QUEENOFANGELS: Thank you Vinny for that posting as it touches my heart greatly. I agree with you and do believe that if a person is willing to acknowledge and seek help that they can have a very good life.
He is a truly fortunate person that he has been willing to do this, and I see no reason why he could not have a very loving relationship if that is what he wants.
On the side of this coin, I see my error as well, and that is that if a person does not want to help themself, no matter how much you love them, you cannot help them.
Love, Maria
Thanks Maria,
Once into a r/ship, and you were committed to helping him in so many ways, it can be very hard to end it. You were just being human.
QUEENOFANGELS: Thank you Vinny for that posting as it touches my heart greatly. I agree with you and do believe that if a person is willing to acknowledge and seek help that they can have a very good life.
He is a truly fortunate person that he has been willing to do this, and I see no reason why he could not have a very loving relationship if that is what he wants.
On the side of this coin, I see my error as well, and that is that if a person does not want to help themself, no matter how much you love them, you cannot help them.
Love, Maria
Very true. You can only help yourself, or another if they are willing to help themself...you cannot help them despite themselves.
druidess6308: Very true. You can only help yourself, or another if they are willing to help themself...you cannot help them despite themselves.
Believe me, I learned this as I watched my late husband refuse alternative therapies, even with the encouragement of his doctor, and choose to die rather than fight. It's sad, but it's true. We really can't help them despite themselves, no matter how much we love them.
druidess6308: druidess6308: Very true. You can only help yourself, or another if they are willing to help themself...you cannot help them despite themselves.
Believe me, I learned this as I watched my late husband refuse alternative therapies, even with the encouragement of his doctor, and choose to die rather than fight. It's sad, but it's true. We really can't help them despite themselves, no matter how much we love them.
Thank you. You words mean a lot and you your heart is so filled with love that it reaches through into the words you type.
This has been a very nice thread. It's always nice to meet another person who has lived through similar experiences.
It has been some time now, and I choose to stay alone and work on myself, my own goals, and really become clear about what I wanted in my life, and be patient for the right person.
However, I still pray and send my love. This was definately I very hard lesson in life for me.
What a nice thread to end the day with. Thank you D and Vinny.
Well, my daughter requested meat loaf and the timer should be going off right about now, so I leave you as you lay and wish you well.
May GREAT LOVE and Happiness be with you over the Holiday Season.
LACaliSouthern California, California USA936 posts
QUEENOFANGELS: Thank you. You words mean a lot and you your heart is so filled with love that it reaches through into the words you type.
This has been a very nice thread. It's always nice to meet another person who has lived through similar experiences.
It has been some time now, and I choose to stay alone and work on myself, my own goals, and really become clear about what I wanted in my life, and be patient for the right person.
However, I still pray and send my love. This was definately I very hard lesson in life for me.
What a nice thread to end the day with. Thank you D and Vinny.
Well, my daughter requested meat loaf and the timer should be going off right about now, so I leave you as you lay and wish you well.
May GREAT LOVE and Happiness be with you over the Holiday Season.
Love, Maria
You have a great big heart Maria, I've seen that in our interactions. You deserve someone special and he's on his way.
QUEENOFANGELS: Thank you. You words mean a lot and you your heart is so filled with love that it reaches through into the words you type.
This has been a very nice thread. It's always nice to meet another person who has lived through similar experiences.
It has been some time now, and I choose to stay alone and work on myself, my own goals, and really become clear about what I wanted in my life, and be patient for the right person.
However, I still pray and send my love. This was definately I very hard lesson in life for me.
What a nice thread to end the day with. Thank you D and Vinny.
Well, my daughter requested meat loaf and the timer should be going off right about now, so I leave you as you lay and wish you well.
May GREAT LOVE and Happiness be with you over the Holiday Season.
Love, Maria
Thank you. I'm glad it comes through. It's the core of who I am. I am often truly humbled by the awesome people on here and how much I am loved. And it's returned tenfold.
Heck, as long as the person stays on their meds .... bipolar is an illness...just like diabetics. If a diabetic stops taking their meds they can die, so can a bipolar person. The best book on the subject is call 'manic depression' its a book about the disorder and how to live with it. Bipolar people d not deal well with emotional stress....they need peaceful and stable lives that's all.
mbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA16,449 posts
mbcasey: Hi Jason...
I have bipolar disease and met an incredible woman here. It can happen. You just have to stay with the program and take care of yourself.
I also dated a woman with bipolar disease. The disease is like snowflakes...each and every one is different. We didn't break up because either one of us were bipolar.
Good luck Jason and keep searching. You will find a woman as wonderful as I have.
I am rescinding my answer.
I don't know anymore Jason. Just keep trying and I hope it happens for the both of us....
Its tough for people with bi-polar, the meds can need changing so often and if you live in a country that values money above peace of mind then you are in for a hard time of it as the latest treatments can be so prohibitively expensive......
sad that it comes down to money......
Yes, I would date a bi-polar person as they are often so much more aware of the struggles that people have to face in life in general........
hi im ozz it took my dr and phd 25 yers to diegnose me i suferd meny yers of depreshon i was nevr diegnosed as manic but after 25 yers my dr went to a meating in tronto and it was on bypoler disorder i went on meds and its like some one ternd on the lites i have bean abel to to deal with my emoshons with my rage witch is awsom i get control of my self and se things clearer im more rashenl i still syikel but its controlabull im deslexic from som brain damig at 6 months of age witch im sher it helpt me to be come bypoler
to those of you just starting meds stick with it the benafits are for the best for you it will also help that speshl person understand you better and give you the chance to bild a good strong helthey relashon ship if i had of knowin i was by poler i may have saved my merrig im sher im a singl father of 11 yer old boy
yes if i met another woman ho is bypoler id sher my meds and it wold be grate lol
mbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA16,449 posts
walley: hi im ozz it took my dr and phd 25 yers to diegnose me i suferd meny yers of depreshon i was nevr diegnosed as manic but after 25 yers my dr went to a meating in tronto and it was on bypoler disorder i went on meds and its like some one ternd on the lites i have bean abel to to deal with my emoshons with my rage witch is awsom i get control of my self and se things clearer im more rashenl i still syikel but its controlabull im deslexic from som brain damig at 6 months of age witch im sher it helpt me to be come bypoler
to those of you just starting meds stick with it the benafits are for the best for you it will also help that speshl person understand you better and give you the chance to bild a good strong helthey relashon ship if i had of knowin i was by poler i may have saved my merrig im sher im a singl father of 11 yer old boy yes if i met another woman ho is bypoler id sher my meds and it wold be grate lol
Glad you found relief ozz. Good luck to you and I hope you will meet someone soon.
walley: hi im ozz it took my dr and phd 25 yers to diegnose me i suferd meny yers of depreshon i was nevr diegnosed as manic but after 25 yers my dr went to a meating in tronto and it was on bypoler disorder i went on meds and its like some one ternd on the lites i have bean abel to to deal with my emoshons with my rage witch is awsom i get control of my self and se things clearer im more rashenl i still syikel but its controlabull im deslexic from som brain damig at 6 months of age witch im sher it helpt me to be come bypoler
to those of you just starting meds stick with it the benafits are for the best for you it will also help that speshl person understand you better and give you the chance to bild a good strong helthey relashon ship if i had of knowin i was by poler i may have saved my merrig im sher im a singl father of 11 yer old boy yes if i met another woman ho is bypoler id sher my meds and it wold be grate lol
Im not bi-polar but have friends who are and I feel for you
gozoman2: Feeling and offering support is one thing...but believe me.....
and certainly with no offense to anybody meant........
being head over heels and living with them is a very, but very difficult thing to do.
It can cause enough trauma to disrupt your normal life and finally make you walk away.
Been there.....
still not saying bi-polar condition should stop anybody from having a relationship with, but certainly to be aware that it will be different.
I know, this is a very difficult situation sadly..... one of my best all time long term friends is now in long term care with something that started out as bi-polar, it kept getting swept under the table and excused - anything but treated! now his life is screwed as well as those of his parents and siblings - its very sad to my mind that money is more important than treatment in many of these cases..........
gussi: When you first meet someone, you dont know that they suffer from a bipolar disorder. The bpd doesnt appear till a lot later. If the feelings are very strong for this person then why would you want to dump them. Some of the best therapy available is Tender Loving Care, not shrinks, medication etc.
yes...I am bi-polar. And I am a creative ans as many people know, I am a very sensitive man!!
Seriously...I am Bi-Polar. And I live a very normal life. I take medication the same as a diabetic or cardiac patient does.
We need to learn that mental health is no different than physical health. Most things can be controlled through proper medication. the problem arises when meds are not properly administered or irratically taken.
Also, it is hard to find the right meds for a person with BPD because they frequently forget to take Rx, and they sometimes quit taking it when they feel better.
But a person with BPD who is properly medicated is as "normal" as anyone.
I didn't take my meds yet today, SO DON'T PISS ME OFF!!
pretzelman: yes...I am bi-polar. And I am a creative ans as many people know, I am a very sensitive man!! Seriously...I am Bi-Polar. And I live a very normal life. I take medication the same as a diabetic or cardiac patient does.
We need to learn that mental health is no different than physical health. Most things can be controlled through proper medication. the problem arises when meds are not properly administered or irratically taken.
Also, it is hard to find the right meds for a person with BPD because they frequently forget to take Rx, and they sometimes quit taking it when they feel better.
But a person with BPD who is properly medicated is as "normal" as anyone.I didn't take my meds yet today, SO DON'T PISS ME OFF!!
Hey Shippy I wont piss yopu off OK I kno where you are coming from - my friend Billy is locked up long term and it isnt his fault, he was top in school, got the best motorbike in england late 70's, incredibly intelligent person - he was just a tad before his time so they called him mad.............
cristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands17,243 posts
I wouldn't because i'm tired of being always responsible. I need someone stable so i can relax a bit, someone i can be, feel stupid most of the time and he will take care of the situation
cristina: I wouldn't because i'm tired of being always responsible. I need someone stable so i can relax a bit, someone i can be, feel stupid most of the time and he will take care of the situation
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Mytbe that person would love the opportunity to be that way too Cristina - maybe they would like people to stop doing everything for them and allow them to be in charge once in a while too - it must be so horrible to have people assume they know better all the time....
livinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland5,879 posts
trish123: ..
Mytbe that person would love the opportunity to be that way too Cristina - maybe they would like people to stop doing everything for them and allow them to be in charge once in a while too - it must be so horrible to have people assume they know better all the time....
really Trish ,
is the illness that bad???
do bi -polar people need certain things done for them
do bi -polar people need certain things done for them I didn't know that is was that debilitating
I dont think it is myself LL, I do thimk the carers tend to overstep control though - especially where the meds are really strong which leaves the people suffering in an even worse scenario - that was the case for surein my friend whi is now in long term care - he was never allowed to speak for himself cos his opinions were so totally overridden - yet he used to speak to me of those frustrations in such a coherrent manner - very sad..........
livinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland5,879 posts
trish123: I dont think it is myself LL, I do thimk the carers tend to overstep control though - especially where the meds are really strong which leaves the people suffering in an even worse scenario - that was the case for surein my friend whi is now in long term care - he was never allowed to speak for himself cos his opinions were so totally overridden - yet he used to speak to me of those frustrations in such a coherrent manner - very sad..........
yes very sad indeed
my friend was not like that ,
but it must be because of thier being differing levels ?
But is a disgrace if your friend was treated like that ,
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He is a truly fortunate person that he has been willing to do this, and I see no reason why he could not have a very loving relationship if that is what he wants.
On the side of this coin, I see my error as well, and that is that if a person does not want to help themself, no matter how much you love them, you cannot help them.
Love, Maria
Thanks Maria,
Once into a r/ship, and you were committed to helping him in so many ways, it can be very hard to end it. You were just being human.