do bi -polar people need certain things done for them I didn't know that is was that debilitating
Its a really debilitating illness LL - it is controllable at either extreme but the bit in the middle is where people may find themseves out of their depth......
if a person is experiencing an episode and happens to be in the compaany of someone with no experience of these things then it could get ttricky.......
Most people luckily and however, wouldnt over-react and would just allow the situation to calm down before allowing reactions of any kind............
My fiend Billy for instance, he would be on the verge of freaking but it didnt take much to get him to see that it was his own perceptions that were making him react - he inevitably was cool once he saw nobody was trying to get anything over on anybody else - yes, a hard work night out - but easy when balanced against the expextations of everyman......
waiting here for everyman - make it on your own if you think you can...... Jackson Browne....
livinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland5,879 posts
trish123: Its a really debilitating illness LL - it is controllable at either extreme but the bit in the middle is where people may find themseves out of their depth......
if a person is experiencing an episode and happens to be in the compaany of someone with no experience of these things then it could get ttricky.......
Most people luckily and however, wouldnt over-react and would just allow the situation to calm down before allowing reactions of any kind............
My fiend Billy for instance, he would be on the verge of freaking but it didnt take much to get him to see that it was his own perceptions that were making him react - he inevitably was cool once he saw nobody was trying to get anything over on anybody else - yes, a hard work night out - but easy when balanced against the expextations of everyman......
waiting here for everyman - make it on your own if you think you can...... Jackson Browne....
Ah totally horrid Trish,
Sad,
I really hadn't known that the illness could be so severe ,
now I don't know if my gay friend hid stuff from us,
but in the 3 years I had known him I never saw that knid of stuff going on with him...
I really hadn't known that the illness could be so severe ,
now I don't know if my gay friend hid stuff from us,
but in the 3 years I had known him I never saw that knid of stuff going on with him...
but who knows !!
Gay and bi-polar - thats tough - I happen to think that if stuff isnt deat with, it may well lead to further omplications and often, labelling - Im not a fan of lebelling - but I am a fan of people owning up to their own identities at the earliest opportunity before it leads to further identity problems - sad, but we most own our own identities lest we get labelled
livinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland5,879 posts
trish123: Gay and bi-polar - thats tough - I happen to think that if stuff isnt deat with, it may well lead to further omplications and often, labelling - Im not a fan of lebelling - but I am a fan of people owning up to their own identities at the earliest opportunity before it leads to further identity problems - sad, but we most own our own identities lest we get labelled
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
trish123: ..
Mytbe that person would love the opportunity to be that way too Cristina - maybe they would like people to stop doing everything for them and allow them to be in charge once in a while too - it must be so horrible to have people assume they know better all the time....
Hahaaaaaaaaa
Yeah hon...but you know what i mean, close your eyes and then everything is almost sorted. I just need health hon, just that...i'm wrapping myself
he he - nope - wasnt just quoting, i remember where he beat his woman up too - dont remember much of the story do you? just remember she was a bit of a sleep around queen - not for me to judge.......
livinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland5,879 posts
trish123: he he - nope - wasnt just quoting, i remember where he beat his woman up too - dont remember much of the story do you? just remember she was a bit of a sleep around queen - not for me to judge.......
mbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA16,449 posts
I have severe bipolar disorder and I am probably more sane than most people on this forum...
People with bipolar disorder are like snowflakes...everyone is different. Some may need special care, some are highly functional, some are in between.
Get to know someone before you make a decision weather to date them or not. If you are very uncomfortable with it, then move on to the next person. No harm no foul.
Starlin is right...it is a disease like any other. If you take meds, you can live a productive life. Patty Duke has bipolar disorder...Mike Wallace.
I have severe bipolar disorder. If you met me you would never know. Most people do not want to take a chance to get to know me. I can't blame them....I accept that decision. It's hard though being 46 years old and never married with no children. Alot of people take that for granted, but it is the only thing I wanted in life. I don't think it will happen for me. But I have to keep hoping and trying.
Question: I have been here for more than 2 years. Have I ever been banned? Has anyone seen me lose control and get into alot of arguements? See? I am one of the sanest people here....
He was the man who wrote "dont confront me with my failures, I,,,,, have not forgotten them" he wrote those words when he was 17 - too young to recognise or acknowledge any form of bi-polar..........
mbcasey: I have severe bipolar disorder and I am probably more sane than most people on this forum...
People with bipolar disorder are like snowflakes...everyone is different. Some may need special care, some are highly functional, some are in between.
Get to know someone before you make a decision weather to date them or not. If you are very uncomfortable with it, then move on to the next person. No harm no foul.
Starlin is right...it is a disease like any other. If you take meds, you can live a productive life. Patty Duke has bipolar disorder...Mike Wallace.
I have severe bipolar disorder. If you met me you would never know. Most people do not want to take a chance to get to know me. I can't blame them....I accept that decision. It's hard though being 46 years old and never married with no children. Alot of people take that for granted, but it is the only thing I wanted in life. I don't think it will happen for me. But I have to keep hoping and trying.
Question: I have been here for more than 2 years. Have I ever been banned? Has anyone seen me lose control and get into alot of arguements? See? I am one of the sanest people here....
Ken, I say from experience, you are one of the nicest people here and I feel honoured to call you fried
trish123: Ken, I say from experience, you are one of the nicest people here and I feel honoured to call you fried
Sorry, Trish...the typo on that killed me!
I'm honored to call him friend, too. Ken, you're a really good guy. Someday some smart woman will recognize that and keep you.
And, you're not the only one I know who always wanted to get married and have a family that it never worked out for. My "adopted brother" is wonderful with kids, loves them and showers it all on his nieces and nephews. He's 49, never been married, never had kids of his own...and it's all he wanted. I feel for both of you.
mbcasey: I have severe bipolar disorder and I am probably more sane than most people on this forum...
People with bipolar disorder are like snowflakes...everyone is different. Some may need special care, some are highly functional, some are in between.
Get to know someone before you make a decision weather to date them or not. If you are very uncomfortable with it, then move on to the next person. No harm no foul.
Starlin is right...it is a disease like any other. If you take meds, you can live a productive life. Patty Duke has bipolar disorder...Mike Wallace.
I have severe bipolar disorder. If you met me you would never know. Most people do not want to take a chance to get to know me. I can't blame them....I accept that decision. It's hard though being 46 years old and never married with no children. Alot of people take that for granted, but it is the only thing I wanted in life. I don't think it will happen for me. But I have to keep hoping and trying.
Question: I have been here for more than 2 years. Have I ever been banned? Has anyone seen me lose control and get into alot of arguements? See? I am one of the sanest people here....
You are a wonderful person Ken. I have a really great guy friend in Oregon who is on disability for his depression he takes his medicine and tries to deal with life the best way he can. In a lot of ways he is one of the most down to earth stable people I have met and certainly one of the kindest. However when I dated my exbf a year ago he was a rapid cycler bipolar alcoholic and I was sooooooooooo ignorant and he didn't take his meds. It has been sad to see him go through relationship after relationship since we broke up.
mbcasey: I have severe bipolar disorder and I am probably more sane than most people on this forum...
People with bipolar disorder are like snowflakes...everyone is different. Some may need special care, some are highly functional, some are in between.
Get to know someone before you make a decision weather to date them or not. If you are very uncomfortable with it, then move on to the next person. No harm no foul.
Starlin is right...it is a disease like any other. If you take meds, you can live a productive life. Patty Duke has bipolar disorder...Mike Wallace.
I have severe bipolar disorder. If you met me you would never know. Most people do not want to take a chance to get to know me. I can't blame them....I accept that decision. It's hard though being 46 years old and never married with no children. Alot of people take that for granted, but it is the only thing I wanted in life. I don't think it will happen for me. But I have to keep hoping and trying.
Question: I have been here for more than 2 years. Have I ever been banned? Has anyone seen me lose control and get into alot of arguements? See? I am one of the sanest people here....
That's why we love you Ken. We apprciate you for YOU...not what you may suffer and deal with. You always come strong and are in everyone's corner. That's the best kind of friend around.
My twin brother also suffers from it. On a bad day he knows he needs help. When things go back up again he denies every having a problem. Being a twin I thought I would have it, but I don't. I've seen the destruction it can leave in someone's life. Not only to themselves, but to the family and loved ones. Would I date someone with it? Of course. At least knowing they accept and deal with it, everyone learns and copes. When you love someone, that's what you do. You look at them for who they are, not what they have.
mbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA16,449 posts
Dawn7z: You are a wonderful person Ken. I have a really great guy friend in Oregon who is on disability for his depression he takes his medicine and tries to deal with life the best way he can. In a lot of ways he is one of the most down to earth stable people I have met and certainly one of the kindest. However when I dated my exbf a year ago he was a rapid cycler bipolar alcoholic and I was sooooooooooo ignorant and he didn't take his meds. It has been sad to see him go through relationship after relationship since we broke up.
Bipolar, no meds and alcoholic. That is a triple threat that is very difficult to live with.
One thing Dawn...never blame yourself for his mistakes. He chose not to take meds and not to seek treatment for his alcoholism.
8 years ago, I was in a similar way. I was not on meds and an alcoholic. I am not a rapid cycler which is hell on Earth in itself, but I decided it was time to change my life. I got back on meds and have been sober since June 13, 2000. Your exbf will have to do that himself also. Bipolar disease does not excuse you from taking personal responsibility for your own life and happiness.
mbcasey: I have severe bipolar disorder and I am probably more sane than most people on this forum...
People with bipolar disorder are like snowflakes...everyone is different. Some may need special care, some are highly functional, some are in between.
Get to know someone before you make a decision weather to date them or not. If you are very uncomfortable with it, then move on to the next person. No harm no foul.
Starlin is right...it is a disease like any other. If you take meds, you can live a productive life. Patty Duke has bipolar disorder...Mike Wallace.
I have severe bipolar disorder. If you met me you would never know. Most people do not want to take a chance to get to know me. I can't blame them....I accept that decision. It's hard though being 46 years old and never married with no children. Alot of people take that for granted, but it is the only thing I wanted in life. I don't think it will happen for me. But I have to keep hoping and trying.
Question: I have been here for more than 2 years. Have I ever been banned? Has anyone seen me lose control and get into alot of arguements? See? I am one of the sanest people here....
Keep trying Sweetie, you are special and your special gal IS out there.
As for, Children, at least you guys have a longer shelf life than we gals. I am getting to the age where I will be going in to menopause soon.
So the women out there that have theirfirst child at 60, most likely use donor eggs.
I also have always wanted a family. I have worked hard to save and correct many health issues in my life including fertility, from an early age.
I will use donor eggs, if mine are no longer viable. I will also adopt. I just hope I get a mate first, that is just my preference.
mbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA16,449 posts
sxynite69: That's why we love you Ken. We apprciate you for YOU...not what you may suffer and deal with. You always come strong and are in everyone's corner. That's the best kind of friend around.
My twin brother also suffers from it. On a bad day he knows he needs help. When things go back up again he denies every having a problem. Being a twin I thought I would have it, but I don't. I've seen the destruction it can leave in someone's life. Not only to themselves, but to the family and loved ones. Would I date someone with it? Of course. At least knowing they accept and deal with it, everyone learns and copes. When you love someone, that's what you do. You look at them for who they are, not what they have.
Hugs Ken. We're all proud of you.
Interesting how as a twin you do not have it. I will say prayers for your brother.
I really like your last line...you look at someone for who they are, not what they have....
mbcasey: Bipolar, no meds and alcoholic. That is a triple threat that is very difficult to live with.
One thing Dawn...never blame yourself for his mistakes. He chose not to take meds and not to seek treatment for his alcoholism.
8 years ago, I was in a similar way. I was not on meds and an alcoholic. I am not a rapid cycler which is hell on Earth in itself, but I decided it was time to change my life. I got back on meds and have been sober since June 13, 2000. Your exbf will have to do that himself also. Bipolar disease does not excuse you from taking personal responsibility for your own life and happiness.
If you really love someone with bipolar you can deal with it with them if they keep on their meds. However if you were like I was and really in love with someone else it's just better to not go there. That is my opinion. I have a lot of respect for those who take their meds, and for those who love them, and I don't even try to imagine what you all go through. What I have seen from you on these forums Ken is always support and encouragement for others.
One of most heart wrenching aspect of knowing Rob is when he is down and thought he was unlovable and that lasting love would never find him. We didn't make it but he at least he quit hiding in his apartment and started living again. We just got out and tried to have a good time. It is hard to maintain a friendship with him sometimes especially when he is down as he will say things that can be quite hurtful. Really though everyone's personality aside from the disorder is different and if you are a kind person it will come through if you are selfish it will come through also. Just my opinion of course and I mean no harm to anyone by my limited experience as that is what is was. It opened my eyes up to how lucky I am that my moods do not dictate my existence and that I can control them.
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is the illness that bad???
do bi -polar people need certain things done for them I didn't know that is was that debilitating
Its a really debilitating illness LL - it is controllable at either extreme but the bit in the middle is where people may find themseves out of their depth......
if a person is experiencing an episode and happens to be in the compaany of someone with no experience of these things then it could get ttricky.......
Most people luckily and however, wouldnt over-react and would just allow the situation to calm down before allowing reactions of any kind............
My fiend Billy for instance, he would be on the verge of freaking but it didnt take much to get him to see that it was his own perceptions that were making him react - he inevitably was cool once he saw nobody was trying to get anything over on anybody else - yes, a hard work night out - but easy when balanced against the expextations of everyman......
waiting here for everyman - make it on your own if you think you can...... Jackson Browne....