Does EU still want or need the royal families? (76)

Oct 21, 2012 5:30 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
butterfly0123: For someone so concerned about the indigenous people of Sweden, Norway, Finland and Russia, one would have thought that you would know that Lap, Lapp, or Laplanders,or Lapish as you made up for yourself, are regarded as pejorative terms. Sami would be the word you'd use.


you are concerned about words..and i am concerned about human lives, humanity, justice, supression..etc,,

clearly you and i do not have anything in common..

look why dont u go to a discoteque and enjoy urself..


Butler, he doesnt like this thread..so shw her the exit
Oct 21, 2012 5:31 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
Conrad73: Yep,the Royals can order anyone to War?


or to be esassinated..
poor dianasad flower
Oct 21, 2012 6:40 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
cloud747: or to be esassinated..
poor diana


Oh there you are Cloudy reunion Crazy is missing her man!! lips But I am embarrassed at your lack of grammar for pity's sake!! Don't you have spell check on your computer??? doh
Oct 21, 2012 6:57 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
Elitism suck
Oct 21, 2012 7:14 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
Conrad73: Canada is a federal state governed as a parliamentary democracy and a constitutional monarchy, with Queen Elizabeth II as its head of state.
The country is officially bilingual and multicultural at the federal level, with a population of approximately 33.4 million as of 2011.



I think the Queen being the Head of State in Canada is just silly, to say the least. What do I, as a Canadian get from that? Nothing. I cannot go take up residence in the UK. EU laws trump everything. A German, a French, an Italian can take up residence in the UK even though the Queen is not the Head of State in Germany, France or Italy.
Oct 21, 2012 7:16 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Conrad73: the moment you specify "EU",you're talking Government!



Exactly!




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Oct 21, 2012 7:32 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
equiya: I think the Queen being the Head of State in Canada is just silly, to say the least. What do I, as a Canadian get from that? Nothing. I cannot go take up residence in the UK. EU laws trump everything. A German, a French, an Italian can take up residence in the UK even though the Queen is not the Head of State in Germany, France or Italy.


Very interesting. So, you're saying that people living in various UK countries, such as Australia, Canada, Ireland, etc., cannot move to other UK countries? Why is that? I would it would be similar to moving from Puerto Rico to the U.S., or from one province of Canada to another province.
Oct 21, 2012 7:57 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
HuggerMan4U: Very interesting. So, you're saying that people living in various UK countries, such as Australia, Canada, Ireland, etc., cannot move to other UK countries? Why is that? I would it would be similar to moving from Puerto Rico to the U.S., or from one province of Canada to another province.


Canada is not a UK country. It is an independent country. Moving to the UK from Canada is not like moving from Ontario to Manitoba. I think the Queen being the Head of State is just ceremonial. I cannot vote in the elections in the UK. When I arrive at port of entry in the UK there are usually 3 lanes: "EU", "EU and Switzerland", "All Others". I have to and go through All Others. I complete a form and my Canadian passport is stamped. I don't need a visa to enter the country though.
Oct 22, 2012 1:03 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
Saviour66
Saviour66Saviour66Betty Ford Clinic, Sodermanland Sweden33 Threads 235 Posts
cloud747: you are concerned about words..and i am concerned about human lives, humanity, justice, supression..etc,,

clearly you and i do not have anything in common..

look why dont u go to a discoteque and enjoy urself..Butler, he doesnt like this thread..so shw her the exit
"He"????

You´re replies are,to say at least,unusual....very,very original!

"Discoteque"???

Anyway,it looks like you´re doing fine,since you can afford a butler.....
Oct 22, 2012 2:17 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
equiya: I think the Queen being the Head of State in Canada is just silly, to say the least. What do I, as a Canadian get from that? Nothing. I cannot go take up residence in the UK. EU laws trump everything. A German, a French, an Italian can take up residence in the UK even though the Queen is not the Head of State in Germany, France or Italy.


aww darling, just some ppl, who are not hungry, like the Q for the glitter and ra mata..the cost of royals in this economic hardship, is billions of dollars..why cant they just get married like evryone else..
Oct 22, 2012 2:21 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
Conrad73: the moment you specify "EU",you're talking Government!


the EU comprises of a minority of ppl forming the GOV, and a vast majority of ppl, who are citizens...you cant separate ppl from the govevery mad
Oct 22, 2012 2:21 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
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ru4eva: All I can say is I will be pulling down my pants and showing them a royal opening, when they come to visit here in NZ again...
Oct 22, 2012 2:23 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
They getting married between themselves,they like it within their own "Indian cast",calling themselves the "Blue blood" LOL.
cloud747: aww darling, just some ppl, who are not hungry, like the Q for the glitter and ra mata..the cost of royals in this economic hardship, is billions of dollars..why cant they just get married like evryone else..
Oct 22, 2012 2:23 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
Saviour66: Good thread!

And yes,since I´m a white,Christian European,and live in a Monarchy,-I like it....alot....

Did I say,I´m very proud of it as well....?!

Yes,you´re right,-alot of taxpayers money goes to the royalties,but I dont complain,-I rather spend my money there,than on illitterate,non-working,backward,lazy,uneducated,social alien elements from the 3:d world.......


go see how many tutors in your universities, are persians..young boycomfort
Oct 22, 2012 2:25 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
HuggerMan4U: Has it not been a tradition for hundreds of years? Granted, the modern queen is a figurehead, not the real ruler, but if you took away the royal families, the UK people would revolt.



revolt??? rolling on the floor laughing oh dear
Oct 22, 2012 2:29 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
cloud747: revolt??? oh dear


anyway, as they say, long live the Q..but does long, mean 4ever?
Oct 22, 2012 9:04 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
equiya: Canada is not a UK country. It is an independent country. Moving to the UK from Canada is not like moving from Ontario to Manitoba. I think the Queen being the Head of State is just ceremonial. I cannot vote in the elections in the UK. When I arrive at port of entry in the UK there are usually 3 lanes: "EU", "EU and Switzerland", "All Others". I have to and go through All Others. I complete a form and my Canadian passport is stamped. I don't need a visa to enter the country though.


Canada is part of the "commonwealth" like Bahamas, New Zealand, and others. Until 1982 the Queen of England was head representation of Canada and Canada paid financial and resource tribute to her - after 1982 (?) it became .. something else, I forgot to pay attention as to what..... still have to show a passport ....
Oct 23, 2012 12:53 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
maryrachelle
maryrachellemaryrachelleBathurst, New Brunswick Canada27 Threads 1,370 Posts
tomcatwarne: The monarchy of Canada is the core of both Canada's federalism and its Westminster-style parliamentary democracy, being the foundation of the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Canadian government and each provincial government. The monarchy has been headed since 6 February 1952 by Queen Elizabeth II, who as sovereign is shared equally with fifteen other countries within the Commonwealth of Nations, all being independent and the monarchy of each legally distinct. For Canada, the current monarch is officially titled Queen of Canada (French: Reine du Canada), and she, her consort, and other members of the Canadian Royal Family undertake various public and private functions across the country and on its behalf abroad. However, the Queen is the only member of the Royal Family with any constitutional role. While several powers are the sovereign's alone, because she lives predominantly in the United Kingdom, most of the royal governmental and ceremonial duties in Canada are carried out by the Queen's representative, the governor general. In each of Canada's provinces, the monarch is represented by a lieutenant governor, while the territories are not sovereign and thus do not have a viceroy.

Oh dear looks like she is your queen too. Watcha gonna do about it


I have no idea what you even decided to write this,but I could care less about the old bat. She is nothing to me.
Oct 23, 2012 5:16 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
JeanKimberley: Canada is part of the "commonwealth" like Bahamas, New Zealand, and others. Until 1982 the Queen of England was head representation of Canada and Canada paid financial and resource tribute to her - after 1982 (?) it became .. something else, I forgot to pay attention as to what..... still have to show a passport ....


Yes.

Oh I know all about the Commonwealth business. The good thing about it is that young people from Commonwealth countries, until age 30 can go live and work in the UK for 2 years under what is called "Working Holiday Visa".
The Queen is represented in Canada now by the Govenor General.
Oct 23, 2012 5:19 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
equiya
equiyaequiyaunknown, Ontario Canada2 Threads 4,055 Posts
maryrachelle: I have no idea what you even decided to write this,but I could care less about the old bat. She is nothing to me.


me neither. she is nothing to me. thank you.
Oct 23, 2012 12:48 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,517 Posts
rohaan: It's my understanding that economically, the royal family's (Great Britain) presence rakes in the dough in thousands of ways. Tourists expect to see the pomp and circumstance of pageantry, the Beefeaters, The Changing Of The Guard, and all the rest. In that respect, they are useful, i.e. smaller companies' sales zoom as the crown puts its seal on everything from jellies and teas to coloring books. To us middle class and poorer, it would seem that it is extravagant to have so few have so much. There's always more to something than is apparent. I say let them go ahead and have all the fal de rol---many members of the royal family do volunteer work and use some of their salaries (sic) for philanthropic/charitable purposes. Overall, my belief is probably more good than not comes of it all, so to me that makes it a "keeper".
I've been through all the replies, and am a little surprised that nobody has addressed this. Still, I'd like to know what others may think of what I brought out in this post. Thanx.
Oct 23, 2012 12:57 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
rohaan: I've been through all the replies, and am a little surprised that nobody has addressed this. Still, I'd like to know what others may think of what I brought out in this post. Thanx.


I thought I did grin

The problem is there is so much misinformation around the real truth gets buried. But thanks for seeing the larger picture cheers
Oct 23, 2012 5:02 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,517 Posts
rizlared: I thought I did

The problem is there is so much misinformation around the real truth gets buried. But thanks for seeing the larger picture
You're right. You did! My bad....thanx for writing, and pointing out some financial facts. (I've always thought British Royalty was a little superfluous, but also I've always kind of liked them. They are more beneficial than not, in the final analysis).
Oct 23, 2012 5:15 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
nomade2011
nomade2011nomade2011Mons, Hainaut Belgium7 Threads 125 Posts
It's not a EU matter.
Each european country works its own way (some with a president, some with a royal family).
The EU has not a word to say about it!
Oct 25, 2012 9:21 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
CHOLENA
CHOLENACHOLENAStrasbourg, Grand Est France6 Threads 242 Posts
butterfly0123: And it was beautiful!! Long live the happy couple!!
I think they want them for some reason. I don't think they need them. The whole royal family of the UK make me nauseous. It's so completely repellent on so many levels.
Oct 25, 2012 9:47 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
CHOLENA: I think they want them for some reason. I don't think they need them. The whole royal family of the UK make me nauseous. It's so completely repellent on so many levels.


An important part of the work of The Queen and the Royal Family is to support and encourage public and voluntary service.

One of the ways in which they do this is through involvement with charities and other organisations. These range from well-known charities such as the British Red Cross to new, smaller charities like Kids Company, to regiments in the Armed Forces.

About 3,000 organisations list a member of the Royal Family as patron or president. The Queen has over 600 patronages and The Duke of Edinburgh over 700.

In this section you can learn more about how relationships with the Royal Family and specific charities are instigated and maintained, and you can search a database of current patronages by member of the Royal Family and/or type of charity or organisation.

Oct 26, 2012 12:50 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
CHOLENA
CHOLENACHOLENAStrasbourg, Grand Est France6 Threads 242 Posts
purr4mance: An important part of the work of The Queen and the Royal Family is to support and encourage public and voluntary service.

One of the ways in which they do this is through involvement with charities and other organisations. These range from well-known charities such as the British Red Cross to new, smaller charities like Kids Company, to regiments in the Armed Forces.

About 3,000 organisations list a member of the Royal Family as patron or president. The Queen has over 600 patronages and The Duke of Edinburgh over 700.

In this section you can learn more about how relationships with the Royal Family and specific charities are instigated and maintained, and you can search a database of current patronages by member of the Royal Family and/or type of charity or organisation.

The British taxpayer supports the royal family, and the royal family owns vast amounts of land in the UK. They have no right to it except bloodlines. The British should kick them out, just like the French, the Germans, and other countries in the UK have gotten rid of their monarchs. Whatever patronage the royal family does for charities, it could be made up for by taking away all the money given to those Royals by the British taxpayer. Instead of collecting multi million pound salaries for patronizing charties, just give the million to the charities and live like everyone else, earning your own way in the world. They are sickening people and their patronage of charities is a farce,
Oct 26, 2012 1:18 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
CHOLENA: The British taxpayer supports the royal family, and the royal family owns vast amounts of land in the UK. They have no right to it except bloodlines. The British should kick them out, just like the French, the Germans, and other countries in the UK have gotten rid of their monarchs. Whatever patronage the royal family does for charities, it could be made up for by taking away all the money given to those Royals by the British taxpayer. Instead of collecting multi million pound salaries for patronizing charties, just give the million to the charities and live like everyone else, earning your own way in the world. They are sickening people and their patronage of charities is a farce,


Brand Finance Plc values The UK Monarchy ‘Brand’ at £44 billion ($70 billion)

· The intangible asset value of the Monarchy is £26 billion and a tangible asset value of £18 billion according to a new study launched today by Brand Finance.
· The Queen’s Diamond Jubilee celebrations in 2012 are due to give an estimated £924 million uplift to the Leisure, Tourism and Accommodation industry.
· However, the extra Bank Holiday costs the UK Economy around £1.2 billion.
Brand Finance has launched a study on the Monarchy as a ‘brand’ to coincide with the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee celebrations. The latest report values the Monarchy from an economic perspective and as a brand with an impact of £44 billion on the UK Economy as well as assessing the emotional, political and constitutional arguments for The Royal Family. The Monarchy’s contribution to the UK economy is considerable and in this Diamond Jubilee year of 2012 Brand Finance estimates the revenue uplift to the UK economy will be £2.4 billion offset by costs of £1.4 billion giving a net uplift of £1 billion to GDP.
UK businesses also benefit from Royal Warrants and Brand Finance research has valued the scheme at £4 billion and there is also a significant reputational benefit to individual UK businesses from the Monarchy once they have been granted a Coat of Arms which Brand Finance valued at £400 million.
Brand Finance’s new study has also taken into account the costs of the Monarchy which in the long term are valued at £7.6 billion after including the Civil List (valued at £461 million), Property Maintenance (valued at £387 million) and Security for the Royal Family which is valued at £3.2 billion. However thanks to the Jubilee there will be an uplift to Leisure, Tourism and Accommodation in 2012 of £924 million (£600 million of recurring revenue from the Monarchy and £324 million specifically due to the Jubilee) which indicates that the Queen's Diamond Jubilee alone will instigate an uplift of nearly a billion.
David Haigh, CEO of Brand Finance, commenting on the latest findings stated: “The Monarchy is one of the most valuable of all British brands. Whatever one thinks about the constitutional principle, there seems little doubt that the institution of Monarchy adds significant annual earnings and long term economic value to the UK. For most of her reign, The Queen has managed the Monarchy expertly and she is currently doing a great job on an international stage. The Monarchy is a powerful endorsement for individual and company brands and for the nation brand and we believe that it is making a significant contribution to the task of driving Britain out of the recession.’
Oct 26, 2012 2:13 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
applause
CHOLENA: The British taxpayer supports the royal family, and the royal family owns vast amounts of land in the UK. They have no right to it except bloodlines. The British should kick them out, just like the French, the Germans, and other countries in the UK have gotten rid of their monarchs. Whatever patronage the royal family does for charities, it could be made up for by taking away all the money given to those Royals by the British taxpayer. Instead of collecting multi million pound salaries for patronizing charties, just give the million to the charities and live like everyone else, earning your own way in the world. They are sickening people and their patronage of charities is a farce,
cheering

the tax payer pays for the boy to have lusty nights in vegasyay
Oct 26, 2012 3:59 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
cloud747: the tax payer pays for the boy to have lusty nights in vegas



QE 2 is not the Queen of Europe, it's not up to them whether we hve a Queen or not,grin
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