ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL. (595)
chris27292729: The one who has covered the child molesting scandal,say bravo to your neighbouring speaking German.
He's your king according to your running mate.
Lerie2010: Pointless saying anything to you .. I was speaking of the number of Greek Popes in the history of the Roman Catholic Church ... think you knew that but just love to try to be smart
Some CS members have praised as smart, and he thinks he is.-
Lerie2010: Pointless saying anything to you .. I was speaking of the number of Greek Popes in the history of the Roman Catholic Church ... think you knew that but just love to try to be smart
Albert,hasn't been praised unfortunately,but he is trying very hard to prove,he is.- 
chris27292729: Albert,hasn't been praised unfortunately,but he is trying very hard to prove,he is.-
chris27292729: Albert,hasn't been praised unfortunately,but he is trying very hard to prove,he is.-
Already did Chris. Try to catch up as I'm many moves ahead of you and your silly ilk.
Albertaghost: Already did Chris. Try to catch up as I'm many moves ahead of you and your silly ilk.
Good for you keep running. The first one is ahead of you,try to overtake him.- Albertaghost: He certainly is.
You boosting his ego???Good,what are they friends for.he is your friend right????
chris27292729: The one who doesn't know what he is(German or Jewish,or both) ,in the country he is living in,knows his Geagraphy well. You do not deserve a barf.-
I suppose they are searching "christianism" in wikipedia.
Conrad73:
".... the territory of the Palestinians does not constitute a state...because under the Oslo Accords and subsequent agreements the PA has limited and even temporary authority. In no sense does the PA have complete governmental control over a permanent population, nor does it have control over a defined territory....you need to read,Dudes!
".... the territory of the Palestinians does not constitute a state...because under the Oslo Accords and subsequent agreements the PA has limited and even temporary authority. In no sense does the PA have complete governmental control over a permanent population, nor does it have control over a defined territory....you need to read,Dudes!
And you need to learn to think rationally and speak honestly Conrad.
States don't derive their just powers from the UN nor from the Oslo accords. They derive their powers from the consent of the governed.
And certainly you are not suggesting that the indigenous people of Palestine have no rights to a state in their own natural homeland where they have lived for untold centuries.
As for the Oslo accords. They were not a negotiation between Israel and Palestine about Palestine's right to statehood.
Israel has absolutely nothing to say whatsoever on that point.
The accords (agreements) were a truce. An agreement of non-hostility to allow Palestine the opportunity to exercise its human rights and to develop its infrastructure in preparation for statehood which was to be pronounced no later than 5 years after the signing of the agreement.
Just as Israel declared itself to be a state in 1948 without any recognition whatsoever at the moment of the declaration, the Palestinians can declare themselves to be a state whenever they like.
And by the way, it was Israel, (not Palestine) who broke all its promises and therefore rendered the Oslo accords null and void.
Don't you remember that not long after the accords were signed, the right wing extremists of Israel killed their president, Rabin, specifically because he had signed the accords.
And he was replaced by Netanyahu an extremist hawk.
In a 2001 video, Netanyahu, unaware he was being recorded, bragged about how he broke the accords.
"They asked me before the election if I'd honor [the Oslo accords]... I said I would, but I'm going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the '67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what "defined military zones" were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as I'm concerned the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue."
Netanyahu then explained how he conditioned his signing of the 1997 Hebron agreement on American consent that there be no withdrawals from "specified military locations," and insisted he be allowed to specify which areas constituted a military location - such as the whole of the Jordan Valley.
"Why is that important? Because from that moment on I stopped the Oslo Accords," Netanyahu affirmed.
So by his own admission Netanyahu scuttled the Oslo Accords.
It's ridiculous for Israel to now try to claim that the Oslo accords somehow limit Palestine's right to statehood.
Among the terms of the Oslo Accords, Israel was to withdraw from all Palestinian territory and a Palestinian State was to be declared no later than 5 years after the signing of the accords.
That would have been 1999.
Jeremiah against theocracy (1:1-25:38). Would he agree the Israeli borders never expressed publicly by today zionists?
Conrad73:
...More recently, in deciding issues relating to the breakup of Yugoslavia, The Arbitration Commission of the Conference on Yugoslavia (colloquially known as the Badinter Arbitration Committee, 1991) adopted similar requirements....
...More recently, in deciding issues relating to the breakup of Yugoslavia, The Arbitration Commission of the Conference on Yugoslavia (colloquially known as the Badinter Arbitration Committee, 1991) adopted similar requirements....
Boy am I glad you mentioned the breakup of Yugoslavia in this context. I just watched a very good documentary all about that and I was wondering how to work it into the conversation.
Yes indeed there are a lot of parallels between Yugoslavia and Palestine.
In both cases the west intentionally aggravated long dormant ancient hostilities, armed both sides, gave monetary incentives to the hawks on both sides, and thereby created a regional war. In both cases the ultimate goal to divide and conquer the area. And both will end up with a multinational occupational army permanently ruling over the locals (on both sides) to "keep the peace".
The following film views the situation in Yugoslavia from the viewpoint of the local people, rather than the viewpoint of the Western warmongers who created the war for their own colonialist purposes.
The Weight of Chains is a full length film (2 hours) distributed free.
Watch it here.
RayfromUSA:
Yes indeed there are a lot of parallels between Yugoslavia and Palestine.
In both cases the west intentionally aggravated long dormant ancient hostilities, armed both sides, gave monetary incentives to the hawks on both sides, and thereby created a regional war. In both cases the ultimate goal to divide and conquer the area. And both will end up with a multinational occupational army permanently ruling over the locals (on both sides) to "keep the peace".
Yes indeed there are a lot of parallels between Yugoslavia and Palestine.
In both cases the west intentionally aggravated long dormant ancient hostilities, armed both sides, gave monetary incentives to the hawks on both sides, and thereby created a regional war. In both cases the ultimate goal to divide and conquer the area. And both will end up with a multinational occupational army permanently ruling over the locals (on both sides) to "keep the peace".
And especially in the war in Yugoslavia, very smart to recognize States before defining its borders. The boundaries then decide through wars.
RayfromUSA: And you need to learn to think rationally and speak honestly Conrad.
States don't derive their just powers from the UN nor from the Oslo accords. They derive their powers from the consent of the governed.
And certainly you are not suggesting that the indigenous people of Palestine have no rights to a state in their own natural homeland where they have lived for untold centuries.
As for the Oslo accords. They were not a negotiation between Israel and Palestine about Palestine's right to statehood.
Israel has absolutely nothing to say whatsoever on that point.
The accords (agreements) were a truce. An agreement of non-hostility to allow Palestine the opportunity to exercise its human rights and to develop its infrastructure in preparation for statehood which was to be pronounced no later than 5 years after the signing of the agreement.
Just as Israel declared itself to be a state in 1948 without any recognition whatsoever at the moment of the declaration, the Palestinians can declare themselves to be a state whenever they like.
And by the way, it was Israel, (not Palestine) who broke all its promises and therefore rendered the Oslo accords null and void.
Don't you remember that not long after the accords were signed, the right wing extremists of Israel killed their president, Rabin, specifically because he had signed the accords.
And he was replaced by Netanyahu an extremist hawk.
In a 2001 video, Netanyahu, unaware he was being recorded, bragged about how he broke the accords.
"They asked me before the election if I'd honor [the Oslo accords]... I said I would, but I'm going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the '67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what "defined military zones" were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as I'm concerned the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue."
Netanyahu then explained how he conditioned his signing of the 1997 Hebron agreement on American consent that there be no withdrawals from "specified military locations," and insisted he be allowed to specify which areas constituted a military location - such as the whole of the Jordan Valley.
"Why is that important? Because from that moment on I stopped the Oslo Accords," Netanyahu affirmed.
So by his own admission Netanyahu scuttled the Oslo Accords.
It's ridiculous for Israel to now try to claim that the Oslo accords somehow limit Palestine's right to statehood.
Among the terms of the Oslo Accords, Israel was to withdraw from all Palestinian territory and a Palestinian State was to be declared no later than 5 years after the signing of the accords.
That would have been 1999.
Very soon you will be accused of conspiracy by the gang,that the Israelis are for peace,the other side is not.States don't derive their just powers from the UN nor from the Oslo accords. They derive their powers from the consent of the governed.
And certainly you are not suggesting that the indigenous people of Palestine have no rights to a state in their own natural homeland where they have lived for untold centuries.
As for the Oslo accords. They were not a negotiation between Israel and Palestine about Palestine's right to statehood.
Israel has absolutely nothing to say whatsoever on that point.
The accords (agreements) were a truce. An agreement of non-hostility to allow Palestine the opportunity to exercise its human rights and to develop its infrastructure in preparation for statehood which was to be pronounced no later than 5 years after the signing of the agreement.
Just as Israel declared itself to be a state in 1948 without any recognition whatsoever at the moment of the declaration, the Palestinians can declare themselves to be a state whenever they like.
And by the way, it was Israel, (not Palestine) who broke all its promises and therefore rendered the Oslo accords null and void.
Don't you remember that not long after the accords were signed, the right wing extremists of Israel killed their president, Rabin, specifically because he had signed the accords.
And he was replaced by Netanyahu an extremist hawk.
In a 2001 video, Netanyahu, unaware he was being recorded, bragged about how he broke the accords.
"They asked me before the election if I'd honor [the Oslo accords]... I said I would, but I'm going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the '67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what "defined military zones" were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as I'm concerned the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue."
Netanyahu then explained how he conditioned his signing of the 1997 Hebron agreement on American consent that there be no withdrawals from "specified military locations," and insisted he be allowed to specify which areas constituted a military location - such as the whole of the Jordan Valley.
"Why is that important? Because from that moment on I stopped the Oslo Accords," Netanyahu affirmed.
So by his own admission Netanyahu scuttled the Oslo Accords.
It's ridiculous for Israel to now try to claim that the Oslo accords somehow limit Palestine's right to statehood.
Among the terms of the Oslo Accords, Israel was to withdraw from all Palestinian territory and a Palestinian State was to be declared no later than 5 years after the signing of the accords.
That would have been 1999.
RayfromUSA: Boy am I glad you mentioned the breakup of Yugoslavia in this context. I just watched a very good documentary all about that and I was wondering how to work it into the conversation.
Yes indeed there are a lot of parallels between Yugoslavia and Palestine.
In both cases the west intentionally aggravated long dormant ancient hostilities, armed both sides, gave monetary incentives to the hawks on both sides, and thereby created a regional war. In both cases the ultimate goal to divide and conquer the area. And both will end up with a multinational occupational army permanently ruling over the locals (on both sides) to "keep the peace".
The following film views the situation in Yugoslavia from the viewpoint of the local people, rather than the viewpoint of the Western warmongers who created the war for their own colonialist purposes.
The Weight of Chains is a full length film (2 hours) distributed free.
Watch it here.
Yes indeed there are a lot of parallels between Yugoslavia and Palestine.
In both cases the west intentionally aggravated long dormant ancient hostilities, armed both sides, gave monetary incentives to the hawks on both sides, and thereby created a regional war. In both cases the ultimate goal to divide and conquer the area. And both will end up with a multinational occupational army permanently ruling over the locals (on both sides) to "keep the peace".
The following film views the situation in Yugoslavia from the viewpoint of the local people, rather than the viewpoint of the Western warmongers who created the war for their own colonialist purposes.
The Weight of Chains is a full length film (2 hours) distributed free.
Watch it here.
Ray,Ray,Ray!Context,Mister!
RayfromUSA: And you need to learn to think rationally and speak honestly Conrad.
States don't derive their just powers from the UN nor from the Oslo accords. They derive their powers from the consent of the governed.
And certainly you are not suggesting that the indigenous people of Palestine have no rights to a state in their own natural homeland where they have lived for untold centuries.
As for the Oslo accords. They were not a negotiation between Israel and Palestine about Palestine's right to statehood.
Israel has absolutely nothing to say whatsoever on that point.
The accords (agreements) were a truce. An agreement of non-hostility to allow Palestine the opportunity to exercise its human rights and to develop its infrastructure in preparation for statehood which was to be pronounced no later than 5 years after the signing of the agreement.
Just as Israel declared itself to be a state in 1948 without any recognition whatsoever at the moment of the declaration, the Palestinians can declare themselves to be a state whenever they like.
And by the way, it was Israel, (not Palestine) who broke all its promises and therefore rendered the Oslo accords null and void.
Don't you remember that not long after the accords were signed, the right wing extremists of Israel killed their president, Rabin, specifically because he had signed the accords.
And he was replaced by Netanyahu an extremist hawk.
In a 2001 video, Netanyahu, unaware he was being recorded, bragged about how he broke the accords.
"They asked me before the election if I'd honor [the Oslo accords]... I said I would, but I'm going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the '67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what "defined military zones" were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as I'm concerned the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue."
Netanyahu then explained how he conditioned his signing of the 1997 Hebron agreement on American consent that there be no withdrawals from "specified military locations," and insisted he be allowed to specify which areas constituted a military location - such as the whole of the Jordan Valley.
"Why is that important? Because from that moment on I stopped the Oslo Accords," Netanyahu affirmed.
So by his own admission Netanyahu scuttled the Oslo Accords.
It's ridiculous for Israel to now try to claim that the Oslo accords somehow limit Palestine's right to statehood.
Among the terms of the Oslo Accords, Israel was to withdraw from all Palestinian territory and a Palestinian State was to be declared no later than 5 years after the signing of the accords.
That would have been 1999.
Ray,I suggest you read the requirements for a State again,as set forth in the Montevideo Convention!States don't derive their just powers from the UN nor from the Oslo accords. They derive their powers from the consent of the governed.
And certainly you are not suggesting that the indigenous people of Palestine have no rights to a state in their own natural homeland where they have lived for untold centuries.
As for the Oslo accords. They were not a negotiation between Israel and Palestine about Palestine's right to statehood.
Israel has absolutely nothing to say whatsoever on that point.
The accords (agreements) were a truce. An agreement of non-hostility to allow Palestine the opportunity to exercise its human rights and to develop its infrastructure in preparation for statehood which was to be pronounced no later than 5 years after the signing of the agreement.
Just as Israel declared itself to be a state in 1948 without any recognition whatsoever at the moment of the declaration, the Palestinians can declare themselves to be a state whenever they like.
And by the way, it was Israel, (not Palestine) who broke all its promises and therefore rendered the Oslo accords null and void.
Don't you remember that not long after the accords were signed, the right wing extremists of Israel killed their president, Rabin, specifically because he had signed the accords.
And he was replaced by Netanyahu an extremist hawk.
In a 2001 video, Netanyahu, unaware he was being recorded, bragged about how he broke the accords.
"They asked me before the election if I'd honor [the Oslo accords]... I said I would, but I'm going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the '67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what "defined military zones" were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as I'm concerned the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue."
Netanyahu then explained how he conditioned his signing of the 1997 Hebron agreement on American consent that there be no withdrawals from "specified military locations," and insisted he be allowed to specify which areas constituted a military location - such as the whole of the Jordan Valley.
"Why is that important? Because from that moment on I stopped the Oslo Accords," Netanyahu affirmed.
So by his own admission Netanyahu scuttled the Oslo Accords.
It's ridiculous for Israel to now try to claim that the Oslo accords somehow limit Palestine's right to statehood.
Among the terms of the Oslo Accords, Israel was to withdraw from all Palestinian territory and a Palestinian State was to be declared no later than 5 years after the signing of the accords.
That would have been 1999.
In Yugoslavia you already had States,whereas Palestinian Authority by it's own Definition of a State does not qualify!
Read it again!
Not that it will help anyway!
Not OSLO,MONTEVIDEO,Ray!
GUZMAN1: And especially in the war in Yugoslavia, very smart to recognize States before defining its borders. The boundaries then decide through wars.
those states already existed!chris27292729: Myself and Alberta we solved the problem of Israel,on page 16 and 17 ,Con,does not agree.-
The Hell you did!Conrad73: Ray,Ray,Ray!
Context,Mister!
actually Yugoslavia consisted of Six Federal Republics,each defined,which satisfied Montevideo!Context,Mister!
"Palestinian Authority" doesn't!
Would a Palestinian declaration of statehood be valid under international law?
As noted above, the United Nations does not grant statehood – in fact, no organization or body does. And while the Palestinians can always declare statehood yet again, that doesn't make them a state.
Under international law there are specific requirements for a political entity to be considered a state, which were codified under the Montevideo Convention (Convention on Rights and Duties of States, 1933 )
The following articles of this convention are the most relevant:
ARTICLE 1
The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: a ) a permanent population; b ) a defined territory; c ) government; and d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.
ARTICLE 2
The federal state shall constitute a sole person in the eyes of international law.
ARTICLE 3
The political existence of the state is independent of recognition by the other states. Even before recognition the state has the right to defend its integrity and independence, to provide for its conservation and prosperity, and consequently to organize itself as it sees fit, to legislate upon its interests, administer its services, and to define the jurisdiction and competence of its courts.
The exercise of these rights has no other limitation than the exercise of the rights of other states according to international law.
More recently, in deciding issues relating to the breakup of Yugoslavia, The Arbitration Commission of the Conference on Yugoslavia (colloquially known as the Badinter Arbitration Committee, 1991) adopted similar requirements.
Under these criteria the territory under the control of the Palestinians does not constitute a state. This is first because under the Oslo Accords and subsequent agreements the PA has limited and even temporary authority, and limited autonomy. In no sense does the PA have complete governmental control over a permanent population, nor does it have control over a defined territory – both because its control is limited, and because the extent of its sovereign territory has to be determined via negotiations with Israel. Nor, under the agreements or in practice, does the PA have the capacity to enter into genuine relations with other states.
Furthermore, the Palestinian declaration of statehood in 1988, which the Palestinians say is still operative, listed as Palestinian citizens "Palestinians wherever they may be... "
Contrary to the legal requirements for statehood, this is an indefinite population over whom, in many cases, the Palestinian Authority (and even the PLO) has no defacto authority whatsoever.
Contrary to the legal requirements for statehood, this is an indefinite population over whom, in many cases, the Palestinian Authority (and even the PLO) has no defacto authority whatsoever. The 1988 declaration is also unclear (or perhaps too clear) regarding the extent of Palestinian territorial claims, proclaiming:
the establishment of the State of Palestine on our Palestinian territory with its capital Jerusalem (Al-Quds Ash-Sharif).
What exactly is "our Palestinian territory" and exactly what portion of Jerusalem are they claiming? In any event, no Palestinian entity has control over this entire territory or Jerusalem, thus again failing to meet the requirements of statehood.
The bottom line is that only through good faith negotiations with Israel can the Palestinians address these issues and achieve statehood.
Ray is doing a Chubby Checker again!
the establishment of the State of Palestine on our Palestinian territory with its capital Jerusalem (Al-Quds Ash-Sharif).
What exactly is "our Palestinian territory" and exactly what portion of Jerusalem are they claiming? In any event, no Palestinian entity has control over this entire territory or Jerusalem, thus again failing to meet the requirements of statehood.
The bottom line is that only through good faith negotiations with Israel can the Palestinians address these issues and achieve statehood.
Ray is doing a Chubby Checker again!
RayfromUSA: Boy am I glad you mentioned the breakup of Yugoslavia in this context. I just watched a very good documentary all about that and I was wondering how to work it into the conversation.
Yes indeed there are a lot of parallels between Yugoslavia and Palestine.
In both cases the west intentionally aggravated long dormant ancient hostilities, armed both sides, gave monetary incentives to the hawks on both sides, and thereby created a regional war. In both cases the ultimate goal to divide and conquer the area. And both will end up with a multinational occupational army permanently ruling over the locals (on both sides) to "keep the peace".
The following film views the situation in Yugoslavia from the viewpoint of the local people, rather than the viewpoint of the Western warmongers who created the war for their own colonialist purposes.
The Weight of Chains is a full length film (2 hours) distributed free.
Watch it here.
Love it how you're dumping a two-Hour Video on us!Yes indeed there are a lot of parallels between Yugoslavia and Palestine.
In both cases the west intentionally aggravated long dormant ancient hostilities, armed both sides, gave monetary incentives to the hawks on both sides, and thereby created a regional war. In both cases the ultimate goal to divide and conquer the area. And both will end up with a multinational occupational army permanently ruling over the locals (on both sides) to "keep the peace".
The following film views the situation in Yugoslavia from the viewpoint of the local people, rather than the viewpoint of the Western warmongers who created the war for their own colonialist purposes.
The Weight of Chains is a full length film (2 hours) distributed free.
Watch it here.
YouTube not good enough or long enough anymore?
RayfromUSA: And you need to learn to think rationally and speak honestly Conrad.
States don't derive their just powers from the UN nor from the Oslo accords. They derive their powers from the consent of the governed.
And certainly you are not suggesting that the indigenous people of Palestine have no rights to a state in their own natural homeland where they have lived for untold centuries.
As for the Oslo accords. They were not a negotiation between Israel and Palestine about Palestine's right to statehood.
Israel has absolutely nothing to say whatsoever on that point.
The accords (agreements) were a truce. An agreement of non-hostility to allow Palestine the opportunity to exercise its human rights and to develop its infrastructure in preparation for statehood which was to be pronounced no later than 5 years after the signing of the agreement.
Just as Israel declared itself to be a state in 1948 without any recognition whatsoever at the moment of the declaration, the Palestinians can declare themselves to be a state whenever they like.
And by the way, it was Israel, (not Palestine) who broke all its promises and therefore rendered the Oslo accords null and void.
Don't you remember that not long after the accords were signed, the right wing extremists of Israel killed their president, Rabin, specifically because he had signed the accords.
And he was replaced by Netanyahu an extremist hawk.
In a 2001 video, Netanyahu, unaware he was being recorded, bragged about how he broke the accords.
"They asked me before the election if I'd honor [the Oslo accords]... I said I would, but I'm going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the '67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what "defined military zones" were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as I'm concerned the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue."
Netanyahu then explained how he conditioned his signing of the 1997 Hebron agreement on American consent that there be no withdrawals from "specified military locations," and insisted he be allowed to specify which areas constituted a military location - such as the whole of the Jordan Valley.
"Why is that important? Because from that moment on I stopped the Oslo Accords," Netanyahu affirmed.
So by his own admission Netanyahu scuttled the Oslo Accords.
It's ridiculous for Israel to now try to claim that the Oslo accords somehow limit Palestine's right to statehood.
Among the terms of the Oslo Accords, Israel was to withdraw from all Palestinian territory and a Palestinian State was to be declared no later than 5 years after the signing of the accords.
That would have been 1999.
seez the King of Conspiracy Theory!States don't derive their just powers from the UN nor from the Oslo accords. They derive their powers from the consent of the governed.
And certainly you are not suggesting that the indigenous people of Palestine have no rights to a state in their own natural homeland where they have lived for untold centuries.
As for the Oslo accords. They were not a negotiation between Israel and Palestine about Palestine's right to statehood.
Israel has absolutely nothing to say whatsoever on that point.
The accords (agreements) were a truce. An agreement of non-hostility to allow Palestine the opportunity to exercise its human rights and to develop its infrastructure in preparation for statehood which was to be pronounced no later than 5 years after the signing of the agreement.
Just as Israel declared itself to be a state in 1948 without any recognition whatsoever at the moment of the declaration, the Palestinians can declare themselves to be a state whenever they like.
And by the way, it was Israel, (not Palestine) who broke all its promises and therefore rendered the Oslo accords null and void.
Don't you remember that not long after the accords were signed, the right wing extremists of Israel killed their president, Rabin, specifically because he had signed the accords.
And he was replaced by Netanyahu an extremist hawk.
In a 2001 video, Netanyahu, unaware he was being recorded, bragged about how he broke the accords.
"They asked me before the election if I'd honor [the Oslo accords]... I said I would, but I'm going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the '67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what "defined military zones" were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as I'm concerned the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue."
Netanyahu then explained how he conditioned his signing of the 1997 Hebron agreement on American consent that there be no withdrawals from "specified military locations," and insisted he be allowed to specify which areas constituted a military location - such as the whole of the Jordan Valley.
"Why is that important? Because from that moment on I stopped the Oslo Accords," Netanyahu affirmed.
So by his own admission Netanyahu scuttled the Oslo Accords.
It's ridiculous for Israel to now try to claim that the Oslo accords somehow limit Palestine's right to statehood.
Among the terms of the Oslo Accords, Israel was to withdraw from all Palestinian territory and a Palestinian State was to be declared no later than 5 years after the signing of the accords.
That would have been 1999.
RayfromUSA: And you need to learn to think rationally and speak honestly Conrad.
an advice you need very much to follow yourself!Conrad73: The Hell you did!
Go back on page 16 and 17 and read our respective posts,something wrong with your eyesight?? chris27292729: Go back on page 16 and 17 and read our respective posts,something wrong with your eyesight??
You know Chris,actually I feel somewhat sorry for you!
Conrad73: You know Chris,actually I feel somewhat sorry for you!
Likewise for you.On page 16 and 17 is proposal to a solution.- Give your proposal,if you have any. chris27292729: Likewise for you.On page 16 and 17 is proposal to a solution.- Give your proposal,if you have any.
chris27292729: Likewise for you.On page 16 and 17 is proposal to a solution.- Give your proposal,if you have any.
No proposals???? then you have my..... 
Albertaghost: It's hardly a plan or proposal Chris as it is simply stating existing conditions for the peace process to move forward.
For everyone's listening pleasure.....
chris27292729: Good for you keep running. The first one is ahead of you,try to overtake him.-
Actually you're back on page 16 thinking you have somehow solved the situation when all you've done is articulate existing conditions. That makes you very far behind now.
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