Jillll: I was once eating at Taco Bell when a homeless man walked up to me and asked for money. I offered him a burrito, still in the wrapper, but he said he "didn't want no stinkin' burrito" and he said he hoped I got cancer. This is typical of the response I get when I offer anything but money, and I'm not willing to give money to support someone's drug/alcohol habit.
fjamesj9701: I was at a gas station where a person approaches me with this whole story about being homeless and needing gas to drive his wife to hospital so I gave him a five and he left the gas station without the gas. Yes call me a dumbs even though I don't mind giving to the homeless but some are just making it harder to want to give.
I'll buy her/him a new pair of boots to be famous.
fjamesj9701: I was at a gas station where a person approaches me with this whole story about being homeless and needing gas to drive his wife to hospital so I gave him a five and he left the gas station without the gas. Yes call me a dumbs even though I don't mind giving to the homeless but some are just making it harder to want to give.
It,s always good to give to the homeless. There are lotsa chancers about though. You should have offered to buy him a Mac meal or some socks or warm hat. Best wishes
But in Finland the weather and temperatures are so severe that staying out wouls mean being frozen solid, like a popsicle in the morning.No one wants to see people die because of bad luck or inability to cope.
So there are centres where they can go for the night, free of charge, and they are also given warm clothing, not new but clean and in good nic.
Of course the Alkis bring their bottles in, but as long as they don't cause trouble they are ok, and they don't cause trouble cause outside is death.
They are kicked out in the morning with their warm clothes, but can return the next night if they wish.You don't let someone die cause they have an addiction or a mental health problem, lrast not in Finland.
With all the scamming going on nowadays it's sometimes hard to tell if someone is really homesless or not.
Does that the lady who won the lottery and come to find out she was recieving food stamps and never reported the lottery winnings.
Just because someone approaches me doesn't mean I'm obligated just to give them money.
I have no problem with buying them a real meal not just some fast food junk.Or taking them to a clothing store to buy them something new.I would also let them pick out the clothing and the food.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
Ccincy: With all the scamming going on nowadays it's sometimes hard to tell if someone is really homesless or not.
Does that the lady who won the lottery and come to find out she was recieving food stamps and never reported the lottery winnings.Just because someone approaches me doesn't mean I'm obligated just to give them money.
I have no problem with buying them a real meal not just some fast food junk.Or taking them to a clothing store to buy them something new.I would also let them pick out the clothing and the food.
You have a good nature Cindy, the giver is usually rewarded with the feeling of well being, plus it's a bit of insurance in case!!!
I NEVER *EVER* fail to give some money to a homeless or out of work person. I also offer to buy them a good meal at a restaurant or buy them some clothes or shoes-their choice.
I work in law enforcement and have seen the seamier underside of the belly of society. No matter what- these are people who, through perhaps bad decisions or life situations ended up on the streets. I was raised by ranch raised parents to always look out for my fellow man and to lend a helping hand whenever possible.
Twenty one years ago, I returned from serving in the first Gulf War, recovering from a stroke that saw me medically retired. I was almost homeless due to difficulties with my mother at the time, ending up sleeping on the couch, then living in the family RV with no running water. My grandparents learned of this and stepped in. I lived with them for two years while I recovered and got back on my feet. That's the closest I've ever come to being homeless and I hope I never have to go through that again. I truly thank my grandparents for their love and care as well. It was a truly humbling experience and one learns a great deal about humanity as well.
I'd rather help someone out with the shirt off my own back then to ever ignore someone in need.
i prefer to give to organizations that help those in need. but i have also given to panhandlers at times (again preferring to buy a meal or item rather than giving cash). a previous student and his sister used to panhandle in my old neighborhood and when he told me, he was collecting a couple hundred tax free dollars on some days, i switched to giving to organizations. but whatever you choose, i think it's important to give if one can.
fjamesj9701: I was at a gas station where a person approaches me with this whole story about being homeless and needing gas to drive his wife to hospital so I gave him a five and he left the gas station without the gas. Yes call me a dumbs even though I don't mind giving to the homeless but some are just making it harder to want to give.
I say a simple and polite no.
Miami-Dade County has one of the better ways to give your change without having to give directly and avoid the aggressive panhandling. There is the meter program and 100% of the funds go to emergency beds and the indoor feeding program.
P.S. The restaurant was failing and barely paying its own expenses. Still, we gave all of our tips - hundreds and hundreds of dollars - to a local animal shelter. I was losing my property in the recession. my brother lost his shirt on that business. My mom who had lost her job was working for free. So don't try to tell me I'm mean and selfish.
Witchaywoman: Actually, I had always thought homeless people were victims of circumstance, but the people in that train ststion were depraved and they were always pulling something. That's the honest truth. The police and the other shopkeeps told us not to talk to them or give them stuff or let them hang around. We thought that sounded bad and extreme. Turns out they were right. I don't hate homeless people at all, but its easy to say you are compasionate and its easy to accuse other people of not being compassionate but it wasn't easy putting up with that bunch.
One of the best things I think people can do about homelessness in their country - is stop the value judgements - stop asking why they are homeless - and decide how best you want to deal with them.
Homeless are just folks like you and I - except circumstances has create a time in their life that they have no housing and no resources to get that housing.
Separate the idea that people who ask for money on the street are homeless and that the homeless are the people on the street asking for money. One does not make the other.
That being said - there are homeless people on the streets asking for money. Does that $1, $5, or $10 afford them the chance to get off the street and pay rent? Sadly no. There is a video on this site that says in the USA corporations give 57 billion dollars in charity - the individual Americans all together gave 217 billion.
Americans are a very generous group of people. Yet we wail against taxes that would support social services for those in need - go figure.
The best thing to do if you wish to help the homeless - give to a bonifide charity that actually provides beds and shelter - and have the experience to know how best to use your dollars - and it is tax deductable.
fjamesj9701: I was at a gas station where a person approaches me with this whole story about being homeless and needing gas to drive his wife to hospital so I gave him a five and he left the gas station without the gas. Yes call me a dumbs even though I don't mind giving to the homeless but some are just making it harder to want to give.
I watched as a man through a hamburger back at someone that was giving it to him and he was calling her names. I have spent a lot of time walking and riding my bicycle and of course driving. It is very crowded with signs in this city of Portland. I had a chat with a older man that told me how his strategy on making a good days money with that sign. He explained how it is important to go to the other side of town than you know people. He explained on how the first 60 dollars is for staying someplace for the night. And in the end he openly told me that he never makes less than a few hundred a day. And then he explained that if he chooses he takes a few days off.
I also was cutting a clients hair that owned a few gas stations and offered a man a job and some food. He said he had just eaten and was so happy because he has just received a job and only needed cash right now. The very next day she saw him across town in front of their other gas station and could not believe that she had been fooled.
While living in NW Portland I saw many homeless up close. Sometimes too close. I remember going out on a sunday to do the laundry when I saw a man laying face down on the bus bench with his pants pulled down. I was driving and though I slowed down I figured he was hung over from the night before. The following monday I did the hair for a client that works as a nurse exactly right across the street from where I saw the man. I overheard her talking about it and asked. She said the man was dead and that he had been known to have a mental disorder.
So there is obviously people that take advantage and also those that do not know how to take care of themselves. Right now it seems that the scammers are so aggressive that they may even scare off the real people that are in need.
I am sure each country and area has it's own experiences. Those were a few of mine.
The thing that get's on my nerve is these local bum unions they seamed to have formed in my area. These guys canvas entire sections of the freeway at every exit and they are organized. It's a huge racket.
I have no problem giving a couple bucks to someone in need, but when I see these professional bums, that pisses me off a little.
I have tried several tactics over the years. If they say they are hungry, I offer to take them to a diner. (No takers) If they say they need gas, I tell 'em I have a 5 gallon gas can in the my trunk and lets go pour it in their auto. (No takers) If they say they lost a job and need cash, I tell 'em I'll pay them $10 an hour to pull weeds or mow or trim bushes, plus I'll let 'em shower and I'll feed 'em too! (No takers) The final straw was one day, a guy puts his begging sign down and whips out a cell phone! He stands there talking for a few minutes, hangs up and picks his sign back up! Hell, I can't afford a cell phone! Maybe there are some honest ones out there but I can't find 'em. I do see some guys pushing around a shopping cart on occasion, but they are NOT on the corner with a cardboard sign begging. For them I carry around a bunch of large cans of beef and vegetable stew. That has never been turned down...
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