should children under two be allowed to fly (55)

May 27, 2014 1:39 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
mzetoile: You can't can't lay all the blame on the parent. If you had a problem with it, why didn't you speak up? You could have spoken to the parent or flight attendant.


i can blame whomever i wish... grin

as for speaking up...i spoke with the parent a couples times and he acknowledged the behavior was inappropriate, and he was unable to control his child. letting a five or six year old child run the show is poor parenting.
it was a full flight, wasn't any open seats to move anyone.



wine
May 27, 2014 1:44 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
mzetoile
mzetoilemzetoileUnknown, Arkansas USA1 Threads 201 Posts
jono7: i can blame whomever i wish...

as for speaking up...i spoke with the parent a couples times and he acknowledged the behavior was inappropriate, and he was unable to control his child. letting a five or six year old child run the show is poor parenting.
it was a full flight, wasn't any open seats to move anyone.

It's good you did speak up. It hadn't appeared that way from your earlier post. Sure you can blame whoever you wish from your perspective..but there's more than one way to look at it wink I know you can only say so much as well. Perhaps the parent should have asked the flight attendant to tell the kid to stop kicking people's seats. And some kids aren't controllable. Lucky if yours were
May 27, 2014 1:46 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
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lifeisadream: Another nuisance Jono

There was a lady from lets say European also and she was talking and talking the whole 2:25 hours flight to a guy. The guy said maybe 5 words at the most to her like: yea.

I wanted to hit that lady with a pillow at least but I didn't.


hiya lifeisadream wave

laugh

yah... that could get annoying...
usually i would just put on the headphones and turn up the volume.

i want to be clear here though..i have no problems with kids flying.
i have a problem with poor behavior that effects all those around them. if an adult was having tantrums on the floor, playing loud games without using earbuds, kicking seats, and being a nuisance..there would probably be consequences.
May 27, 2014 1:53 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
mzetoile: It's good you did speak up. It hadn't appeared that way from your earlier post. Sure you can blame whoever you wish from your perspective..but there's more than one way to look at it I know you can only say so much as well. Perhaps the parent should have asked the flight attendant to tell the kid to stop kicking people's seats. And some kids aren't controllable. Lucky if yours were


wave mzetoiole
i'm pretty open minded and worked with kids for years. (both in my capacities of teacher and therapist) so i am aware that some kids are difficult to control. and i'd be the first person to support a parent having a difficult time. however in this particular case, i got to watch for over six hours the interaction between this father and son and in my opinion, the problem was a result of poor parenting.
having said that...i also realize we are all doing our best in each and every moment.

i still think there should be some minimum behavior requirements for children on planes, and consequences for violating minimum requirements.

wine
May 28, 2014 3:37 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
mzetoile
mzetoilemzetoileUnknown, Arkansas USA1 Threads 201 Posts
smile Fair enough Jono, I take your point and defer to your expertise.
(my response was to what I saw as a quick judgement, and a stock answer, which implied to me that every child is cut from the same cooker cutter mould).
tip hat
Jono7: i still think there should be some minimum behavior requirements for children on planes, and consequences for violating minimum requirements.

Yeah I guess so. I don't know what can be done about that.
May 29, 2014 4:00 PM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
jono7: ....


Attendance
Attendant

Sorry I got mis-taken!



writing
Oct 11, 2014 4:12 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
Katiko:
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My son flew first time when he was 6 months and he did perfectly fine just following this simple rules. He cried maybe 5min in all together during 2.5hours long flight. The sound of engine was actually soothing him very well :)


Katiko your advice was the best I have read - and I would just add, that as long as parents must fly with their little tikes, as long as I am not seated near them..... we are all happy flyers. professor
Oct 15, 2014 6:13 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
Katiko
KatikoKatikofreiburg, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany19 Threads 5 Polls 196 Posts
Now, when he is 15months he loves to interact with strangers.
A stranger who would catch his attention could safe all other passengers from a scream and crying more than all the mummy or daddy can do.
I saw it in trains, tramway, or busses already.
It's the age when he needs to try out new things and those are usually forbidden, or to be engaged in some activity. And stranger and their new ideas are always more interesting.
So it could happen it would be better to have you seated close if he would find you interesting or funny. You could save us all :)))
Oct 15, 2014 6:31 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
Dragos1
Dragos1Dragos1Metro, Oregon USA54 Threads 1 Polls 1,982 Posts
Children in the future will be put into a stasis chamber that has many safety sensors and the parents will take a natural sedative. Everyone else will sleep. The pilot will be a BBW Transgender 1st cousin to the Flight attendant that is also a mate. The plane will fly over all countries so as not to leave any one out from the experience. Organic bread with letters made of edible ink will simulate cell phones and anyone half conscious will practice texting. Planes will not use fuel as is not healthy and they will just glide around till someone wants off.
sleep
Oct 15, 2014 11:28 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
Not without the aid of a safety net and hard hat grin
Oct 17, 2014 9:30 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
MADDOG69: More like Sectarian hiring policies in times past. I'd rather drink triple distilled goats piss.

But, whiskey is something I don't drink much anymore, but when I did, it was Jameson Crested Ten.


then just settle on something smooth from Kemtucky :)
Oct 17, 2014 9:31 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
I think a better question is should the parents be allowed to fly.....hmmm hole
Oct 17, 2014 10:51 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Maybe the airlines should have a section just for children.
Oct 17, 2014 4:38 PM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
Dragos1
Dragos1Dragos1Metro, Oregon USA54 Threads 1 Polls 1,982 Posts
Ccincy: Maybe the airlines should have a section just for children.


Padded cargo hold. And then just hose it down after each flight.
laugh
Oct 17, 2014 4:42 PM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Dragos1: Padded cargo hold. And then just hose it down after each flight.




Yeslaugh
Oct 17, 2014 4:48 PM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
ahmad77
ahmad77ahmad77AMMAN, Amman Jordan2 Threads 22 Posts
i work for airline, its true babies do cry during take off and landing which is good for them, its something with the pressure change during take off and landing inside the aircraft.
Oct 17, 2014 4:48 PM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
ahmad77
ahmad77ahmad77AMMAN, Amman Jordan2 Threads 22 Posts
i work for airline, its true babies do cry during take off and landing which is good for them, its something with the pressure change during take off and landing inside the aircraft.
Oct 17, 2014 4:53 PM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Only if they're fully trained and qualified.
Oct 17, 2014 5:38 PM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
xxDandelionxx
xxDandelionxxxxDandelionxxunknown, Hampshire, England UK8 Threads 2,525 Posts
edison324: i have often wondered why young babies scream when a plane takes off and comes into land,the it occurred to me that young babies skulls are very thin and still developing hence the cabin pressure must cause them distress as some times it hurts my ears so what must it be like for a baby who can not tell what is wrong them,,so should they fly at an early age !!!


Its a fair point, my friend.

I just flew back from overseas and there was a baby on board, crying and screaming. It may have been for a variety of reasons but I felt at the time that its not conducive to someone so young that doesn't understand what's happening or what is happening to them (i.e. ears popping, etc). For older children, fine as long as they aren't unruly but for the really young ones, its food for thought, yes.....
Oct 17, 2014 5:41 PM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
MADDOG69: A small measure of vodka 20mins before takeoff would do the trick.
thumbs up

bottle of calpol even and be strapped in like Hannibal Lector! rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 17, 2014 5:46 PM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
xxDandelionxx
xxDandelionxxxxDandelionxxunknown, Hampshire, England UK8 Threads 2,525 Posts
rebel2: Not without the aid of a safety net and hard hat


rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 17, 2014 5:48 PM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
No excuse for kids being noisy and disuptive in public places. Let them get rid of their energy levels in the back garden or the park before you take them to a restaurant or travelling. Kids should be taught how to behave in public from a young age. Too much mollycoddling and spoiling going on these days.
Nov 30, 2014 2:29 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
conroe301
conroe301conroe301Houston, Texas USA7 Posts
edison324: i have often wondered why young babies scream when a plane takes off and comes into land,the it occurred to me that young babies skulls are very thin and still developing hence the cabin pressure must cause them distress as some times it hurts my ears so what must it be like for a baby who can not tell what is wrong them,,so should they fly at an early age !!!


I personally don't see why not, my 4 year old has been flying since she was a month old and she loves to fly. She loves sitting and looking out the window until she gets sleepy and falls asleep.
Nov 30, 2014 7:22 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
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Nov 30, 2014 7:41 AM CST should children under two be allowed to fly
well I certainly wouldn't be leaving them at home if I was going on a holiday which required embarking on an aeroplane!!!!!
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