911 terrorism....american government.? (155)

Its not the USA, its a few individuals in the USA on high ranking positions and they had their reasons...

Actually it does make a difference .

I HAVE NOTICED THAT SOME THOUGHTS ND SUGGESTIONS HERE ARE GATHERING MOMENTUM TOWARDS PERSONAL,BELIEFS THOUGHTS ETC..I FOR MOST COMMENTS THEY ARE WELL MADE POINTS...
THANKS THOSE FOR THE INTEREST..
AS WHAT I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT HERE...MY MAJOR POINT HERE,REGARDLESS OF
ALL OUR THOUGHTS AND AS I SAID THESE POINTS ARE MOSTLY WELL MADE..
THE SIMPLE FACT REMAINS....WHAT HAS BEEN PORTRAYED TO OF HAPPENED BY THE MEDIA..AMERICAN GOVERNMENT TO THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD ..THE PUBLIC..
IS NOT PLAUSIBLE...SEVERAL FACTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED..

THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES WILL ALWAYS STAND AS BEING PLAUSIBLE ..
WHO KNOWS MAY BE CORRECT..SIMPLY BECAUSE IT COULD NOT OF HAPPENED THE WAY GOVERNMENT /MEDIA IS WANTING US TO BELIEVE..
AS I HAVE MENTIONED THE FIRST QUESTION...
LAWS OF PHYSICS INVOLVED CALCULATIONS..TIMING..MATHEMATICS ITSELF REQUIRED TO BRING DOWN THESE TWO BUILDINGS..THE ONLY TWO IN THE KNOWN HISTORY OF ALL BOMBINGS,WARS WE HAVE ALL SEEN AND SOME ENDURED..

TO FALL VERTICALLY..IN ONE PILE..CONSIDERING POINT OF IMPACT...
HISTORY.DOCUMENTED FACTS.. SHOWS US CLEARLY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE...

SO WHY..MY GUESS IS AS GOOD AS ANYBODY ELSE..HERE..
IF THE LAWS OF PHYSICS AND FACTS ARE THERE..CLEARLY SHOWS
WE HAVE BEEN TOLD LIES ..COULD NOT HAPPEN AS PORTRAYED...

TO BELIEVE THE MEDIA..GOVERN CONCEPTS TO WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED
PERSONALLY THINK ..NAIVE PERSON..YOU NEED TO ASK YOUR SELF THE ABOVE QUESTION...LAWS OF PHYSICS..?INVOLVED IN DETONATION ..MATHEMATICAL INVOLVEMENT...COINCIDENCE ?

Thought I would start with the above idiocy. From the NYT;

""According to industry experts, it is possible to use cell phones with varying success during the ascent and descent of commercial airline flights, although the difficulty of maintaining a signal appears to increase as planes gain altitude. Some older phones, which have stronger transmitters and operate on analog networks, can be used at a maximum altitude of 10 miles, while phones on newer digital systems can work at altitudes of 5 to 6 miles. A typical airline cruising altitude would be 35,000 feet, or about 6.6 miles.

''The fact of the matter is that cell phones can work in almost all phases of a commercial flight,'' said Marvin Sirbu, professor of engineering and public policy at Carnegie Mellon University. ''An excess of caution prevents us from doing so, of course, because we are so worried about the safety of air travel.'' ""



Ray, you never fail to come through with the

Actually Ray they wanted to topple regimes of the ME and the best way to do it was to garner support from like minded people of the region. A common enemy (known in Jihadi circles as the 'Far Enemy' required to be attacked in a spectacular fashion in order to prove they were powerful. The attack was not about killing as many as possible as they could have done so much more damage and death with lesser public attacks but rather a show of force to get the 'wow' factor from those whom they hoped to bring to their side in the mission to overthrow regimes of the ME.

Also, they were not cave men as cave men would not be able to blend in with society in the US as these University graduates did for over a year here and in Europe.



Seems they had things scoped out pretty good. Definitely not 'cavemen' Ray.




Not difficult to do, banks and aircraft have been robbed and hijacked with less than that.




Indeed. Finding the two tallest buildings in New York City must require a freakin' microscope!




At speeds over six hundred miles per hour and bullet speed around the same to a thousand yes, they would have. In fact, to attempt to compare any aircraft crash with these is not on as the speeds here were deliberately maximized for obvious reasons and those in normal (if you can call any that) crashes minimized for also obvious reasons.

Incidentally, the speeds had to have had a bearing on weakening the structure.



They found lots though Ray. During the months that followed they found parts of bodies, pieces of office furniture, shards of aircraft and beams etc. No traces of explosive though.



How fast is free fall Ray? In my paratrooper days it was about a hundred twenty miles per hour or about five seconds for a thousand feet.



Yes. That one makes me very ery suspicious. Why would anybody if perpetrating this crime detonate it so long after? Makes me think that it collapsed due to being hit by debris and heat.



Tiny? You call a seventy foot hole tiny? "roll:

To be continued ....

My theory is awaiting you to provide proof of an alternative and the evidence. So far all you and your fellow nutters do is point out possible irregularities with no evidence of your own. IN fact, if you look at Ray, he has a fantasy built up around this with general perpetrators but of course can't name anybody as he has no frickin' clue cause he's like you and just enjoys picking things apart to no end.

As I asked many times, who did it, how did they do it, how did thy move the stuff you think they did it with and what did they have to gain by doing it and did they gain anything by doing it?

ON this you seem to be strangely quiet preferring to wallow in exploiting oddities and such when the entire events of the day have never been seen before or probably ever will be. In short, it was a complex one time only thing.

You cite demolition experts but yet, no building of that type of construction has ever been demolished and, of that height and, nobody can replicate the speed and weight of the aircraft hitting it and the resulting heat generated by the fuel yet somehow your experts can tell us all how it is done from their ten story buildings and reflect on how this is done on something ten times as big.