VivianLee: Most of the flirting and joking on CS is social lying. Some of us do cross the line into pathological lying occasionally / often / always.
Pathological lying has been defined as a chronic, uncontrollable, compulsive need to lie, regardless of the fact that the truth is simpler, the lie is evident, that it serves no purpose, or will have obvious consequences.
Doesn't apply to us, right? How can it matter if you lie, especially to someone you will never meet, and know you will never meet?
But where - and when - do you draw the line?
hmmm...interesting question...
____________________ <------ my line
my understanding of a lie...is to intentionally deceive...
the closest i can come to this would be self-deception by way of denial, and the fallout would be the sharing of my misconceptions with others. but again...not intentional...
so with that in mind, no, i don't lie.
if you put irony, sarcasm and facetious statements aside (as they are not lies)..then i fail to see the prevalence of telling lies in the threads to the extent you have suggested.
why it matters...?... for me, it's a question of integrity...doesn't matter what others think, but it does matter that i conduct myself in a way that i respect myself.
I think there is a difference in playing and being played.
No one likes being taken advantage by deceit. People do like to pretend and to play, and be playful - otherwise we wouldn't enjoy theatre or movies, or the news as much as we do.
Although as Winston Churchill said
A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has chance to put its pants on.
It's simple... People lie because they think the person they are lying too will.... 1)Think badly of them. 2)Criticize them for what they have done or want to do. 3)Get hurt physically. 4)Gain something that a person does not want to give.
BerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand4,733 posts
Good thread.
Has got me thinking.
Personally I don't flirt often on here and when I do it is generally because I find it playful and fun..... I am honest when giving a compliment, but do try not to lead men up a merry garden path to a dead end.
I'm not brutally honest with people on the forums, but honest enough that it sometimes raises a few eyebrows, I'm sure.
I think we do try to spare people's feelings....because we are real people behind the screen. We usually get round this by responding in tactful ways. Some people are good at this. Others not so. Some just don't give a toss.
If I come across an obvious liar in real life or on here I just ignore them unless there lies can have a bad affect on someone else. I have better things to think about than wasting my time with them.
BerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand4,733 posts
rebel2: If I come across an obvious liar in real life or on here I just ignore them unless there lies can have a bad affect on someone else. I have better things to think about than wasting my time with them.
Of course a liar whether on here or in real life can never be trusted.
Honesty is always the best policy.
...but in terms of the social flirting that goes on in the forums and blogs are we always brutally honest....or do we tread a little carefully? That's what I thought this thread was about.
MerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
VivianLee: Most of the flirting and joking on CS is social lying. Some of us do cross the line into pathological lying occasionally / often / always.
Pathological lying has been defined as a chronic, uncontrollable, compulsive need to lie, regardless of the fact that the truth is simpler, the lie is evident, that it serves no purpose, or will have obvious consequences.
Doesn't apply to us, right? How can it matter if you lie, especially to someone you will never meet, and know you will never meet?
But where - and when - do you draw the line?
Um... it does matter if you lie... and don't assume that you wont meet people on here...
I have met plenty, and in my early days, I took a trip overseas to a meet... It was nice to know and hear it said, that I was exactly as those bods thought I was and going to be..
and, they were all and more that I thought they would be... Kind... super Kind.. so you see,
Never say you wont meet up... you might, and you want people to not only recognise you as your pic, but to recognise the soul that they thought you were...
BerrySmoothie: Of course a liar whether on here or in real life can never be trusted.
Honesty is always the best policy.
...but in terms of the social flirting that goes on in the forums and blogs are we always brutally honest....or do we tread a little carefully? That's what I thought this thread was about.
Hello gorgeous I do not think you misunderstood the thread, I think I did You are perfectly correct in what you say so excuse me please as I am not very bright and I get confused when people use long words
MerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
BerrySmoothie: Of course a liar whether on here or in real life can never be trusted.
Honesty is always the best policy.
...but in terms of the social flirting that goes on in the forums and blogs are we always brutally honest....or do we tread a little carefully? That's what I thought this thread was about.
MerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
rebel2: Hello gorgeous I do not think you misunderstood the thread, I think I did You are perfectly correct in what you say so excuse me please as I am not very bright and I get confused when people use long words
BerrySmoothie: Of course a liar whether on here or in real life can never be trusted.
Honesty is always the best policy.
...but in terms of the social flirting that goes on in the forums and blogs are we always brutally honest....or do we tread a little carefully? That's what I thought this thread was about.
The only people I would socially flirt with are people I genuinely like and know that they will take it in the spirit in which it's intended.
Lying is something different and I have no time for it
BerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand4,733 posts
Merriweather: Hi Berry,
Oh, I agree, there is no need to be brutal.
Hi Merri
I mis-read the thread header, I think. I just responded in terms of the social flirting that goes on....for sure...be totally honest with who we are and what we are about....but possibly not so brutally honest with the playful side of things on the forums....we have feelings, after all.
MerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
unlaoised: The only people I would socially flirt with are people I genuinely like and know that they will take it in the spirit in which it's intended.
Lying is something different and I have no time for it
Good evening Unla..
Hot here so have a beer with me... lol.
Truth is, so many of us here, are fb buddies, so lying is useless.. but yeah,
BerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand4,733 posts
rebel2: Hello gorgeous I do not think you misunderstood the thread, I think I did You are perfectly correct in what you say so excuse me please as I am not very bright and I get confused when people use long words
Hiya Reb
Just seen your post.
Ha ha.....I was confused too. You had me thinking, did I read it wrong.
BerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand4,733 posts
unlaoised: The only people I would socially flirt with are people I genuinely like and know that they will take it in the spirit in which it's intended.
Lying is something different and I have no time for it
MerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
rebel2: Are you flirting with me? Carry on
Absolutely...
You are one such fella that we can all flirt with, and you just take it in your stride... and that is pretty well what Miss Berry is talking about... just easy peasy, without getting all funny about it...
You are one such fella that we can all flirt with, and you just take it in your stride... and that is pretty well what Miss Berry is talking about... just easy peasy, without getting all funny about it...
Awww, and I really appreciate the lovely ladies on here that humour me and have a giggle with me. I still fancy them all though
I agree that lieing is bad.....but we are vey lucky on here.because everyone tells the truth....when people make comments to me like:,,,......your the best thing on here...since sliced bread....I know....they are telling the truth...with their hand ,on their heart.s....or bible.......
MerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
unlaoised: Hiya Merri
I hear it's very hot over there....cold here, so I'll stick with tea while you have a cold brew
Yes exactly, besides, you need a damned good memory to be a liar
Rightiho... here's your cuppa... to warm you up..
I have not much memory as it is... getting old you understand...
so I couldn't pull it off if I wanted to...
Night from this end... and its cooled down enough to be nice for the moment, but going up again tomorrow... not 40 tho... just high 30's... thankfully...
Merriweather: Rightiho... here's your cuppa... to warm you up..
I have not much memory as it is... getting old you understand...
so I couldn't pull it off if I wanted to...
Night from this end... and its cooled down enough to be nice for the moment, but going up again tomorrow... not 40 tho... just high 30's... thankfully...
Have a great day , cheeri bye...
Ack! only high 30s! I hope you have a pool or sea to cool off in.
Thank you for the cuppa....the heating is on, it's drizzling and grey outside and ..well....bah!
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Pathological lying has been defined as a chronic, uncontrollable, compulsive need to lie, regardless of the fact that the truth is simpler, the lie is evident, that it serves no purpose, or will have obvious consequences.
Doesn't apply to us, right? How can it matter if you lie, especially to someone you will never meet, and know you will never meet?
But where - and when - do you draw the line?
hmmm...interesting question...
____________________ <------ my line
my understanding of a lie...is to intentionally deceive...
the closest i can come to this would be self-deception by way of denial, and the fallout would be the sharing of my misconceptions with others. but again...not intentional...
so with that in mind, no, i don't lie.
if you put irony, sarcasm and facetious statements aside (as they are not lies)..then i fail to see the prevalence of telling lies in the threads to the extent you have suggested.
why it matters...?... for me, it's a question of integrity...doesn't matter what others think, but it does matter that i conduct myself in a way that i respect myself.
jmo