jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
Do you think perhaps increasing people's choices, rather than decreasing them might mean that some people don't feel trapped in an impossible situation?
BelladonnaMaria: Let's reduce our high divorce rates!
Yeah, brilliant idea.
So if you're not willing to loose everything you brought into a marriage, worked for during a marriage will be lost because one spouse is expected to put up with unacceptable behaviour, violence or cheating?
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
" The Romans had an interesting view towards marriage - 'matrimonia debent esse libera' or 'marriages ought to be free'. This meant that either spouse could opt out of the marriage if things weren't working out for them. Centuries later, Victorian England had a vastly different view. People got married and stayed together for better or for worse. Society frowned on divorce and divorced people were likely to find themselves social pariahs.
In the present century, both these views prevail. It depends on which part of the planet you live in and in what kind of culture.
Divorce rates are higher in European or American countries, where individual freedom is given higher stress, than in, say, Asian or African ones, where familial and social opinions cause higher stress.
With globalization, of course, the 'backward' countries are catching up.
Women, especially, with access to higher education and higher salaries, are less willing to put up with traditional roles and expectations.
Social and cultural moralists are having a field day, predicting, like always, dire consequences for the 'social fabric'.
In my personal opinion, the social fabric can go stitch itself.
No, divorce isn't joy-inducing, but then neither is a corrosive marriage. In such a case, splitting up is preferable to staying together 'for the children' or to keep up social appearances. Anyway, it all really depends upon the kind of relationship you have.
Some relationships are worth working on, some aren't."
lifeisadream: " The Romans had an interesting view towards marriage - 'matrimonia debent esse libera' or 'marriages ought to be free'. This meant that either spouse could opt out of the marriage if things weren't working out for them. Centuries later, Victorian England had a vastly different view. People got married and stayed together for better or for worse. Society frowned on divorce and divorced people were likely to find themselves social pariahs.
In the present century, both these views prevail. It depends on which part of the planet you live in and in what kind of culture.
Divorce rates are higher in European or American countries, where individual freedom is given higher stress, than in, say, Asian or African ones, where familial and social opinions cause higher stress.
With globalization, of course, the 'backward' countries are catching up.
Women, especially, with access to higher education and higher salaries, are less willing to put up with traditional roles and expectations. Social and cultural moralists are having a field day, predicting, like always, dire consequences for the 'social fabric'.
In my personal opinion, the social fabric can go stitch itself.
No, divorce isn't joy-inducing, but then neither is a corrosive marriage. In such a case, splitting up is preferable to staying together 'for the children' or to keep up social appearances. Anyway, it all really depends upon the kind of relationship you have.
Some relationships are worth working on, some aren't."
Also, if the person leaving goes onto benefits then every penny spent on keeping that person should be made public knowledge and this should be contrasted with how many special school places could be kept open and how many elderley people could be fed and kept with warm with the same money.
Let it be known how many others are made to suffer and pay for this persons lack of commitment and ill-regard to the consequences of their panoply of choices.
lifeisadream: " The Romans had an interesting view towards marriage - 'matrimonia debent esse libera' or 'marriages ought to be free'. This meant that either spouse could opt out of the marriage if things weren't working out for them. Centuries later, Victorian England had a vastly different view. People got married and stayed together for better or for worse. Society frowned on divorce and divorced people were likely to find themselves social pariahs.
In the present century, both these views prevail. It depends on which part of the planet you live in and in what kind of culture.
Divorce rates are higher in European or American countries, where individual freedom is given higher stress, than in, say, Asian or African ones, where familial and social opinions cause higher stress.
With globalization, of course, the 'backward' countries are catching up.
Women, especially, with access to higher education and higher salaries, are less willing to put up with traditional roles and expectations. Social and cultural moralists are having a field day, predicting, like always, dire consequences for the 'social fabric'.
In my personal opinion, the social fabric can go stitch itself.
No, divorce isn't joy-inducing, but then neither is a corrosive marriage. In such a case, splitting up is preferable to staying together 'for the children' or to keep up social appearances. Anyway, it all really depends upon the kind of relationship you have.
Some relationships are worth working on, some aren't."
Verry good piece of advice that post was ..Strange how humans choose a comfort zone of denial or a "soft place to fall" We live in a world of instant gratification and many people just give up when in actual fact having a lengthly break might just do them the world of wonders & be just be the answer they are looking for.. I believe in doing things in the old fashioned way.. "Till death do us part" Naturally with checks and balances put into place." No Nelly the Elephants running around be they male or female! Even in middle age metabolic slow down leading to battle of the bulge or middle age spread, weight gain can be controled by calorie counting and not exceeding what you should be eating based upon age and body mass index. It can be done and is by far the healthier option to take!
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