the Lotus Sutra.

I'm not against looking to a higher power for guidance. I have no problem with the teachings of Jesus. They have merit as the truth of consequence, spoken by an emanation of the eternal Buddha using expedient means and simile and parable appropriate to the time and the understanding of his audience. Its his fan clubs I can do without. On that note I will say no more on the subject.
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Feb 15, 2009 6:21 PM CST GOD
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
StressFree: I don't agree. I'd say our sins separate us from our true selves and creates a really bad vibrational frequency in our energies/soul.

That the part of the Bible that I am not buying...the part that was manipulated for us to rely on an outside source instead of within...

This God that is talked about in the Bible is supposed to be our inner selves...in touch with our divine power that we have so we can create what we want after we've evolved and have true understanding, love, unselfishness, and wisdom.



You are comfortable with your beliefs.....live in peace and good life to you.

With respect,

Len
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Feb 15, 2009 6:22 PM CST GOD
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
RillyNiceGuy: The Bible plainly states that your sins have seperated you from him. If you choose to sin then your father is another and not God. If you choose the way....then your a child by faith and you are heard. Did not Christ not say to the Temple leaders....you are of your father the Devil, he was a murderer from the beginning. Their father was not God, because they had made another their father.

Whom you obey is your God (and your father). If you obeyed a false God by false teachings of man. Then you have a false father that cannot hear anything ever.


When God wants to have a conversation with me, I'm right here. This is like a bank. I'll need ID. grin
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Feb 15, 2009 6:25 PM CST GOD
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Of course, Len. I'd never include you in my regard with the Church of Elvis! grinhandshake
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Feb 15, 2009 6:33 PM CST GOD
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
RillyNiceGuy: You are comfortable with your beliefs.....live in peace and good life to you.

With respect,

Len


Thanks Len. Same to you my brother...
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Feb 15, 2009 6:33 PM CST GOD
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Dusty45: God is optional.



What a lovely way of putting it !...............thumbs up devil
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Feb 15, 2009 11:33 PM CST GOD
berickson
bericksonbericksonRockford, Illinois USA22 Posts
I know GOD is my creator, but if you want to go with science and take their word that man evolves from monkeys the go ahead with that one.professor teddybear
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Feb 16, 2009 1:06 AM CST GOD
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
berickson: I know GOD is my creator, but if you want to go with science and take their word that man evolves from monkeys the go ahead with that one.


Prefer to believe I evolved from a Polski Kielbasa ..........roll eyes
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Feb 16, 2009 1:20 AM CST GOD
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Denying God's existance is like a book claiming to have no author, or a child claiming to have had no parents.

Man and his science have discovered many things but they haven't even begun to approach ALL knowledge.
God holds the rest.

Man's love, at its best, is still partial and biased.
God IS the perfect love that we cannot attain to.

Man's heart is full of deceit.
God IS truth.

Man has a physical body in which his spirit resides.
God's spirit fills the entire universe but is not contained in it.

We cannot really even comprehend "God".
He's far too big for our finite minds.

So the light shone in the darkness and the darkness couldn't even comprehend it.

That's why the word had to be made flesh.
So that we could see the light.

But you can't see it if you're looking the other way.
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Feb 16, 2009 1:41 AM CST GOD
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Dusty45:
The universe is living through you at this moment. With or without belief in God... The operating system of the universe applies to everyone alike, and it works along principles that do not require your cooperation. However, if you decide to lead a consciously spiritual life, a change occurs. The principles of the operating system, which means the rules of creation, become personal."



I can agree with the above, but it falls short in comparing "God" to an operating system.

Can you imagine an operating system that has no author?
Especially one that runs the entire universe?

God is not just the operating system.
He's not just the computer.
He's the designer and builder of the hardware and the author of the software.
He's also the operator who runs the machinery and the power source.

We, on the other hand, are just floppy disks with a small amount of temporary data. We will be erased and recycled momentarily.
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Feb 16, 2009 7:15 AM CST GOD
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
Happily4sure: He is the biggest crack pot going.


Try informing yourself before speaking.
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Book Review
By Frederic and Mary Ann Brussat

The Third Jesus
The Christ We Cannot Ignore
Deepak Chopra

"I believe that Jesus was not only real, but perhaps the most significant person in Western history," writes bestselling author Deepak Chopra in this amazing and thought-provoking book. He identifies three Jesuses: the historical man of flesh and blood who lived more than 2,000 years ago; the figure created by the church and its dogma and doctrines; and the radical mystical teacher who set out to transform the world. The last Jesus is "The Christ We Cannot Ignore" who lives in "our own awareness at the level of God-consciousness." Chopra sets out in this ambitious work to explain the implications of this third Jesus who exists beyond time and yet within each of us.

Jesus was very clear about the essentials of the spiritual life and they are in his teachings:


• Meditation — Going within to contact the silent mind.
• Contemplation — Reflecting on the truth.
• Revelation — Receiving spiritual insight.
• Prayer — Asking for higher guidance.
• Grace — Taking God into one's heart.
• Love — Participating in divine love.
• Faith — Believing in a higher reality.
• Salvation — Realizing that you have a place in higher reality.
• Unity — Becoming one with God.

Chopra moves on in "Realizing What Jesus Said" to discuss various verses in the New Testament that reflect the wisdom of this seer, including know thyself, God values you, be humble, know where the heart is, be persistent on the path, and much more. In the most interesting of these passages is Chopra's treatment of Jesus' version of karma:

• Every action leads to a result.
• Good actions have good results, bad actions, bad results.
• Every action is seen and weighed. Nothing can be hidden or kept secret.
• If your actions are good, you will grow spiritually.
• As you grow, your thoughts and wishes will manifest in the material world. Karma operates faster and more consciously.
• God's intention is to make your actions turn out for the best. His ultimate concern is to bring you into the Kingdom, where the soul is freed from the law of Karma.

It is refreshing to see the idea of you will reap what you sow spelled out in this interpretation. It opens the door to more cross-fertilization between Christianity and other world religions. Chopra recognizes the contemporary relevance of Jesus' message:

"The real Jesus is as available today as he ever was, perhaps more so. Instead of relying on faith alone, we can go beyond worship to find a body of teachings consistent with the world's wisdom traditions, a corroboration in Christian terms that higher consciousness is real and open to all."

In the section on "Taking Jesus as Your Teacher," Chopra presents Jesus as the initiator of a new path of enlightenment that offers personal transformation. His 15 Steps to God-Consciousness include daily exercises based on verses from the New Testament, such as "For my yoke is easy and my burden is light" or "ask and you will receive." These are followed by some stimulating meditations on keeping it simple, the process of spiritual growth, why we resist spirit, how the path opens, and the tradition of unity. Chopra ends with an essay "What Would Jesus Do," that salutes him as a person who valued courage, truth-telling, sympathy and tolerance, love and forgiveness.

The Third Jesus is another volume promoting an interspirituality for the twenty-first century that tears down the walls between East and West and reveals how all the world's religions encourage the practice of transformation.
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Mar 12, 2009 11:48 AM CST GOD
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
Dusty45: Try informing yourself before speaking.
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Book Review
By Frederic and Mary Ann Brussat

The Third Jesus
The Christ We Cannot Ignore
Deepak Chopra

"I believe that Jesus was not only real, but perhaps the most significant person in Western history," writes bestselling author Deepak Chopra in this amazing and thought-provoking book. He identifies three Jesuses: the historical man of flesh and blood who lived more than 2,000 years ago; the figure created by the church and its dogma and doctrines; and the radical mystical teacher who set out to transform the world. The last Jesus is "The Christ We Cannot Ignore" who lives in "our own awareness at the level of God-consciousness." Chopra sets out in this ambitious work to explain the implications of this third Jesus who exists beyond time and yet within each of us.

Jesus was very clear about the essentials of the spiritual life and they are in his teachings:• Meditation — Going within to contact the silent mind.
• Contemplation — Reflecting on the truth.
• Revelation — Receiving spiritual insight.
• Prayer — Asking for higher guidance.
• Grace — Taking God into one's heart.
• Love — Participating in divine love.
• Faith — Believing in a higher reality.
• Salvation — Realizing that you have a place in higher reality.
• Unity — Becoming one with God.

Chopra moves on in "Realizing What Jesus Said" to discuss various verses in the New Testament that reflect the wisdom of this seer, including know thyself, God values you, be humble, know where the heart is, be persistent on the path, and much more. In the most interesting of these passages is Chopra's treatment of Jesus' version of karma:

• Every action leads to a result.
• Good actions have good results, bad actions, bad results.
• Every action is seen and weighed. Nothing can be hidden or kept secret.
• If your actions are good, you will grow spiritually.
• As you grow, your thoughts and wishes will manifest in the material world. Karma operates faster and more consciously.
• God's intention is to make your actions turn out for the best. His ultimate concern is to bring you into the Kingdom, where the soul is freed from the law of Karma.

It is refreshing to see the idea of you will reap what you sow spelled out in this interpretation. It opens the door to more cross-fertilization between Christianity and other world religions. Chopra recognizes the contemporary relevance of Jesus' message:

"The real Jesus is as available today as he ever was, perhaps more so. Instead of relying on faith alone, we can go beyond worship to find a body of teachings consistent with the world's wisdom traditions, a corroboration in Christian terms that higher consciousness is real and open to all."

In the section on "Taking Jesus as Your Teacher," Chopra presents Jesus as the initiator of a new path of enlightenment that offers personal transformation. His 15 Steps to God-Consciousness include daily exercises based on verses from the New Testament, such as "For my yoke is easy and my burden is light" or "ask and you will receive." These are followed by some stimulating meditations on keeping it simple, the process of spiritual growth, why we resist spirit, how the path opens, and the tradition of unity. Chopra ends with an essay "What Would Jesus Do," that salutes him as a person who valued courage, truth-telling, sympathy and tolerance, love and forgiveness.

The Third Jesus is another volume promoting an interspirituality for the twenty-first century that tears down the walls between East and West and reveals how all the world's religions encourage the practice of transformation.
Deepak Choppra is still marketed here ? he is the authorized guy to define god ? doh
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Mar 12, 2009 11:49 AM CST GOD
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
dbills: (1) God is not a supernatural being, or an alien from outer space that sits upon a throne wielding judgement on those who's characters fall short of perfection, and whos names are not found in some alleged book of life.
(2) God is not one who favors one race of people, and/or groups of those who follow a religion that offers redemption through a belief in one man as the son of God, or any other belief system that offers immortality to those who try to follow unatainable guidlines that were formulated by those who seek to control the majority of the populous with the use of fear, self denial and conjecture based on a completely unprovable and unrealistic ancient mystisizm.
(3) God doesn't forgive us for our wrong doings, nor does God reward us for our obedience. GOD is completely neutral in every mater, and doesn't destinguish between right and wrong.
God is the universes, and all the matter that exists there in. We are but one of the many conscious expressions of God in this universe and all parallel universes in existence. We are all the sons and daughters of God, and are equal in the sight of creation. Everything that exists is of God and in God. We are not the rulers of this Earth and everything in it, we are just a part of it, here to harmonize with and enjoy all the many wonders that it offers us. We are here to grow as citizens of the universe.
We come to this world with an energy essence that can grow with positive actions or be depleted by negative actions. It is up to us to grow through positive action and overcome our character defects to limit the effects of our negative actions. We should strive to leave this life with more positive energy than what we came here with. In doing so, we set ourselves up for advancement to the next level of existence. A surplus of positive energy essence enables us to advance to a higher plane of existence. Negative energy depletes the positive energy essence and can cause a regression back to a lower plane of existence. Look at the laws of nature, all things have an origin, go through a life cycle, and are recycled back to the origin, The process is never ending. Our existence is no different, all things must follow the laws of nature, there are no exceptions. We live, we die, our energy essence is recycled, and we are born into a new existence, either higher or lower depending on our actions in our previous life time, and we are not limited to this world alone.




Thanks for sharing you views. Are they based on fact...or your opinion????
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