If I walked into my church with an 18 year old on my arm, I'm quite sure it would be interesting to see the reaction. Since I'm not a woman, I can't say how a cougar and pup would be received.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
You're asking two questions in your poll.
The first is as the title, which has more social stigma attached to dating an older partner, but you haven't defined 'older'. There would be a different social stigma dating someone a day older than a few years, or a generational gap in either case.
The second question you ask is personal opinion, but without the definition of 'older', again, its a non-specific question.
Also, it doesn't take into account individual differences in terms of the relationship itself and so you're asking people to state their prejudices.
I'm inclined to think that if there's a power imbalance due to age, whatever that age gap is and whichever gender is older, then the relationship is going to be unhealthy.
funxsinia: Was thinking about this earlier and wondered what others might think about dating and age differences.
I think society dictates enough without me adding to it.I could really care less.If someone who are consenting Adults chooses to be with someone older/younger then themselevs it's their business.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
Ccincy: I think society dictates enough without me adding to it.I could really care less.If someone who are consenting Adults chooses to be with someone older/younger then themselevs it's their business.
I agree, too many people set themselves up as a moral police, and cause unnecessary suffering to people who are doing no wrong.
HuggerMan4U: If I walked into my church with an 18 year old on my arm, I'm quite sure it would be interesting to see the reaction. Since I'm not a woman, I can't say how a cougar and pup would be received.
huggerman, in my experience, there are always a few bad apples who will raise their eyebrows and whisper "tut tut"
but they are the same bored & judgemental few that do that about everybody regarding everything.....so w/e....
being with whomever makes you happy in life is but one of the simple pleaseures we should be able to pursue in peace
jac379: I think there can be and not only that, I think some people may deliberately seek that power imbalance.
On the other hand, a significant age difference can also lead to a balance of power.
I agree that some think what they think is a power position, but I also agree with Tom that power in a relationship is not always what it seems.
myself I think it should not be an important part of any relationship. I do not see age differences as any different that same age relationships form this perspective of power. what is that? there are abusive people of all ages....I just generally try to stay away from them young and old....if someone is seeking a power IMbalance because they are abusive they will look for an unwitting victim irrespective of age IMO
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
felixis99: methinks you are being unecessarily defensive when all I have done is ask jac for clarification. I have put up no baseline. why so defensive?
I said that a power imbalance can exist in ANY relationship - or perhaps I had not clarified that well enough, in which case, apologies
Defensive+ just stating my opinions, I am not taking this discussion personally, if I have given that impression, I apologise,
tomcatwarne: Defensive+ just stating my opinions, I am not taking this discussion personally, if I have given that impression, I apologise,
I accept your generalisation.
what generalization? that a power imbalance can exist??? yes, of course it can - irrespective of age! Age being a non issue.
no problem Tom. I don't think anyone wants to be viewed as someone who would seek a relationship for the wrong reasons. People who assume that someone who chooses a much older or much younger partner for some subterrean devilish agenda is forming that judgement based on what is going on in their OWN head....
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
felixis99: what generalization? that a power imbalance can exist??? yes, of course it can - irrespective of age! Age being a non issue.
no problem Tom. I don't think anyone wants to be viewed as someone who would seek a relationship for the wrong reasons. People who assume that someone who chooses a much older or much younger partner for some subterrean devilish agenda is forming that judgement based on what is going on in their OWN head....
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
felixis99: I agree that some think what they think is a power position, but I also agree with Tom that power in a relationship is not always what it seems.
myself I think it should not be an important part of any relationship. I do not see age differences as any different that same age relationships form this perspective of power. what is that? there are abusive people of all ages....I just generally try to stay away from them young and old....if someone is seeking a power IMbalance because they are abusive they will look for an unwitting victim irrespective of age IMO
I had a relationship with someone 10/11 years my senior starting at the age of 17. He was immature (in retrospect), but more knowledgeable than I, simply because he had that extra ten years to accumulate different experiences. I think part of my attraction was that I was easy to push around which he was less likely to have been able to do with someone his own age.
It concerns me when I see older men with much younger women, if I think this may also be the case, whilst I recognise that the power balance isn't like that by default and can be equal, or the other way round, if the fella is willing to be pushed around for fear of the woman finding a partner perceived as being more suitable in some way because of age, for example.
I also think that maybe the older woman/younger man can create a power balance, given that women's emancipation has been largely a women lead movement, with mothers teaching their sons a less patriarchal model of relating to the opposite gender. It maybe means in some cases, a younger man might be more in tune with equality than an older, or same age man. Again, I also recognise that women may seek out significantly younger men to have a power imbalance in their favour, rather than seeking equality.
I think not only the chronological age gap may be a factor in creating imbalance for some, but also the time of life where the relationship is established. An age gap between 48 and 58 years is not so great, as a rule as an age gap between 18 and 28, given that we tend to develop more radically between the former ages than the latter.
jac379: I had a relationship with someone 10/11 years my senior starting at the age of 17. He was immature (in retrospect), but more knowledgeable than I, simply because he had that extra ten years to accumulate different experiences. I think part of my attraction was that I was easy to push around which he was less likely to have been able to do with someone his own age.
It concerns me when I see older men with much younger women, if I think this may also be the case, whilst I recognise that the power balance isn't like that by default and can be equal, or the other way round, if the fella is willing to be pushed around for fear of the woman finding a partner perceived as being more suitable in some way because of age, for example.
I also think that maybe the older woman/younger man can create a power balance, given that women's emancipation has been largely a women lead movement, with mothers teaching their sons a less patriarchal model of relating to the opposite gender. It maybe means in some cases, a younger man might be more in tune with equality than an older, or same age man. Again, I also recognise that women may seek out significantly younger men to have a power imbalance in their favour, rather than seeking equality.
I think not only the chronological age gap may be a factor in creating imbalance for some, but also the time of life where the relationship is established. An age gap between 48 and 58 years is not so great, as a rule as an age gap between 18 and 28, given that we tend to develop more radically between the former ages than the latter.
I agree that the possibility exists and perhaps you see it because you were affected by it. And I like the way you see both sides where either the younger or the older partner can be seeking the power imbalance - when that occurs
a healthy individual will not seek this, however. My stepmom is only a couple years older than me, and I really don't see that with them. (dad & stepmom)
however I was married to someone my own age for quite a long time who became impossible to be around of he wasn't in complete control....hence my view that these things are not always age related. It is important to get to know someone well enough to eliminate any negative agenda that might exist from the equation at any age
notwithstanding I agree that the things you say can happen - I just don;t think that age difference is the common demoninator, rather an abusive personality is the common denominator, if you get me
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