ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL. (595)
jvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 PostsThe problem with Israel .....is that anyone pays attention to it and we all have to hear about it for our entire lifetime......
Albertaghost: I suppose you are the only one who does not agree that Palestinians should have their own state and territory.
Watch bobo , I am fairly prickly tonight
naturesbest: Watch IT bobo , I am fairly prickly tonight
translation for verse 16:106....
Sahih International: Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah , and for them is a great punishment;
Pickthall: Whoso disbelieveth in Allah after his belief - save him who is forced thereto and whose heart is still content with the Faith - but whoso findeth ease in disbelief: On them is wrath from Allah. Theirs will be an awful doom.
Yusuf Ali: Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.
Shakir: He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.
Muhammad Sarwar: No one verbally denounces his faith in God - unless he is forced - but his heart is confident about his faith. But those whose breasts have become open to disbelief will be subject to the wrath of God and will suffer a great torment.
Mohsin Khan: Whoever disbelieved in Allah after his belief, except him who is forced thereto and whose heart is at rest with Faith but such as open their breasts to disbelief, on them is wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a great torment.
Arberry: Whoso disbelieves in God, after he has believed -- excepting him who has been compelled, and his heart is still at rest in his belief -- but whosoever's breast is expanded in unbelief, upon them shall rest anger from God, and there awaits them a mighty chastisement;
Sahih International: Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah , and for them is a great punishment;
Pickthall: Whoso disbelieveth in Allah after his belief - save him who is forced thereto and whose heart is still content with the Faith - but whoso findeth ease in disbelief: On them is wrath from Allah. Theirs will be an awful doom.
Yusuf Ali: Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.
Shakir: He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.
Muhammad Sarwar: No one verbally denounces his faith in God - unless he is forced - but his heart is confident about his faith. But those whose breasts have become open to disbelief will be subject to the wrath of God and will suffer a great torment.
Mohsin Khan: Whoever disbelieved in Allah after his belief, except him who is forced thereto and whose heart is at rest with Faith but such as open their breasts to disbelief, on them is wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a great torment.
Arberry: Whoso disbelieves in God, after he has believed -- excepting him who has been compelled, and his heart is still at rest in his belief -- but whosoever's breast is expanded in unbelief, upon them shall rest anger from God, and there awaits them a mighty chastisement;
mnowsa: translation for verse 16:106....
Sahih International: Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah , and for them is a great punishment;
Pickthall: Whoso disbelieveth in Allah after his belief - save him who is forced thereto and whose heart is still content with the Faith - but whoso findeth ease in disbelief: On them is wrath from Allah. Theirs will be an awful doom.
Yusuf Ali: Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.
Shakir: He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.
Muhammad Sarwar: No one verbally denounces his faith in God - unless he is forced - but his heart is confident about his faith. But those whose breasts have become open to disbelief will be subject to the wrath of God and will suffer a great torment.
Mohsin Khan: Whoever disbelieved in Allah after his belief, except him who is forced thereto and whose heart is at rest with Faith but such as open their breasts to disbelief, on them is wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a great torment.
Arberry: Whoso disbelieves in God, after he has believed -- excepting him who has been compelled, and his heart is still at rest in his belief -- but whosoever's breast is expanded in unbelief, upon them shall rest anger from God, and there awaits them a mighty chastisement;
yep,and sure to be actively helped along by the Faithful!Sahih International: Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah , and for them is a great punishment;
Pickthall: Whoso disbelieveth in Allah after his belief - save him who is forced thereto and whose heart is still content with the Faith - but whoso findeth ease in disbelief: On them is wrath from Allah. Theirs will be an awful doom.
Yusuf Ali: Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.
Shakir: He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.
Muhammad Sarwar: No one verbally denounces his faith in God - unless he is forced - but his heart is confident about his faith. But those whose breasts have become open to disbelief will be subject to the wrath of God and will suffer a great torment.
Mohsin Khan: Whoever disbelieved in Allah after his belief, except him who is forced thereto and whose heart is at rest with Faith but such as open their breasts to disbelief, on them is wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a great torment.
Arberry: Whoso disbelieves in God, after he has believed -- excepting him who has been compelled, and his heart is still at rest in his belief -- but whosoever's breast is expanded in unbelief, upon them shall rest anger from God, and there awaits them a mighty chastisement;
{quote=Naturebest] “Watch IT bobo , I am fairly prickly tonight
A little? More like a lot as you seem to have gotten banned and deleted for whatever you're into.
A little? More like a lot as you seem to have gotten banned and deleted for whatever you're into.
GUZMAN1: And the people who lived there?
ever heard the term "Crown-land" or "Public-Land"?mnowsa: So, pls allow me to put the proper translation of those verses in question. the translations are as follows:
(verse 3:28)Sahih International: Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the destination.
Pickthall: Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.
(verse 3:28)Sahih International: Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the destination.
Pickthall: Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers. Whoso doeth that hath no connection with Allah unless (it be) that ye but guard yourselves against them, taking (as it were) security. Allah biddeth you beware (only) of Himself. Unto Allah is the journeying.
And some here try to say Jews are bigoted. Seems that you have confirmed it is the other way around.
GUZMAN1: Is not my definition, but the lack of a territory, or the dispersion of people of the same culture, language, religion or ethnics in different countries created different kinds of nationalism.
Ethnic nationalism (or cultural):
Define the nation in terms of ethnicity, which always includes some element descendants of previous generations. It also includes ideas of a cultural connection between members of the nation and its ancestors and often a common language. Nationality is hereditary. The state derives political legitimacy from its status as home to the ethnic group, and its function of protecting the national group and facilitating a social and cultural life for the group.
[SMITH, Anthony D., The Ethnic Origins of Nations, Blackwell, Oxford, 1986.]
Ethnic nationalism (or cultural):
Define the nation in terms of ethnicity, which always includes some element descendants of previous generations. It also includes ideas of a cultural connection between members of the nation and its ancestors and often a common language. Nationality is hereditary. The state derives political legitimacy from its status as home to the ethnic group, and its function of protecting the national group and facilitating a social and cultural life for the group.
[SMITH, Anthony D., The Ethnic Origins of Nations, Blackwell, Oxford, 1986.]
Like the original people of Israel who spoke Hebrew.
Albertaghost: {quote=Naturebest] “Watch IT bobo , I am fairly prickly tonight
A little? More like a lot as you seem to have gotten banned and deleted for whatever you're into.
A little? More like a lot as you seem to have gotten banned and deleted for whatever you're into.
GUZMAN1:
Gallup poll reveals common ground for Jewish and Muslim Americans
Gallup poll reveals common ground for Jewish and Muslim Americans
Gee Spanish Flea, post an article about what Eskimos believe and you can round this out a bit.
What on earth do Jewish or Muslims living ten thousand miles away from another country have to do with that country?
GUZMAN1: http://www.un.org/Depts/dpi/palestine/
Oh Oh, I don't think so.
Perhaps in your country or time machine news are censored.
Oh Oh, I don't think so.
Perhaps in your country or time machine news are censored.
RayfromUSA: We Americans never joke about our role as the world's policeman.
A thankless job, to be sure, setting up obedient dictators who will keep their people on the right track.
A thankless job, to be sure, setting up obedient dictators who will keep their people on the right track.
Albertaghost: Gee Spanish Flea, post an article about what Eskimos believe and you can round this out a bit.
What on earth do Jewish or Muslims living ten thousand miles away from another country have to do with that country?
What on earth do Jewish or Muslims living ten thousand miles away from another country have to do with that country?
Well, what they have in common is they are Jewish or Muslims.
Albertaghost: Like the original people of Israel who spoke Hebrew.
Of course, today you seem more intelligent.
Albertaghost: And some here try to say Jews are bigoted. Seems that you have confirmed it is the other way around.
So which translation you approve off,WOW's or MNOWSA.???GUZMAN1: Well, what they have in common is they are Jewish or Muslims.
I see. So, given that Muslims in the Middle East live in Muslim societies as defined by their Islamic state names and Jewish people live in a open society that allows and promotes other religions why is this relevant to anything to do with this topic my Spanish Fly?
chris27292729: So which translation you approve off,WOW's or MNOWSA.???
Didn't see a translation of the same prose but rather Mnoswa posting something new which is detrimental to Muslims.
However, this is not a matter between religions but rather peoples in different countries. That some small minded individuals believe it is a religious matter shall remain just that.
Albertaghost: I see. So, given that Muslims in the Middle East live in Muslim societies as defined by their Islamic state names and Jewish people live in a open society that allows and promotes other religions why is this relevant to anything to do with this topic my Spanish Fly?
It is different from sharing a border with Palestine than with Lebanon or Jordan, for example?
In fact, many countries have existed only to be No Man's Land.
The settlers are threatened when they move to the West Bank? Why they go?
Conspiracies union movement seeking.Hidden and omitted truth. Con. you are to true pupil of Hermann Goering.
chris27292729: Conspiracies union movement seeking.Hidden and omitted truth. Con. you are to true pupil of Hermann Goering.
Not so fast, friend, first I want to know how far should the final frontier.
GUZMAN1: Not so fast, friend, first I want to know how far should the final frontier.
Their frontier of misinformation is endless,picking in ONE word of your sentence their usuall,your links ALL rubbish,theirs the right ones,Twist and turns their proffession,directing you and leading you, where the subject they wish to go,their skills. Do you need more??? chris27292729: Conspiracies union movement seeking.Hidden and omitted truth. Con. you are to true pupil of Hermann Goering.
The Puker is back! Puke some for us!
Funny how you're revealing your family's Skeletons!
GUZMAN1: Not so fast, friend, first I want to know how far should the final frontier.
The gang elevated to 5 with a new member,his style ordering people around,thinking he is stll in the army,and the word PLEASE unknown, like "stop trying to highjack the thread,get back on the subject"chris27292729: Conspiracies union movement seeking.Hidden and omitted truth. Con. you are to true pupil of Hermann Goering.
How come you are revealing so much of yourself?Might be time for you to lay off the Sauce!
especially after your performance yesterday,and your regular general Performance!
Conrad73: The Puker is back!
Puke some for us!
Funny how you're revealing your family's Skeletons!
Who's "us" do you belong to an organization???Puke some for us!
Funny how you're revealing your family's Skeletons!
chris27292729: Conspiracies union movement seeking.Hidden and omitted truth. Con. you are to true pupil of Hermann Goering.
Poor Guy!Totally put out when it comes to History!
Can't even get your own straight.
Conrad73: How come you are revealing so much of yourself?
Might be time for you to lay off the Sauce!
especially after your performance yesterday,and your regular general Performance!
If you don't like it,simply don't respond,you aren't obliged,aren't you??? I couldn't find any skeletons,find any in yours???? Have some sauce,you deserve it.Might be time for you to lay off the Sauce!
especially after your performance yesterday,and your regular general Performance!
chris27292729: If you don't like it,simply don't respond,you aren't obliged,aren't you??? I couldn't find any skeletons,find any in yours???? Have some sauce,you deserve it.
said the Greek anti-Semite!It is definitely true,scratch a Leftie,and you uncover an anti-Semite!
A Puking one at that!
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