Does EU still want or need the royal families? (76)

Oct 26, 2012 4:11 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
The Duchess of Cambridge has done wonders for the British fashion industry.

More broadly speaking I prefer the Monarchy to any politician at Westminster or business chief of the city.
Oct 26, 2012 4:26 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
Newlife08
Newlife08Newlife08On the coast, Queensland Australia165 Threads 2,715 Posts
Rumple4skin: The Duchess of Cambridge has done wonders for the British fashion industry.

More broadly speaking I prefer the Monarchy to any politician at Westminster or business chief of the city.


I don't know about the EU or Britain wanting the Monarchy but in Australia it is a very contentious issue.

On the one hand you have the 'senior' generation who fought for King and Country, then you have the 'younger' generation that can't understand why Australia is still tied to it's Mother's apron strings??

Been a couple of referendums lately but the wording of them has been so confusing that they have not received a majority vote?

Apart from that I ask - what would replace the system we have at the moment? At the moment the 'Westminster' system works well in Australia and unlike a lot of countries/republics around the world it has certainly given it stability?

And God forbid that we should have they system like in the USA where the Presidential elections cost $$$$$$$$$$$ billion dollars - albeit a lot private donations - and bore people to death over years and years - and think of how that money could be better used?

JMHO
Oct 26, 2012 4:39 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Newlife08: I don't know about the EU or Britain wanting the Monarchy but in Australia it is a very contentious issue.

On the one hand you have the 'senior' generation who fought for King and Country, then you have the 'younger' generation that can't understand why Australia is still tied to it's Mother's apron strings??

Been a couple of referendums lately but the wording of them has been so confusing that they have not received a majority vote?

Apart from that I ask - what would replace the system we have at the moment? At the moment the 'Westminster' system works well in Australia and unlike a lot of countries/republics around the world it has certainly given it stability?

And God forbid that we should have they system like in the USA where the Presidential elections cost $$$$$$$$$$$ billion dollars - albeit a lot private donations - and bore people to death over years and years - and think of how that money could be better used?

JMHO




Well I see you are from Queensland, so I guess that makes you a royalist by namegrin The Westminster system works well in many countries, why change it if it works. you guys have come a long way since the old days as a convict colony. I often say if only my great grandfather has stolen a loaf of bread, I could be surfing in the sunshine now. Ah well cowboy dreams.

You are welcome to use my Queen as a figure head, But if you vote to go it alone I don't think it would make much difference to us. As with other commonwealth countries.
Oct 26, 2012 4:59 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
Newlife08: I don't know about the EU or Britain wanting the Monarchy but in Australia it is a very contentious issue.

On the one hand you have the 'senior' generation who fought for King and Country, then you have the 'younger' generation that can't understand why Australia is still tied to it's Mother's apron strings??

Been a couple of referendums lately but the wording of them has been so confusing that they have not received a majority vote?

Apart from that I ask - what would replace the system we have at the moment? At the moment the 'Westminster' system works well in Australia and unlike a lot of countries/republics around the world it has certainly given it stability?

And God forbid that we should have they system like in the USA where the Presidential elections cost $$$$$$$$$$$ billion dollars - albeit a lot private donations - and bore people to death over years and years - and think of how that money could be better used?

JMHO


I think power should be more separated and that leaders should be of differing attitude, background and psychology. I don't like the party political machine that lies to us, repeatedly, and sells itself to the highest bidder being unopposed in politics.
Oct 26, 2012 6:20 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
CHOLENA
CHOLENACHOLENAStrasbourg, Grand Est France6 Threads 242 Posts
purr4mance: Brand Finance Plc values The UK Monarchy ‘Brand’ at £44 billion ($70 billion)

· The intangible asset value of the Monarchy is £26 billion and a tangible asset value of £18 billion according to a new study launched today by Brand Finance.
· The Queen’s Diamond Jubilee celebrations in 2012 are due to give an estimated £924 million uplift to the Leisure, Tourism and Accommodation industry.
· However, the extra Bank Holiday costs the UK Economy around £1.2 billion.
Brand Finance has launched a study on the Monarchy as a ‘brand’ to coincide with the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee celebrations. The latest report values the Monarchy from an economic perspective and as a brand with an impact of £44 billion on the UK Economy as well as assessing the emotional, political and constitutional arguments for The Royal Family. The Monarchy’s contribution to the UK economy is considerable and in this Diamond Jubilee year of 2012 Brand Finance estimates the revenue uplift to the UK economy will be £2.4 billion offset by costs of £1.4 billion giving a net uplift of £1 billion to GDP.
UK businesses also benefit from Royal Warrants and Brand Finance research has valued the scheme at £4 billion and there is also a significant reputational benefit to individual UK businesses from the Monarchy once they have been granted a Coat of Arms which Brand Finance valued at £400 million.
Brand Finance’s new study has also taken into account the costs of the Monarchy which in the long term are valued at £7.6 billion after including the Civil List (valued at £461 million), Property Maintenance (valued at £387 million) and Security for the Royal Family which is valued at £3.2 billion. However thanks to the Jubilee there will be an uplift to Leisure, Tourism and Accommodation in 2012 of £924 million (£600 million of recurring revenue from the Monarchy and £324 million specifically due to the Jubilee) which indicates that the Queen's Diamond Jubilee alone will instigate an uplift of nearly a billion.
David Haigh, CEO of Brand Finance, commenting on the latest findings stated: “The Monarchy is one of the most valuable of all British brands. Whatever one thinks about the constitutional principle, there seems little doubt that the institution of Monarchy adds significant annual earnings and long term economic value to the UK. For most of her reign, The Queen has managed the Monarchy expertly and she is currently doing a great job on an international stage. The Monarchy is a powerful endorsement for individual and company brands and for the nation brand and we believe that it is making a significant contribution to the task of driving Britain out of the recession.’


If the British royal family does so much good for the UK economy, then why is the German economy, with no royal family, so much stronger?
Oct 26, 2012 6:33 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
Rumple4skin
Rumple4skinRumple4skinStoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England UK4 Threads 1 Polls 980 Posts
CHOLENA: If the British royal family does so much good for the UK economy, then why is the German economy, with no royal family, so much stronger?


Better organisation, less Liberal, greater solidarity, more inventive, study harder, study smarter and the average German has more of an idea of what a proper job is.

All adds up to a different attitude & outlook which is greatly superior to our own.
Oct 26, 2012 12:50 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
zmountainman
zmountainmanzmountainmanMotril, Andalusia Spain3 Threads 186 Posts
CHOLENA: The British taxpayer supports the royal family, and the royal family owns vast amounts of land in the UK. They have no right to it except bloodlines. The British should kick them out, just like the French, the Germans, and other countries in the UK have gotten rid of their monarchs. Whatever patronage the royal family does for charities, it could be made up for by taking away all the money given to those Royals by the British taxpayer. Instead of collecting multi million pound salaries for patronizing charties, just give the million to the charities and live like everyone else, earning your own way in the world. They are sickening people and their patronage of charities is a farce,


Where on earth did you get that lot from, multi million pound salaries for patronising charities, really get a grip.
Oct 26, 2012 5:33 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,517 Posts
CHOLENA: I think they want them for some reason. I don't think they need them. The whole royal family of the UK make me nauseous. It's so completely repellent on so many levels.
thumbs up It's funny to think how someone can be comfortable in a stuffed shirt. What's even funnier is having that stuffed shirt make us feel uncomfortable, too. (I've watched the Royals on T.V. being interviewed, etc... "A Day In The Life Of The Windsors", etc... and they're even tense when they laugh!! It's all so strained....How can people live like that)?
Oct 26, 2012 8:10 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
cloud747: another expensivue luxury royal wedding today, rolls royces, castles, expensive cloths and ceremoney..rtc rtc..
all that because he/she has some royal father or father?
isnt it time for them to wake up early in the morning and work like the rest of us?
Dukes, sirs, knights..bentlies , rolls royces..

we canadians dont have royals ,so i am not really against them..it is just a Q of why theyexist at all in the modern age


Umm hello dude...Canada is a sovereign nation you doh-head. Its like you live in a different country...Or planet roll eyes transport tinfoil hat
Oct 26, 2012 8:35 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
zmountainman
zmountainmanzmountainmanMotril, Andalusia Spain3 Threads 186 Posts
venusenvy: Umm hello dude...Canada is a sovereign nation you doh-head. Its like you live in a different country...Or planet


rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 27, 2012 11:21 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
CHOLENA: I think they want them for some reason. I don't think they need them. The whole royal family of the UK make me nauseous. It's so completely repellent on so many levels.
specially the Diana affair
Oct 27, 2012 11:24 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
cloud747
cloud747cloud747winnipeg, Manitoba Canada130 Threads 27 Polls 2,947 Posts
purr4mance: Brand Finance Plc values The UK Monarchy ‘Brand’ at £44 billion ($70 billion)


and hungry ppl are dying in cold winter streets,
Oct 27, 2012 11:28 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Yup, ....off with his head.......

and mind your own business sonny.boxing
Oct 27, 2012 11:43 AM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
butterfly0123
butterfly0123butterfly0123Prague, Czech Republic3 Threads 447 Posts
CHOLENA: I think they want them for some reason. I don't think they need them. The whole royal family of the UK make me nauseous. It's so completely repellent on so many levels.


I think I'd be more worried about human rights in my own country than the British royal family if I were you


dunno
Oct 27, 2012 6:36 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
cloud747: and hungry ppl are dying in cold winter streets,





I’ll have to deal with stepping over them here locally when next month I attend the Christmas tree lighting ceremony downtown. They purposefully and strategically choose the most congested areas and stretch their bodies across the sidewalks which then causes pedestrian traffic jams.
Nov 15, 2012 1:33 PM CST Does EU still want or need the royal families?
tarris
tarristarrisnew plymouth, Taranaki New Zealand4 Threads 395 Posts
ru4eva: All I can say is I will be pulling down my pants and showing them a royal opening, when they come to visit here in NZ again...
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