Pants on fire? (75)

Jan 4, 2015 6:06 PM CST Pants on fire?
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
VivianLee: Most of the flirting and joking on CS is social lying. Some of us do cross the line into pathological lying occasionally / often / always.

Pathological lying has been defined as a chronic, uncontrollable, compulsive need to lie, regardless of the fact that the truth is simpler, the lie is evident, that it serves no purpose, or will have obvious consequences.

Doesn't apply to us, right? How can it matter if you lie, especially to someone you will never meet, and know you will never meet?

But where - and when - do you draw the line?



hmmm...interesting question...

____________________ <------ my line


my understanding of a lie...is to intentionally deceive...

the closest i can come to this would be self-deception by way of denial, and the fallout would be the sharing of my misconceptions with others. but again...not intentional...

so with that in mind, no, i don't lie.

if you put irony, sarcasm and facetious statements aside (as they are not lies)..then i fail to see the prevalence of telling lies in the threads to the extent you have suggested.

why it matters...?... for me, it's a question of integrity...doesn't matter what others think, but it does matter that i conduct myself in a way that i respect myself.

jmo
wine
Jan 4, 2015 7:33 PM CST Pants on fire?
I think there is a difference in playing and being played.

No one likes being taken advantage by deceit. People do like to pretend and to play, and be playful - otherwise we wouldn't enjoy theatre or movies, or the news as much as we do.

Although as Winston Churchill said

A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has chance to put its pants on.
Jan 5, 2015 4:08 AM CST Pants on fire?
Solamente
SolamenteSolamenteAdeje, Tenerife, Canary Islands Spain28 Threads 21 Polls 215 Posts
It's simple...
People lie because they think the person they are lying too will....
1)Think badly of them.
2)Criticize them for what they have done or want to do.
3)Get hurt physically.
4)Gain something that a person does not want to give.
Jan 5, 2015 5:15 AM CST Pants on fire?
Ccincy: I used to hear that if someones lips are moving they are lying.
I seen a girls lips moving one night and i am sure she was lying .....moping
Jan 5, 2015 5:17 AM CST Pants on fire?
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
Good thread.

Has got me thinking.

Personally I don't flirt often on here and when I do it is generally because I find it playful and fun..... I am honest when giving a compliment, but do try not to lead men up a merry garden path to a dead end.

I'm not brutally honest with people on the forums, but honest enough that it sometimes raises a few eyebrows, I'm sure.

I think we do try to spare people's feelings....because we are real people behind the screen. We usually get round this by responding in tactful ways. Some people are good at this. Others not so. Some just don't give a toss.

That's just how I see it.
Jan 5, 2015 5:30 AM CST Pants on fire?
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
If I come across an obvious liar in real life or on here I just ignore them unless there lies can have a bad affect on someone else.
I have better things to think about than wasting my time with them.
Jan 5, 2015 5:47 AM CST Pants on fire?
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
rebel2: If I come across an obvious liar in real life or on here I just ignore them unless there lies can have a bad affect on someone else.
I have better things to think about than wasting my time with them.



Of course a liar whether on here or in real life can never be trusted.

Honesty is always the best policy.

...but in terms of the social flirting that goes on in the forums and blogs are we always brutally honest....or do we tread a little carefully? That's what I thought this thread was about.
Jan 5, 2015 5:52 AM CST Pants on fire?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
VivianLee: Most of the flirting and joking on CS is social lying. Some of us do cross the line into pathological lying occasionally / often / always.

Pathological lying has been defined as a chronic, uncontrollable, compulsive need to lie, regardless of the fact that the truth is simpler, the lie is evident, that it serves no purpose, or will have obvious consequences.

Doesn't apply to us, right? How can it matter if you lie, especially to someone you will never meet, and know you will never meet?

But where - and when - do you draw the line?


Um... it does matter if you lie... and don't assume that you wont meet people on here...

I have met plenty, and in my early days, I took a trip overseas to a meet... It was nice to know and hear it said, that I was exactly as those bods thought I was and going to be..

and, they were all and more that I thought they would be... Kind... super Kind.. so you see,

Never say you wont meet up... you might, and you want people to not only recognise you as your pic, but to recognise the soul that they thought you were... wave
Jan 5, 2015 5:53 AM CST Pants on fire?
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
BerrySmoothie: Of course a liar whether on here or in real life can never be trusted.

Honesty is always the best policy.

...but in terms of the social flirting that goes on in the forums and blogs are we always brutally honest....or do we tread a little carefully? That's what I thought this thread was about.
Hello gorgeous wave
I do not think you misunderstood the thread, I think I did doh
You are perfectly correct in what you say so excuse me please as I am not very bright and I get confused when people use long words confused laugh teddybear
Jan 5, 2015 5:55 AM CST Pants on fire?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
BerrySmoothie: Of course a liar whether on here or in real life can never be trusted.

Honesty is always the best policy.

...but in terms of the social flirting that goes on in the forums and blogs are we always brutally honest....or do we tread a little carefully? That's what I thought this thread was about.



Hi Berry, wave

Oh, I agree, there is no need to be brutal.
Jan 5, 2015 5:57 AM CST Pants on fire?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
rebel2: Hello gorgeous
I do not think you misunderstood the thread, I think I did
You are perfectly correct in what you say so excuse me please as I am not very bright and I get confused when people use long words


Oh hello gorgeous... wave

Jeez, I reckon you are bright enough...

laugh
Jan 5, 2015 6:01 AM CST Pants on fire?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
BerrySmoothie: Of course a liar whether on here or in real life can never be trusted.

Honesty is always the best policy.

...but in terms of the social flirting that goes on in the forums and blogs are we always brutally honest....or do we tread a little carefully? That's what I thought this thread was about.


The only people I would socially flirt with are people I genuinely like and know that they will take it in the spirit in which it's intended.

Lying is something different and I have no time for it
Jan 5, 2015 6:02 AM CST Pants on fire?
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
Merriweather: Hi Berry,

Oh, I agree, there is no need to be brutal.


Hi Merri wave

I mis-read the thread header, I think. I just responded in terms of the social flirting that goes on....for sure...be totally honest with who we are and what we are about....but possibly not so brutally honest with the playful side of things on the forums....we have feelings, after all.
Jan 5, 2015 6:04 AM CST Pants on fire?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
unlaoised: The only people I would socially flirt with are people I genuinely like and know that they will take it in the spirit in which it's intended.

Lying is something different and I have no time for it


Good evening Unla.. cheers

Hot here so have a beer with me... lol.

Truth is, so many of us here, are fb buddies, so lying is useless.. but yeah,

having fun is something different...
Jan 5, 2015 6:07 AM CST Pants on fire?
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
Merriweather: Oh hello gorgeous...

Jeez, I reckon you are bright enough...
Are you flirting with me? Carry on grin laugh wave teddybear
Jan 5, 2015 6:07 AM CST Pants on fire?
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
rebel2: Hello gorgeous
I do not think you misunderstood the thread, I think I did
You are perfectly correct in what you say so excuse me please as I am not very bright and I get confused when people use long words



Hiya Reb wave

Just seen your post.

Ha ha.....I was confused too. You had me thinking, did I read it wrong.

How are you doing? hug
Jan 5, 2015 6:07 AM CST Pants on fire?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
Merriweather: Good evening Unla..

Hot here so have a beer with me... lol.

Truth is, so many of us here, are fb buddies, so lying is useless.. but yeah,

having fun is something different...


Hiya Merri wave

I hear it's very hot over there....cold here, so I'll stick with tea while you have a cold brew beer

Yes exactly, besides, you need a damned good memory to be a liar laugh
Jan 5, 2015 6:09 AM CST Pants on fire?
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
BerrySmoothie: Hiya Reb

Just seen your post.

Ha ha.....I was confused too. You had me thinking, did I read it wrong.

How are you doing?
Hiya Berry wave Don't worry about it. I have spent all my life being confused and I quite like it grin bouquet
Jan 5, 2015 6:10 AM CST Pants on fire?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
rebel2: Hiya Berry Don't worry about it. I have spent all my life being confused and I quite like it


Heya Trouble! wave hug
Jan 5, 2015 6:11 AM CST Pants on fire?
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
unlaoised: Heya Trouble!
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell hello gorgeous batting
Hello nuisance! wave hug bouquet <-------- freshly stolen grin
Jan 5, 2015 6:12 AM CST Pants on fire?
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
unlaoised: The only people I would socially flirt with are people I genuinely like and know that they will take it in the spirit in which it's intended.

Lying is something different and I have no time for it



thumbs up
Jan 5, 2015 6:12 AM CST Pants on fire?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
rebel2: Are you flirting with me? Carry on


Absolutely... thumbs up

You are one such fella that we can all flirt with, and you just take it in your stride... and that is pretty well what Miss Berry is talking about... just easy peasy, without getting all funny about it... teddybear
Jan 5, 2015 6:14 AM CST Pants on fire?
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
Merriweather: Absolutely...

You are one such fella that we can all flirt with, and you just take it in your stride... and that is pretty well what Miss Berry is talking about... just easy peasy, without getting all funny about it...
Awww, and I really appreciate the lovely ladies on here that humour me and have a giggle with me.
I still fancy them all though doh grin teddybear
Jan 5, 2015 6:14 AM CST Pants on fire?
I agree that lieing is bad.....but we are vey lucky on here.because everyone tells the truth....when people make comments to me like:,,,......your the best thing on here...since sliced bread....I know....they are telling the truth...with their hand ,on their heart.s....or bible.......professor giggle giggle giggle
Jan 5, 2015 6:15 AM CST Pants on fire?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
rebel2: Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell hello gorgeous
Hello nuisance! <-------- freshly stolen


Oh thank you!giggle You're so naughty! teddybear
Jan 5, 2015 6:15 AM CST Pants on fire?
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
unlaoised: Oh thank you! You're so naughty!
You have heard then? blushing teddybear
Jan 5, 2015 6:16 AM CST Pants on fire?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
rebel2: You have heard then?


Oh boy, have I heard!? You have no idea what I've heard about you batting

teddybear
Jan 5, 2015 6:17 AM CST Pants on fire?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
unlaoised: Hiya Merri

I hear it's very hot over there....cold here, so I'll stick with tea while you have a cold brew

Yes exactly, besides, you need a damned good memory to be a liar


Rightiho... here's your cuppa... coffee to warm you up..

I have not much memory as it is... getting old you understand... laugh

so I couldn't pull it off if I wanted to... laugh

Night from this end... and its cooled down enough to be nice for the moment, but going up again tomorrow... not 40 tho... just high 30's... thankfully...

Have a great day , cheeri bye... laugh
Jan 5, 2015 6:17 AM CST Pants on fire?
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
unlaoised: Oh boy, have I heard!? You have no idea what I've heard about you
Okay, how much is this going to cost me? doh
Jan 5, 2015 6:20 AM CST Pants on fire?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
Merriweather: Rightiho... here's your cuppa... to warm you up..

I have not much memory as it is... getting old you understand...

so I couldn't pull it off if I wanted to...

Night from this end... and its cooled down enough to be nice for the moment, but going up again tomorrow... not 40 tho... just high 30's... thankfully...

Have a great day , cheeri bye...


Ack! only high 30s! I hope you have a pool or sea to cool off in.

Thank you for the cuppa....the heating is on, it's drizzling and grey outside and ..well....bah! mumbling

Have a super evening bouquet
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