ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL. (595)
Lerie2010: I just enjoy watching them working themselves up ...wonder who will crack first?
What i try here is to reveal truth of what happened and what is happening against Philistinism, people should really stop getting information from Biased Media, instead they need to find the truth by making some efforts.
It is important also we try to educate people around us inside home, friends, at work... about the way Palestinians suffer..
if awareness been there about this issue, then Israel won't be able to continue her crimes...the more pressure from international community the less crimes would occur by Israel.
chris27292729: Don't be a joker. The term Palestinians pre existed the Ottoman occupiers,during the Ottomans and during the British Mandate."British Mandate for Palestine" ring a bell to you.
The term was around since the day of Christ. I said that earlier. But as far as a organized political movement or group? When Yasser Arafat began to borrow it the 60s. Borrow you say?
Arafat was not even from the West Bank (he was born in Cairo to Palestine parent and live much of his early life Kuwait) and most of his PLO followers were Jordanian......Jordan is much larger place than just the West Bank. That is why when the POL first organized, they did not settle in the West Bank. But along the Israel/Jordan border.
Arafat did not have enough support from the ligitmate West Bankers to settle his PLO on the West Bank.
Then he ticks off the Jordan government and gets booted out of Jordan.
And the great PLO exodus begins. As they do. They collect like minded Moslems from all over the globe. Few with any heritage to the West Bank or Palestine.
But fine, you want to snurf at dNA, carbon dating, ancient writings, artifacts to say that the Palestines were there when Jew arrived after the real exodus from Egypt. And it is ligitmately their land. Enjoy the free fall.
But I would advise.....the word of God be listened to here.....when He said to the Jewish nation..."This is the land I swore to Abraham, to Issac, to Jacob, I will give it your offspring.'". Deu 34:4
springnight: What i try here is to reveal truth of what happened and what is happening against Philistinism, people should really stop getting information from Biased Media, instead they need to find the truth by making some efforts.
It is important also we try to educate people around us inside home, friends, at work... about the way Palestinians suffer..
if awareness been there about this issue, then Israel won't be able to continue her crimes...the more pressure from international community the less crimes would occur by Israel.
It is important also we try to educate people around us inside home, friends, at work... about the way Palestinians suffer..
if awareness been there about this issue, then Israel won't be able to continue her crimes...the more pressure from international community the less crimes would occur by Israel.
Why not try an unbaised viewpoint. They are all at fault...Some more than others and that is fact.
Who started the thing in 1948???
Who has in their charter a sworn statement to destroy a sovereign state??
Who retaliates often too strongly???
Who has the most International support???
And who has since 1948 displaced it's Brother Arabs and stolen their Land???
Arabs
Arabs
Israel
Israel
Arabs and Israel has taken and BOUGHT land.....Folk forget some land has been BOUGHT....Sold by ARABS
Facts. And sadly it will continue until they ALL sit down and talk...Until the Hamas and Fataah etc take out the hateful clause about the destuction of Israel then that is never really going to happen...
Bloody SAD, SAD, SAD..........
springnight: What i try here is to reveal truth of what happened and what is happening against Philistinism, people should really stop getting information from Biased Media, instead they need to find the truth by making some efforts.
It is important also we try to educate people around us inside home, friends, at work... about the way Palestinians suffer..
if awareness been there about this issue, then Israel won't be able to continue her crimes...the more pressure from international community the less crimes would occur by Israel.
It is important also we try to educate people around us inside home, friends, at work... about the way Palestinians suffer..
if awareness been there about this issue, then Israel won't be able to continue her crimes...the more pressure from international community the less crimes would occur by Israel.
My two heroes of our time are Kenneth O'Keefe and George Galloway ...they try to get the word out in all media about the suffering of the people of Palestine
Allen West: US congressman with his heart in the East
ttom500: The term was around since the day of Christ. I said that earlier. But as far as a organized political movement or group? When Yasser Arafat began to borrow it the 60s. Borrow you say?
Arafat was not even from the West Bank (he was born in Cairo to Palestine parent and live much of his early life Kuwait) and most of his PLO followers were Jordanian......Jordan is much larger place than just the West Bank. That is why when the POL first organized, they did not settle in the West Bank. But along the Israel/Jordan border.
Arafat did not have enough support from the ligitmate West Bankers to settle his PLO on the West Bank.
Then he ticks off the Jordan government and gets booted out of Jordan.
And the great PLO exodus begins. As they do. They collect like minded Moslems from all over the globe. Few with any heritage to the West Bank or Palestine.
But fine, you want to snurf at dNA, carbon dating, ancient writings, artifacts to say that the Palestines were there when Jew arrived after the real exodus from Egypt. And it is ligitmately their land. Enjoy the free fall.
But I would advise.....the word of God be listened to here.....when He said to the Jewish nation..."This is the land I swore to Abraham, to Issac, to Jacob, I will give it your offspring.'". Deu 34:4
Are you trying to analyse the term Palestinians, and what they wish to call themselves???They have the right to call themselves what they like,even change their name.The Israel's call their country Israel,who'going to stop them if they want to change it??? or for this matter any other country,decides to change its name???.Arafat was not even from the West Bank (he was born in Cairo to Palestine parent and live much of his early life Kuwait) and most of his PLO followers were Jordanian......Jordan is much larger place than just the West Bank. That is why when the POL first organized, they did not settle in the West Bank. But along the Israel/Jordan border.
Arafat did not have enough support from the ligitmate West Bankers to settle his PLO on the West Bank.
Then he ticks off the Jordan government and gets booted out of Jordan.
And the great PLO exodus begins. As they do. They collect like minded Moslems from all over the globe. Few with any heritage to the West Bank or Palestine.
But fine, you want to snurf at dNA, carbon dating, ancient writings, artifacts to say that the Palestines were there when Jew arrived after the real exodus from Egypt. And it is ligitmately their land. Enjoy the free fall.
But I would advise.....the word of God be listened to here.....when He said to the Jewish nation..."This is the land I swore to Abraham, to Issac, to Jacob, I will give it your offspring.'". Deu 34:4
springnight: What i try here is to reveal truth of what happened and what is happening against Philistinism, people should really stop getting information from Biased Media, instead they need to find the truth by making some efforts.
It is important also we try to educate people around us inside home, friends, at work... about the way Palestinians suffer..
if awareness been there about this issue, then Israel won't be able to continue her crimes...the more pressure from international community the less crimes would occur by Israel.
It is important also we try to educate people around us inside home, friends, at work... about the way Palestinians suffer..
if awareness been there about this issue, then Israel won't be able to continue her crimes...the more pressure from international community the less crimes would occur by Israel.
Why not explain their plight to the 1.5b Moslem that have 1/4 of all the dry land in world, and see if the Moslem countries can give them homestead? Libya comes to mind. It needs some new people after the bloodshed there.
Or Syria come to mind. Or Iran. Or even Jordan.
Look the Moslem world has made the Palestine the kicking boy of the Moslem world ever since Yasser Arafat took them on the great PLO exodus. They have been booted out of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Algeria,
each time to have the Moslem world to place them next to Israel for continue violence and conflict.
But no, they have to have a few acres of the West Bank, near Jerasulem, along the border of Israel. What to be real Palestinians?
Give me a break. If they were real Palestinian, then do the dNA famalia test and prove it.
By the way. This big myth that the Isreal keeps them hostage? Isolated in the Gaza and West Bank. According to King Abullah of Jordan. Jordan has issue 595,000 Jordan passport to them. They are free to travel the world on those Jordan passports. Prisoner, my.......
Lerie2010: My two heroes of our time are Kenneth O'Keefe and George Galloway ...they try to get the word out in all media about the suffering of the people of Palestine
Do you really mean the man who described Saddam as INDEFATIGABLE??.....Now was that before or after he Gassed the Kurds and Killed how many of his own Islamic folk?????
~peters/resettlement.html
Palestinian Refugees, were denied resettlement opportunities
Palestinian Refugees, were denied resettlement opportunities
patmac: Do you really mean the man who described Saddam as INDEFATIGABLE??.....Now was that before or after he Gassed the Kurds and Killed how many of his own Islamic folk?????
in·de·fat·i·ga·ble/?ind?'fatig?b?l/
Adjective: (of a person or their efforts) Persisting tirelessly; untiring.
whatever was wrong with that as a description?
Conrad73: http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~peters/resettlement.html
Palestinian Refugees, were denied resettlement opportunities
Palestinian Refugees, were denied resettlement opportunities
Palestinian Refugees, were denied resettlement opportunities
Lerie2010: in·de·fat·i·ga·ble/?ind?'fatig?b?l/
Adjective: (of a person or their efforts) Persisting tirelessly; untiring.whatever was wrong with that as a description?
Adjective: (of a person or their efforts) Persisting tirelessly; untiring.whatever was wrong with that as a description?
I guess it depends on what it is that they are persisting tirelessly at....
Sunnydaze14: I guess it depends on what it is that they are persisting tirelessly at....
chris27292729: Are you trying to analyse the term Palestinians, and what they wish to call themselves???They have the right to call themselves what they like,even change their name.The Israel's call their country Israel,who'going to stop them if they want to change it??? or for this matter any other country,decides to change its name???.
Chris, Yasser Arafat....a Moslem and Arab Nationalist.....borrowed the name of a small ancient Christian village (Palestine) to name his organization after. Do you think that might have been done on purpose?
To gain sympathy in the world from confused Christian over what the real PLO was? He could have call them....the Homeless and Impovershed Moslems of the West Bank and it would have much more accurate. Because the 1.5b Moslems in the world have failed...total failed to take care of their own few million displaced.
You all blame Isreal for this. Blame Moslems. Blame Assad of Syria. Blame the leaders of Lebanon, Jordan, and Algeria......as well.
Blame the Shia and Sunni Sect leaders for not adhering to the Koran that says you have to give alms to the poor. Blame the Saudi, they have oil wealth out the ying yang. But none of them can share rubie with them or a acre of land.
Iran is using the Isreal/Palestine conflict to place the world to the brink of a nuclear holocaust. What does Iran have to do it? They are 1000 miles away from the area. Blame Iran some to. The forced movements of 'the Palestines' has so clearly been staged to aid Iran's export of Revolutionary Islam .......
Lerie2010: in·de·fat·i·ga·ble/?ind?'fatig?b?l/
Adjective: (of a person or their efforts) Persisting tirelessly; untiring.whatever was wrong with that as a description?
Adjective: (of a person or their efforts) Persisting tirelessly; untiring.whatever was wrong with that as a description?
I would say ask:
The millions who died in the Iraq Iran war....
The Kurds....
The folk who were not Members of the Baath Party....
The Marsh Arabs
The Kuwaitees.
And the Thousands who died as a result of his INDEFATIGABILITY....
Now let's get back to the point....
I by the way have yet to have an answer !!!! Nothing new there...Whta about the ARABS who stole ARAB land in 48 and displaced so many Arabs at the same time?????
chris27292729: Reply first what i asked you,if it was a name called Israel in the fall of Ottomans in i918.- Have you got the guts???? You brought the Balfour after i asked about the name of Israel in 1918.- Mr impartial. I don't have to learn from you,especially when, we as Greeks, we have tought you,how to THINK first,as were incapable of finding out yourselves.-
OMFG! Conrad73: OMFG!
The same applies for you as well. chris27292729: The same applies for you as well.
chris27292729: Reply first what i asked you,if it was a name called Israel in the fall of Ottomans in i918.- Have you got the guts???? You brought the Balfour after i asked about the name of Israel in 1918.- Mr impartial. I don't have to learn from you,especially when, we as Greeks, we have tought you,how to THINK first,as were incapable of finding out yourselves.-
Chris, don't be more papist than the Pope, the Balfour Declaration is not the Bible, to decide borders.
springnight: Everybody is invited to watch this...it explains the whole story...
I am what could be Palestine. Some of my people committed massacres and later became head of state to represent me.
I am what could be Palestine. Offered to my people in 1948 out of the British mandate for Palestine and refused so that we might try to take all of it.
While the natives who lived on this land for thousands of years are not allowed to return, Jews from all over the word (who used to live there but were pushed out earlier) are. The Palestinians who are not allowed to return are not allowed to do so for a reason - they have sworn to kill every Israeli through their endorsement of the Hamas and Fatah Charter.
Stupid vid.
springnight: What i try here is to reveal truth of what happened and what is happening against Philistinism,
Then why do you omit the fact that Jews were natives of that land?
And omit the other fact that in diaspora, Jews all wanted to come home at that time and so, as their rightful home, they should have been permitted?
And when the UN finally awarded them half of the home, the Arabs tried to kill every last one of them?
Why doesn't your silly vid deal with those points?
springnight: people should really stop getting information from Biased Media, instead they need to find the truth by making some efforts.
I didn't get any of the above from biased or, unbiased media but rather UN resolutions, history as pretty much every encyclopedia on earth as well as the UN states and, historians of every ilk including anti Israel ones right here on this site.
springnight:
It is important also we try to educate people around us inside home, friends, at work... about the way Palestinians suffer..
It is important also we try to educate people around us inside home, friends, at work... about the way Palestinians suffer..
Very importent so they can place pressure on the terrorist regime Hamas to come clean and return to the negotiating table in earnest.
springnight: if awareness been there about this issue, then Israel won't be able to continue her crimes...the more pressure from international community the less crimes would occur by Israel.
And, either will hamas and Fatah. All sides play the world for their purposes. As what appears to be real is not always.
chris27292729: Go to h....l for good. Still waiting a reply for the name of Israel in 1918.-
Didn't have a name as it didn't exist. Either did Syria, Palestine or Jordan.
chris27292729: Go to h....l for good. Still waiting a reply for the name of Israel in 1918.-
Didn't have a name as it didn't exist. Either did Syria, Palestine or Jordan.
Lerie2010: in·de·fat·i·ga·ble/?ind?'fatig?b?l/
Adjective: (of a person or their efforts) Persisting tirelessly; untiring.whatever was wrong with that as a description?
Adjective: (of a person or their efforts) Persisting tirelessly; untiring.whatever was wrong with that as a description?
If you don't consider the rest of the quote and who it is directed to then nothing;
"Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability, and I want you to know that we are with you, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-Quds [until victory, until victory, until Jerusalem]."
"If you are asking did I support the Soviet Union, yes I did. Yes, I did support the Soviet Union, and I think the disappearance of the Soviet Union is the biggest catastrophe of my life. "
We didn't let him into Canada, and that was the policy of our Liberal Government. That this guy is somehow your mentor explains a lot of why your arguments are so light on fact and heavy on hyperbole.
Sunnydaze14: I guess it depends on what it is that they are persisting tirelessly at....
In the case of Saddam it is pretty obvious - quest for more power, sacrifice of children rather than adhere to ceasefire conditions, murder, deaths of hundreds of thousands of his own people to hold his power, deaths of over a million to seek more power.
Albertaghost: I am what could be Palestine. Some of my people committed massacres and later became head of state to represent me.
I am what could be Palestine. Offered to my people in 1948 out of the British mandate for Palestine and refused so that we might try to take all of it.
While the natives who lived on this land for thousands of years are not allowed to return, Jews from all over the word (who used to live there but were pushed out earlier) are. The Palestinians who are not allowed to return are not allowed to do so for a reason - they have sworn to kill every Israeli through their endorsement of the Hamas and Fatah Charter.
Stupid vid.
Then why do you omit the fact that Jews were natives of that land?
And omit the other fact that in diaspora, Jews all wanted to come home at that time and so, as their rightful home, they should have been permitted?
And when the UN finally awarded them half of the home, the Arabs tried to kill every last one of them?Why doesn't your silly vid deal with those points?
I didn't get any of the above from biased or, unbiased media but rather UN resolutions, history as pretty much every encyclopedia on earth as well as the UN states and, historians of every ilk including anti Israel ones right here on this site.
Very importent so they can place pressure on the terrorist regime Hamas to come clean and return to the negotiating table in earnest.
And, either will hamas and Fatah. All sides play the world for their purposes. As what appears to be real is not always.
I am what could be Palestine. Offered to my people in 1948 out of the British mandate for Palestine and refused so that we might try to take all of it.
While the natives who lived on this land for thousands of years are not allowed to return, Jews from all over the word (who used to live there but were pushed out earlier) are. The Palestinians who are not allowed to return are not allowed to do so for a reason - they have sworn to kill every Israeli through their endorsement of the Hamas and Fatah Charter.
Stupid vid.
Then why do you omit the fact that Jews were natives of that land?
And omit the other fact that in diaspora, Jews all wanted to come home at that time and so, as their rightful home, they should have been permitted?
And when the UN finally awarded them half of the home, the Arabs tried to kill every last one of them?Why doesn't your silly vid deal with those points?
I didn't get any of the above from biased or, unbiased media but rather UN resolutions, history as pretty much every encyclopedia on earth as well as the UN states and, historians of every ilk including anti Israel ones right here on this site.
Very importent so they can place pressure on the terrorist regime Hamas to come clean and return to the negotiating table in earnest.
And, either will hamas and Fatah. All sides play the world for their purposes. As what appears to be real is not always.
British Empire was not built by idiots.
Canadian unbiased samaritans had no problems.
Sometimes circumstances do not allow it to be equitable.
Albertaghost: If you don't consider the rest of the quote and who it is directed to then nothing;
"Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability, and I want you to know that we are with you, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-Quds [until victory, until victory, until Jerusalem]."
"If you are asking did I support the Soviet Union, yes I did. Yes, I did support the Soviet Union, and I think the disappearance of the Soviet Union is the biggest catastrophe of my life. "
We didn't let him into Canada, and that was the policy of our Liberal Government. That this guy is somehow your mentor explains a lot of why your arguments are so light on fact and heavy on hyperbole.
One nasty Customer,that Galloway,along with O'Keefe!"Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability, and I want you to know that we are with you, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-Quds [until victory, until victory, until Jerusalem]."
"If you are asking did I support the Soviet Union, yes I did. Yes, I did support the Soviet Union, and I think the disappearance of the Soviet Union is the biggest catastrophe of my life. "
We didn't let him into Canada, and that was the policy of our Liberal Government. That this guy is somehow your mentor explains a lot of why your arguments are so light on fact and heavy on hyperbole.
Albertaghost: Didn't have a name as it didn't exist. Either did Syria, Palestine or Jordan.
You are so right and waited the Leaque of Nations handing over the "British Mandate for Palestine" to rename them again Palestine and Jordan. Another joker who served in the area,and thinks is an expert Syria as well, never anybody called them Syria at the time,waited as well the "Frence Mandate for Syria" to be called Syria again They are driven in their convictions,those geagraphical areas, never-ever, had names,and waited the Mandates to get one. patmac: I would say ask:
The millions who died in the Iraq Iran war....
The Kurds....
The folk who were not Members of the Baath Party....
The Marsh Arabs
The Kuwaitees.
And the Thousands who died as a result of his INDEFATIGABILITY....
Now let's get back to the point....
I by the way have yet to have an answer !!!! Nothing new there...Whta about the ARABS who stole ARAB land in 48 and displaced so many Arabs at the same time?????
You forgot, the milions the British have killed to keep their Empire afloat.-The millions who died in the Iraq Iran war....
The Kurds....
The folk who were not Members of the Baath Party....
The Marsh Arabs
The Kuwaitees.
And the Thousands who died as a result of his INDEFATIGABILITY....
Now let's get back to the point....
I by the way have yet to have an answer !!!! Nothing new there...Whta about the ARABS who stole ARAB land in 48 and displaced so many Arabs at the same time?????
chris27292729: You are so right and waited the Leaque of Nations handing over the "British Mandate for Palestine" to rename them again Palestine and Jordan. Another joker who served in the area,and thinks is an expert Syria as well, never anybody called them Syria at the time,waited as well the "Frence Mandate for Syria" to be called Syria again They are driven in their convictions,those geagraphical areas, never-ever, had names,and waited the Mandates to get one.
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You knew nothing about the second British Mandate and even less on the French....And you are trying to tell us what is a fact...When you have not got a clue about all of them....Still waiting a reply reference the Arabs who stole land and displaced other Arabs in 1948......Been a while now and no reply ???