ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL. (595)

Aug 26, 2011 7:16 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
springnight: In simple English:

League of Nations Or United Nations or they or we or me or You or he or sh, No One have the right to give something not owned by him/her, so they were nothing but stolen lands.


frustrated frustrated frustrated
Aug 26, 2011 7:19 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
springnight: In simple English:

League of Nations Or United Nations or they or we or me or You or he or sh, No One have the right to give something not owned by him/her, so they were nothing but stolen lands.



Using your argument....All land then is stolen land as I for one cannot think of any country that has not been invaded or conquered and had folk displaced......Oh maybe Japan as although they got beaten and subjugated the Marshall plan wrked well for them.....

And read this from 48....After the Arabs had got 80% of the land....grin cheers
Aug 26, 2011 7:19 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
patmac: LMAO....

First line of your link

Palestine under League of Nations Mandate, 1922

Now that says a lot.....



Read the end and Upgrade.
Aug 26, 2011 7:19 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
patmac: Using your argument....All land then is stolen land as I for one cannot think of any country that has not been invaded or conquered and had folk displaced......Oh maybe Japan as although they got beaten and subjugated the Marshall plan wrked well for them.....

And read this from 48....After the Arabs had got 80% of the land....


Aug 26, 2011 7:24 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
springnight: In simple English:

League of Nations Or United Nations or they or we or me or You or he or sh, No One have the right to give something not owned by him/her, so they were nothing but stolen lands.


Not so easy, two countries can define borders, but first one must recognize the existance of the other.

And if you look the list of countries of this site or the google maps, the existance of Palestine is denied.

In any case UN rules the real world, the League of Nations is only in the fools minds.
Aug 26, 2011 7:28 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
springnight
springnightspringnighthamm, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany33 Posts
patmac: Using your argument....All land then is stolen land as I for one cannot think of any country that has not been invaded or conquered and had folk displaced......Oh maybe Japan as although they got beaten and subjugated the Marshall plan wrked well for them.....

And read this from 48....After the Arabs had got 80% of the land....


Thanks, you just admit they were stolen lands.sad flower
Aug 26, 2011 7:37 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
GUZMAN1: Read the end and Upgrade.


Read it and you are still wrong ......Fact

League of Nations

Then United Nations Both planned the outcome....

Under the U N plan the Arabs now got 80% of the land and as the Arab Nations would not accept ruling 181 and declared war the fun began in 1948....Sadly it has run on and on and on ever since....And the Border has changed after every war as it did throughout the world...

Try Alsace Lorraine as an example...It has been French and German how many times.....And as for all the other places like the German bit of Poland and Sudetenland.....Sorry the Arabs need to accept the fact they did well getting 80% of the land and the Jews only got 20%....And the Arabs declared war....WHY ???? Lost that war and how many since???

And like I have shown so often Lebanon, Jordan and Syria displaced more Palestinians and took more land than the Jews, yet not one of the Anti Islamic brigade ever acknowledge this....Why ??? Because they only want to give the Jews a hard time.....Sad so bloody sad...grin cheers
Aug 26, 2011 7:43 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
patmac: Read it and you are still wrong ......Fact

League of Nations

Then United Nations Both planned the outcome....

Under the U N plan the Arabs now got 80% of the land and as the Arab Nations would not accept ruling 181 and declared war the fun began in 1948....Sadly it has run on and on and on ever since....And the Border has changed after every war as it did throughout the world...

Try Alsace Lorraine as an example...It has been French and German how many times.....And as for all the other places like the German bit of Poland and Sudetenland.....Sorry the Arabs need to accept the fact they did well getting 80% of the land and the Jews only got 20%....And the Arabs declared war....WHY ???? Lost that war and how many since???

And like I have shown so often Lebanon, Jordan and Syria displaced more Palestinians and took more land than the Jews, yet not one of the Anti Islamic brigade ever acknowledge this....Why ??? Because they only want to give the Jews a hard time.....Sad so bloody sad...


Good example Alsace, and Lorraine. Where was the right border? matter too much the opinion of its inhabitants?
Aug 26, 2011 7:47 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
springnight: Thanks, you just admit they were stolen lands.


Not at all all I did was use your argument, and I did at no point ever say I AGREED WITH IT.

Just the fact you refuse to accept the UN ruling says a lot....

The rest of the world accepted 181...The Arabs did not.

Now they went to war and LOST.....And have done so ever since on so many occasions....

That begs the question...

Who started the war and many more since

Now who does that make the aggressor in this affair...

Obvious answer THE ARABS....

The rest of the world in general accepts the UN rulings. Why can't the Arabs especially as they got 80% of the Mandates....

A question not one of the Anti Israeli lot has answered successfully..





grin cheers
Aug 26, 2011 7:52 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
GUZMAN1: Good example Alsace, and Lorraine. Where was the right border? matter too much the opinion of its inhabitants?


Easy the right border is where the UN placed it after WWII....And it has stayed the same since and both countries accepted this and have done ever since....

Unlike the Arabs who did not sign 181 and even though they had 80% of the mandates went to war.....

One they lost and that is when the fun began....

So who do I blame. THE ARABS.....Who even in this situation stole land and displaced FELLOW ARABS....Why no complaint about this....grin cheers
Aug 26, 2011 7:54 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
patmac:
So who do I blame. THE ARABS.....Who even in this situation stole land and displaced FELLOW ARABS....Why no complaint about this....


As a silly question, and you won't even get a silly answer!
Aug 26, 2011 7:55 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
springnight: Thanks, you just admit they were stolen lands.


And who did the Palestinians steal it from????grin cheers
Aug 26, 2011 7:57 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
Wow_Factor: As a silly question, and you won't even get a silly answer!



They all avoid it.......grin cheers
Aug 26, 2011 7:59 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
patmac: They all avoid it.......


Well, if you were them, wouldn't you avoid answering it as well.
Aug 26, 2011 8:00 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
patmac: Not at all all I did was use your argument, and I did at no point ever say I AGREED WITH IT.

Just the fact you refuse to accept the UN ruling says a lot....

The rest of the world accepted 181...The Arabs did not.

Now they went to war and LOST.....And have done so ever since on so many occasions....

That begs the question...

Who started the war and many more since

Now who does that make the aggressor in this affair...

Obvious answer THE ARABS....

The rest of the world in general accepts the UN rulings. Why can't the Arabs especially as they got 80% of the Mandates....

A question not one of the Anti Israeli lot has answered successfully..


No. The Arabs live in Arabia. The Palestines in Palestina, except the ones who Israel denies the Right To Return defined by UN.

Search the definition of Right to Return in wikipedia and explain me what you think.

And say me why the decisions of Siria and Lebanon create a different legal situation to Palestina, and why UN doesn't discuss nonsenses.

Who is behind your photos, are interested in dating here or do other job?.
Aug 26, 2011 8:12 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
springnight
springnightspringnighthamm, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany33 Posts
patmac: And who did the Palestinians steal it from????


I didn't realize Palestinians did came from Europe on Boats and occupied/Steal this land!!! Did they???
Aug 26, 2011 8:13 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
GUZMAN1: No. The Arabs live in Arabia. The Palestines in Palestina, except the ones who Israel denies the Right To Return defined by UN.

Search the definition of Right to Return in wikipedia and explain me what you think.

And say me why the decisions of Siria and Lebanon create a different legal situation to Palestina, and why UN doesn't discuss nonsenses.

Who is behind your photos, are interested in dating here or do other job?.


YOUR IGNORANCE IS AMAZING...Arabs live in many countries.....Have a look.

This article includes a list of countries of the Arab League sorted by their gross domestic product (GDP), the value of all final goods and services produced within a nation in a given year. The GDP dollar estimates presented here are calculated at market or government official exchange rates.
List of Arab League countries by total GDP (nominal)

The table below includes IMF GDP data for the year 2010 for all 22 members of the Arab League. Data are in millions of current United States dollars. Data of Palestine and Somalia is from the CIA World Factbook.
Rank Country GDP (millions of USD) 2010
- World 61,963,429
- Arab League 1,903,301
1 Saudi Arabia 434,440
2 United Arab Emirates 239,650
3 Egypt 216,830
4 Algeria 158,969
5 Qatar 126,518
6 Kuwait 117,316
7 Morocco 91,702
8 Iraq 84,136
9 Libya 77,912
10 Sudan 65,930
11 Syria 59,633
12 Oman 53,782
13 Tunisia 43,863
14 Lebanon 39,149
15 Yemen 30,023
16 Jordan 27,129
17 Bahrain 21,733
18 Palestinian territories 6,641
19 Mauritania 3,486
20 Somalia 2,372
21 Djibouti 1,139
22 Comoros 557

Now I really wonder if you know anything that is relevant to this discussion....grin cheers

And the only country I know that resembles "Arabia" is Saudi Arabia....And yes Arabs live there as well as many other countries...
Aug 26, 2011 8:15 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
springnight: I didn't realize Palestinians did came from Europe on Boats and occupied/Steal this land!!! Did they???


Never asked that...All I did was use your argument ALL LAND IS STOLEN....so who did the Palestinians steal it from???

It matters not a jot where they came from....grin cheers
Aug 26, 2011 8:16 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
springnight: I didn't realize Palestinians did came from Europe on Boats and occupied/Steal this land!!! Did they???
your grasp of History is astounding!
Aug 26, 2011 8:20 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
GUZMAN1: No. The Arabs live in Arabia. The Palestines in Palestina, except the ones who Israel denies the Right To Return defined by UN.

Search the definition of Right to Return in wikipedia and explain me what you think.

And say me why the decisions of Siria and Lebanon create a different legal situation to Palestina, and why UN doesn't discuss nonsenses.

Who is behind your photos, are interested in dating here or do other job?.
Who is behind yours?
Aug 26, 2011 8:21 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Conrad73: your grasp of History is astounding!


You mean astoundingly bad as opposed to astoundingly good!
Aug 26, 2011 8:22 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
GUZMAN1: Not so easy, two countries can define borders, but first one must recognize the existance of the other.

And if you look the list of countries of this site or the google maps, the existance of Palestine is denied.

In any case UN rules the real world, the League of Nations is only in the fools minds.


Complete and utter high quality rate one GARBAGE....Does not even make sense.....grin cheers
Aug 26, 2011 8:25 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
patmac: Get it right Chris....your quote was taken direct and to say someone spews the truth like you did.

And you spew one sided truth

so you clearly state she speaks the truth. and you find a fault with the truth?????

Sad Chris.....
You better sad yourselfthumbs down thumbs down thumbs down
Aug 26, 2011 8:27 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
springnight: have a look on this link, hope you can see something different other than what is in your mind:


UN have no right to give something she doesn't own, so they were nothing but stolen lands

Do your homework, look for her/his previous threads...I don't have time to waste for such Nonsense..beside, did you hear her/him denying that ?
more Innuendo you can't back up?
Aug 26, 2011 8:27 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
springnight
springnightspringnighthamm, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany33 Posts
patmac: Never asked that...All I did was use your argument ALL LAND IS STOLEN....so who did the Palestinians steal it from???

It matters not a jot where they came from....


You are the one who said"ALL Land are Stolen" not me, I was referring only to Philistine lands as you know. I answered your question, just read carefully, but no harm to repeat: Jews came from Europe and other parts of world and occupied Palestinians land, Palestinians were living there since ever.
Is it difficult to digest such FACT ????!!!
Aug 26, 2011 8:29 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
Wow_Factor: You mean astoundingly bad as opposed to astoundingly good!
rolling on the floor laughing and her constant Innuendo like "His/HER" is even more so!

Poor thing hasn't got the Courage to come straight out with it!
Aug 26, 2011 8:31 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
springnight: You are the one who said"ALL Land are Stolen" not me, I was referring only to Philistine lands as you know. I answered your question, just read carefully, but no harm to repeat: Jews came from Europe and other parts of world and occupied Palestinians land, Palestinians were living there since ever.
Is it difficult to digest such FACT ????!!!
Bull,read History,not Revisionism!
Aug 26, 2011 8:33 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
springnight: You are the one who said"ALL Land are Stolen" not me, I was referring only to Philistine lands as you know. I answered your question, just read carefully, but no harm to repeat: Jews came from Europe and other parts of world and occupied Palestinians land, Palestinians were living there since ever.
Is it difficult to digest such FACT ????!!!


You did not make this clear at all and I used your argument to prove the point.

Jews have always lived in and around the area for millenia and that fact is clear to all but ignored by so many....

Like I asked ooooo so many times ...

Why no screaming and shouting about the Arabs who displaced Palestinians and stole their land???

Now I ask this question direct to you???

Why ?do you not scream and shout about this?

Abdullah of Jordan being one of the biggest landsnatchers...

And his son Hussain did much the same...

grin cheers
Aug 26, 2011 8:42 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
springnight: You are the one who said"ALL Land are Stolen" not me, I was referring only to Philistine lands as you know. I answered your question, just read carefully, but no harm to repeat: Jews came from Europe and other parts of world and occupied Palestinians land, Palestinians were living there since ever.
Is it difficult to digest such FACT ????!!!
Let them show you,statistics how many Jews living in Palestanine on the colapsed of the Ottomans.
Aug 26, 2011 8:44 AM CST ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
springnight: You are the one who said"ALL Land are Stolen" not me, I was referring only to Philistine lands as you know. I answered your question, just read carefully, but no harm to repeat: Jews came from Europe and other parts of world and occupied Palestinians land, Palestinians were living there since ever.
Is it difficult to digest such FACT ????!!!


Now this is the bit I used



"In simple English:

League of Nations Or United Nations or they or we or me or You or he or sh, No One have the right to give something not owned by him/her, so they were nothing but stolen lands."

At no point did you or do you refer to Philistine

And I do remember the Jews Giving the Philistines a kicking in the days of David and WHO WAS THAT BIG LAD MMMMM Goliath....That was another war they lost.....Shame you seem to forget these things....

In any case my argument is based on more recent times...Since the OTTOMAN empire was split up after WW1 and the events since.

You seem to have forgot that the whole area was run by and for the Turkish Ottoman chappies.....Now after them is when we need to talk aout not Biblical or Quranical quotes that can always be refuted by another verse in the same bloody book.grin cheers

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