Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria (100)

May 10, 2013 11:14 AM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
Conrad73: yep,lying Gordon Duff!


There's more to that article than Gordon's wild assertions.
May 10, 2013 11:18 AM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961: There's more to that article than Gordon's wild assertions.
like,by his own admission about 48% of the Stuff by Duff is Made-Up?laugh
Would be interesting to find out just who he is working for!
May 10, 2013 11:30 AM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK21 Threads 9 Polls 1,426 Posts
PJ1961: Still not seeing that where there is a will there is a way - people are very capable of changing. Mot an easy task - but also not insurmountable.


People are capable of change but WHY SHOULD THEY! Its not like the politicians who send their people to war are under threat? are they?
Like it or not we elect the power hungry to rule us and then complain about the results. NOTHING will change no matter how 'positive' your attitude. Look at Syria, Where are the 'peace makers'? The west wants to arm the Rebels China and Russia want to arm the current government and the people die. You can be as 'positive' as you want it is not going to stop the killing.
May 10, 2013 11:38 AM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
Jokerman73
Jokerman73Jokerman73Milano, Lombardy Italy20 Threads 202 Posts
Right the death of the poor.. fuels the economy of the rich
May 10, 2013 11:52 AM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: People are capable of change but WHY SHOULD THEY! Its not like the politicians who send their people to war are under threat? are they?
Like it or not we elect the power hungry to rule us and then complain about the results. NOTHING will change no matter how 'positive' your attitude. Look at Syria, Where are the 'peace makers'? The west wants to arm the Rebels China and Russia want to arm the current government and the people die. You can be as 'positive' as you want it is not going to stop the killing.


This is one reason the UN needs to be removed. It perpetuates war. The paradigm is upside down. There no solutions in the social constructs which are perceived as reality today.

War crimes go unabated. World leaders are not held accountable. They all require a big kick in the butt and extended time in jail.
May 10, 2013 12:01 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
Conrad73: like,by his own admission about 48% of the Stuff by Duff is Made-Up?
Would be interesting to find out just who he is working for!


Exactly. But - as he says - within the lies there are truths... so, I was really interested in the disappearances of high value people (very likely real, but details may not be truth) and, most particularly:

"Say Hello to Magnetic Inertial Fusion"


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and
Status of the US program in magneto-inertial fusion
This article has been downloaded from IOPscience. Please scroll down to see the full text article.
2008 J. Phys.: Conf. Ser. 112 042084
May 10, 2013 12:11 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK21 Threads 9 Polls 1,426 Posts
PJ1961: This is one reason the UN needs to be removed. It perpetuates war. The paradigm is upside down. There no solutions in the social constructs which are perceived as reality today.

War crimes go unabated. World leaders are not held accountable. They all require a big kick in the butt and extended time in jail.


But what are you going to do? If the population of a country elect a war monger to power in genuine democratic elections, who has the right to tell them they can't? The world is not going to change because of a 'positive attitude' call me cynical, which I am but I firmly agree with Carl von Clausewitz

CvonC: It is clear that war is not a mere act of policy but a true political instrument, a continuation of political activity by other means
May 10, 2013 12:13 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
fearlessfred001
fearlessfred001fearlessfred001Salt Flat, TX, Texas USA66 Posts
PJ1961: Not to be combative,, but it isn't a local matter when the West has provided Israel with millions, perhaps billions by now, in aid, weapons, and technology.

There are no just wars.


How many millions, perhaps billions, has the West given to these muslim countries. How much of our tax money has been used to buy weapons to destroy a Democratic country?
May 10, 2013 12:21 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961: Exactly. But - as he says - within the lies there are truths... so, I was really interested in the disappearances of high value people (very likely real, but details may not be truth) and, most particularly:

"Say Hello to Magnetic Inertial Fusion"


and
Status of the US program in magneto-inertial fusion
This article has been downloaded from IOPscience. Please scroll down to see the full text article.
2008 J. Phys.: Conf. Ser. 112 042084
and what does that have to do with Duff's usual disinformation Campaigns?
May 10, 2013 12:25 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: But what are you going to do? If the population of a country elect a war monger to power in genuine democratic elections, who has the right to tell them they can't? The world is not going to change because of a 'positive attitude' call me cynical, which I am but I firmly agree with Carl von Clausewitz


I'm working on it from the side door these days, was going at it directly before, but that put me on somebody's radar in a freaky way.

Side door:
May 10, 2013 12:27 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
Conrad73: and what does that have to do with Duff's usual disinformation Campaigns?


it's in the article
May 10, 2013 12:30 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
fearlessfred001: How many millions, perhaps billions, has the West given to these muslim countries. How much of our tax money has been used to buy weapons to destroy a Democratic country?


At least $300 Billion
May 10, 2013 12:34 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961: The UN needs to be removed.

New ways? Permaculture has a long track record of success - a Pakistani friend of mine here has read permaculture info and sees value for his farm and is going to learn more

Fairy world - and what world do you live in? The Military Industrial Complex Economic Paradigm POV forced down everyone's throats for far too long.

I don't buy it, never have, never will. We are smarter than that.

Nothing is as it seems. Truth is real - the constructs of societies are man made.

read the whole article:
May 10, 2013 12:35 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
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May 10, 2013 12:42 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
cool bouquet thumbs up

May peace prevail
May 10, 2013 12:47 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961: May peace prevail
Hi PJ ,israel is root of Conflict and wants to occupy the World ,Evil's Mind
May 10, 2013 12:53 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
Swami
SwamiSwamiVienna, Austria3 Threads 94 Posts
Peace?
Such a nice word.

Today I had a discussion with one of my friend.
We discussed that normal people they just want to have nice life, modest. Just enough to enjoy the life. The question was why we come to fight to each other?
I said because some people have their own dreams (complex dreams), and this dreams need thousends or milions of people to work to make those true.
To build piramids, to conquest the world, etc.
And the stupid people they kill eachother for a stupid dream of one guy.
May 10, 2013 1:05 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
ali110: Hi PJ ,israel is root of Conflict and wants to occupy the World ,Evil's Mind


hey Ali... the US is a big part of the problem too, military industrial complex, war mongers, war profiteers... big 'ol ugly mess
May 10, 2013 1:08 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961: hey Ali... the US is a big part of the problem too, military industrial complex, war mongers, war profiteers... big 'ol ugly mess
Yes Agreed . But PJ Usa has a Positive side as well ,It helps Lots of peoples in the world ,Played a Big Role to Control Violance in Kosovo against Serbia
May 10, 2013 1:15 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
Exactly.

Swami: Peace?
Such a nice word.

Today I had a discussion with one of my friend.
We discussed that normal people they just want to have nice life, modest. Just enough to enjoy the life. The question was why we come to fight to each other?
I said because some people have their own dreams (complex dreams), and this dreams need thousends or milions of people to work to make those true.
To build piramids, to conquest the world, etc.
And the stupid people they kill eachother for a stupid dream of one guy.
May 10, 2013 1:18 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
The US does have its good moments. Unfortunately, they are few and far between and while those moments happen - other, destructive activities go on... pretty much wiping out the kudos gained by the few good actions.

We'd all be better off if war were de-monetized and politics were also de-monetized.

ali110: Yes Agreed . But PJ Usa has a Positive side as well ,It helps Lots of peoples in the world ,Played a Big Role to Control Violance in Kosovo against Serbia
May 13, 2013 2:19 AM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
Checkers101
Checkers101Checkers101terre haute, Florida USA48 Threads 46 Polls 106 Posts
Boban1: No, I do not agree , I do not agree with any kind of killing,raping,mutilating


Again I have to agree, we have every thing we need to live in peace and harmony on this planet yet we kill each other over the stupidest things
May 13, 2013 6:31 AM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
PJ1961
PJ1961PJ1961Somewhere..., Nicaragua19 Threads 2 Polls 905 Posts
Checkers101: Again I have to agree, we have every thing we need to live in peace and harmony on this planet yet we kill each other over the stupidest things


You are on the right path... we all need to believe it is possible to have a different world reality...

peace sad flower peace
May 13, 2013 10:04 AM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK21 Threads 9 Polls 1,426 Posts
ali110: Yes Agreed . But PJ Usa has a Positive side as well ,It helps Lots of peoples in the world ,Played a Big Role to Control Violance in Kosovo against Serbia


Really! That is the most one-sided 'peace' keeping I've ever seen! What is being done in Kosovo about the DOCUMENTED cases of the selling of organs from Serbian prisoners of the Kosovans?? What has happened to the Serb and Gypsy prisoners 'disappeared' from the former KLA base inside Kosovo (BBC)? What has been done about Amnesty Internationals allegations of torture and murder by the KLA of Serbian prisoners?
Where are the 300 young Serbs taken captive by the KLA? 'Peace in our time' springs instantly to mind.
May 13, 2013 10:51 AM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
May 13, 2013 11:14 AM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
Iuchi_Zien
Iuchi_ZienIuchi_ZienSheffield, South Yorkshire, England UK21 Threads 9 Polls 1,426 Posts
What the Kosovans have done to the heritage of the Serbs is the equivalent of Israel bulldozing the Al-Aqsa Mosque yet, not a condemnation in sight? Do you think the same would happen if the Al-Agsa mosque was flattened? The level of hypocrasy being shown, by the west, against the Serbian population of Kosovo is truly breathtaking.
May 13, 2013 11:19 AM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: What the Kosovans have done to the heritage of the Serbs is the equivalent of Israel bulldozing the Al-Aqsa Mosque yet, not a condemnation in sight? Do you think the same would happen if the Al-Agsa mosque was flattened? The level of hypocrasy being shown, by the west, against the Serbian population of Kosovo is truly breathtaking.
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May 13, 2013 11:24 AM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
fleurdelis16
fleurdelis16fleurdelis16Bratislava, Slovakia352 Posts
Iuchi_Zien: What the Kosovans have done to the heritage of the Serbs is the equivalent of Israel bulldozing the Al-Aqsa Mosque yet, not a condemnation in sight? Do you think the same would happen if the Al-Agsa mosque was flattened? The level of hypocrasy being shown, by the west, against the Serbian population of Kosovo is truly breathtaking.

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May 14, 2013 6:28 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Checkers101: The war in Syria has killed thousands and being one of the only secular governments in the middle east I want to know why people want revolution there instead of reform


Because, like in a lot of other cases, the US has brought in covert mercenary fighters from other countries (in this case mostly Afghans and Kurds) , armed them, trained them, and instructed them to conduct a terrorist type war that targets not only the government but also civilians. Then, as always, the US blames the government for the bloodshed and calls for regime change.

If they thought they could get away with it the western powers would form a military coalition and invade the country and to set up a puppet dictator as they have done in other countries. But in the case of Syria, countries such as Iran, China, and Russia would come to Syria's aid if the US invaded. And the US is extremely vulnerable economically. So the west can not overtly participate in the terrorist campaign but can only continue to covertly finance the "contras".
May 14, 2013 6:32 PM CST Do you agree with Israel's attack on Syria
BlueLifeTr
BlueLifeTrBlueLifeTrRidgefield, New Jersey USA19 Threads 16 Polls 148 Posts
I agree completelythumbs up

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