Who are you going to vote for in the local elections May 23rd... (136)
under the terms of the GFA a referendum will be held on irish unity no government can stop democracy
oneniceguy11: under the terms of the GFA a referendum will be held on irish unity no government can stop democracy
The border poll on Irish unity is at the discretion the British SOS .
(Have any of you lot actually read the document and understood it's contents????)
Phoenix: The border poll on Irish unity is at the discretion the British SOS .
(Have any of you lot actually read the document and understood it's contents????)
i havent actually read the agreement. a border poll will have to be held eventually there are more republicans on the island of ireland than ever before.(Have any of you lot actually read the document and understood it's contents????)
oneniceguy11: i havent actually read the agreement. a border poll will have to be held eventually there are more republicans on the island of ireland than ever before.
Before you start quoting from something, it's a good idea to read it first..
Phoenix: Before you start quoting from something, it's a good idea to read it first..
so all political parties are wrong is what ur saying ?
I won't be voting as I have nobody to vote for.
snowlynx: Phoenix. Look at the Irish Times website for an interview with Dominic og McGlinchy which appeared on Tuesday. You might find it interesting.
Snowy, tell me things I don't know. I have been debating the merits of what Dominic Og said on Irish republican forums for the past several days...
Why don't you read this article that gives a very different story on the Jean McConville narrative that she was shot for helping a wounded British Army Soldier...
Phoenix: Snowy, tell me things I don't know. I have been debating the merits of what Dominic Og said on Irish republican forums for the past several days...
Why don't you read this article that gives a very different story on the Jean McConville narrative that she was shot for helping a wounded British Army Soldier...
Why don't you read this article that gives a very different story on the Jean McConville narrative that she was shot for helping a wounded British Army Soldier...
Too many articles in newspapers without bothering with ones from websites that have no editing and can be set up by any disgruntled extremist.
snowlynx: Too many articles in newspapers without bothering with ones from websites that have no editing and can be set up by any disgruntled extremist.
Read the article before talking about subjects than you know next to nothing about..
Your 'argument' can easily be turned back on yourself by asking me to read an article in The Irish Times...but you refuse to read what another journalist has reported...
Can't have it both ways...And the website that the article appears is simply a site that has reports from various news sources and the person behind the site is very much anti PFR...(you should get out more)..
WadeWilson: but there is a socialist party down south
why aren't you asking us to vote for them
is what i am wondering
why aren't you asking us to vote for them
is what i am wondering
Wade, scroll back until post 53 and read what I said goes like this
phoenix: If I thought they were socialist in the true sense of the word I would advocate voting for them. But we both know they aren't..
Phoenix: Wade, scroll back until post 53 and read what I said goes like this
oh for the love of god
there is a party called the socialist party
you being a expert on politics in this island as your always telling us should no that
your reference was to sinn fein
so why are you not promoting this party
so the socialist party are not socialist????
what a topsy turvey world we live in
what a topsy turvey world we live in
I had a FF candidate come around to my house this evening, I told him quite politely that under no circumstances would I be voting FF after they economically destroyed the country.
I also said FF were been opportunistic in pretending to be opposed to water charges when the previous FF government agreed to the Introduction of Water Charges with the Troika in late 2010.
The sad thing is I can around 25% of voters voting for FF in the Local elections and they'll get significant support in poorer areas.
I also said FF were been opportunistic in pretending to be opposed to water charges when the previous FF government agreed to the Introduction of Water Charges with the Troika in late 2010.
The sad thing is I can around 25% of voters voting for FF in the Local elections and they'll get significant support in poorer areas.
kennyfromdublin: I had a FF candidate come around to my house this evening, I told him quite politely that under no circumstances would I be voting FF after they economically destroyed the country.
I also said FF were been opportunistic in pretending to be opposed to water charges when the previous FF government agreed to the Introduction of Water Charges with the Troika in late 2010.
The sad thing is I can around 25% of voters voting for FF in the Local elections and they'll get significant support in poorer areas.
I also said FF were been opportunistic in pretending to be opposed to water charges when the previous FF government agreed to the Introduction of Water Charges with the Troika in late 2010.
The sad thing is I can around 25% of voters voting for FF in the Local elections and they'll get significant support in poorer areas.
How do you figure that?
Glatlol: How do you figure that?
In 2011 FF were given an electoral lifeline from mainly poorer voters as middle class voters largely deserted FF for other parties.
FF's supprtbase has historically come from working class voters and I wouldn't be surprised if many poorer voters who voted FG or Labour in 2011 went back to FF in the local elections.
kennyfromdublin: What else did you ask the Shinners who were canvassing in your local area?
He asked them if they could have a 'quiet word' with some local youths who were engaging in anti-social behaviour!
there is a misunderstanding us irish are a giving nation built on christany morals we know deep down, right from wrong. our history tells us this
us irish know how it would feel to go through hard times from our ansters from famine times, grit and determation is our strenght as irish people
snowlynx: He asked them if they could have a 'quiet word' with some local youths who were engaging in anti-social behaviour!
Have there been reports of any "local youths" been kneecapped (males) or tied to a lampost and feather tarred (females) around Stanley's area recently?
what i say now is my own mind here we go
Fine Gael has phil hogan. james reilly.alan shatter.so thats a no for me
FF last time the let imf and eu in look were that got us thats a no
labour has been doing all the cuting have lost lot of TD and take order from FG so that a no as well
People Before Profit Anti-Austerity Alliance Green Party Workers' Party
are all useless do little to noting due there are some very good fella the like joe higgin
eirigi ?
independents there some very good one like shane ross stephen donnelly
so maybe
than there is Sinn Féin who in my opin are the best of a bad buch so il vote there way. they if you listen to what the say they make a lot of sece and i know lot of you will say im mad and i know all about the IRA and the history but there a lot better than the rest
Fine Gael has phil hogan. james reilly.alan shatter.so thats a no for me
FF last time the let imf and eu in look were that got us thats a no
labour has been doing all the cuting have lost lot of TD and take order from FG so that a no as well
People Before Profit Anti-Austerity Alliance Green Party Workers' Party
are all useless do little to noting due there are some very good fella the like joe higgin
eirigi ?
independents there some very good one like shane ross stephen donnelly
so maybe
than there is Sinn Féin who in my opin are the best of a bad buch so il vote there way. they if you listen to what the say they make a lot of sece and i know lot of you will say im mad and i know all about the IRA and the history but there a lot better than the rest
I think Sinn Fein are good in opposition, they are great opposition.
However, I don't think they would be any good in government. They have no discernable policies, workable policies. They are better at rubbishing other policies.
I haven't looked into it properly yet, but I would say I'll be probably going independent.
However, I don't think they would be any good in government. They have no discernable policies, workable policies. They are better at rubbishing other policies.
I haven't looked into it properly yet, but I would say I'll be probably going independent.
mollybaby: I think Sinn Fein are good in opposition, they are great opposition.
However, I don't think they would be any good in government. They have no discernable policies, workable policies. They are better at rubbishing other policies.
I haven't looked into it properly yet, but I would say I'll be probably going independent.
However, I don't think they would be any good in government. They have no discernable policies, workable policies. They are better at rubbishing other policies.
I haven't looked into it properly yet, but I would say I'll be probably going independent.
The likes of Doherty and Mary Lou are behaving the same way as Gilmore and Labour behaved when they were in government.
As you rightly say they have no credible policies that would work in the real world.
They would easily be found wanting if they wver got into government. They appeal to the ignorant and the uneducated who believe in painless solutions.
kennyfromdublin: The likes of Doherty and Mary Lou are behaving the same way as Gilmore and Labour behaved when they were in government.
As you rightly say they have no credible policies that would work in the real world.
They would easily be found wanting if they wver got into government. They appeal to the ignorant and the uneducated who believe in painless solutions.
As you rightly say they have no credible policies that would work in the real world.
They would easily be found wanting if they wver got into government. They appeal to the ignorant and the uneducated who believe in painless solutions.
What an arrogant post. Ignorant and uneducated?
Take a look at your first sentence. Now, who is ignorant?
You're probably the type who votes for the same party Daddy and Grandad voted for.
corkcity2014: What an arrogant post. Ignorant and uneducated?
Take a look at your first sentence. Now, who is ignorant?
You're probably the type who votes for the same party Daddy and Grandad voted for.
Take a look at your first sentence. Now, who is ignorant?
You're probably the type who votes for the same party Daddy and Grandad voted for.
My father voted for Fianna Fail all his adult life until 2011 when he voted FG for the first time ever in disgust at the way FF destroyed the country. I think my late mum voted Labour. I've never voted FF or Labour in my life.
Yes Sinn Fein appeal largely to mainly uneducated voters who believe in their magic money fairy policies that will magically resolved Ireland's ills without any pain for the masses.
Okay in my first sentence I should have said opposition instead of government but my point still stands, Doherty and Mary Lou are 2 populist politicians who will say anything to win votes.
As for Sinn Fein and corruption they are hardly the most squeaky clean party are they? Unless of course people consider murder, rackateering, punishment beatings, bank robberies, turning a blind eye to p*dophile etc to be ethical behaviour.
you obviously have a very one sided view of politics with ur condemnation of sinn fein . there were two sides to that conflict in the north of ireland yet u choose to ignore murder and mayhem carried out by unionist paramilitries and british state forces
oneniceguy11: you obviously have a very one sided view of politics with ur condemnation of sinn fein . there were two sides to that conflict in the north of ireland yet u choose to ignore murder and mayhem carried out by unionist paramilitries and british state forces
I think the Loyalists were equally as bad as the PIRA, INLA etc. The Shankill Butchers deserved to be executed for the brutal sectarian murders they carried out.
Bloody Sunday was mass murder and the Widgery tribunal was a disgusting cover up and other criminal acts carried out by the British Army and the RUC.
As regards Sinn Fein, surely you don't regard them as paragons of righteous moral virtue?
As far as I'm concerned they should engaging in faux outrage as regards corruption in the mainstream parties when quite a few of their own elected reps hands are covered in blood.
kennyfromdublin: Fianna Fail put Ireland into this mess and they'll probably get about 25% of the vote in the local elections. Sinn Fein would go into coalition with FF if given the opportunity.
As for Sinn Fein none of their economic policies are credible, they are completely unworkable eg massive welfare increases, raid private pensions to pay for Infrastructure projects etc.
FG and Labour are Incompetent I agree with you as they are not cutting public spending far enough. We need a political party that will slash public spending and cut taxes drastically.
Things can always get worse and if SF ever got into government the current incompetents who are in government would actually look credible if SF ever implemented their non sensical economic policies.
As for Sinn Fein none of their economic policies are credible, they are completely unworkable eg massive welfare increases, raid private pensions to pay for Infrastructure projects etc.
FG and Labour are Incompetent I agree with you as they are not cutting public spending far enough. We need a political party that will slash public spending and cut taxes drastically.
Things can always get worse and if SF ever got into government the current incompetents who are in government would actually look credible if SF ever implemented their non sensical economic policies.
Not cutting enough? HA
Cut taxes? Are you for real?
This govt are a joke.....implement water charges at the highest cost possible, its just another tax. Will you man the barricades over that?
We have a National School teacher as our leader who will bend over as far as he can for the E.U. He's one eye on a cushy number within the E.U.
Ireland's main policy for years is to screw Joe soap.
As for raiding private pensions, where have you been hiding? How many people lost a major part of their private pensions over the 10 years? They'd have been better off keeping it under the mattress.
kennyfromdublin: I think the Loyalists were equally as bad as the PIRA, INLA etc. The Shankill Butchers deserved to be executed for the brutal sectarian murders they carried out.
Bloody Sunday was mass murder and the Widgery tribunal was a disgusting cover up and other criminal acts carried out by the British Army and the RUC.
As regards Sinn Fein, surely you don't regard them as paragons of righteous moral virtue?
As far as I'm concerned they should engaging in faux outrage as regards corruption in the mainstream parties when quite a few of their own elected reps hands are covered in blood.
Bloody Sunday was mass murder and the Widgery tribunal was a disgusting cover up and other criminal acts carried out by the British Army and the RUC.
As regards Sinn Fein, surely you don't regard them as paragons of righteous moral virtue?
As far as I'm concerned they should engaging in faux outrage as regards corruption in the mainstream parties when quite a few of their own elected reps hands are covered in blood.
Have you the same outrage towards FF & FG for their bloody hands in the past?
Also spending decades kow-towing to the church and ignoring what happened to women and children?
The two parties are exactly the same, the only difference between them is 1922.
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Bombs were going off during the conflict while the block grant was in place. And before...
The GFA has done nothing but increase sectarianism.
And a lot of people want a UI....
PSF don't (no matter what crap they tell you at the door step)..
As for those 'those lazy, belligerents'.. How many those lazy, belligerents are living of the Irish state on hand outs..? That's right there are no jobs for them, so they are exempt...