Can a Photograph be considered Art (41)

Mar 23, 2009 2:23 PM CST Can a Photograph be considered Art
Vulpine
VulpineVulpineNessa's heart ;), Cork Ireland1 Threads 180 Posts
GoodHeartforYou: Oh man - That Analogy doesn't quite work for me. I'm saying Ansel did not create the scene he photographs, whereas a sculpture is created - made into the statue.


I think you're stuck on one detail!!
At the end of the day, beauty's in the eyes of the beholder. Equally what art is, and is not, are up to the beholder too.
We're all trying to convince you!! I think we should just let you alone. We've made our points, you've made yours. I must say that I find your arguments compelling. It's just that for *me* personally, I had that very same argument in my head a decade ago. I'm happy with what I view photography to be now.
Finally, I think that you might be caught on an 'intellectual' concept, wanting to define something, which doesn't really need to be defined, in fairness it does not.
- Is photography art?
- Then what is art?
- Who's responsible *FOR* the art?
- *IS* it human-kind?
- Or is it something else?? Muses or whoever/whatever?
- And then, how much credit goes to who?
- Who IS the creator OF the art? Man or Muse?
- Man ultimately, did not create the substances which create the paint, the brush, the marble, the canvas, paper or instrument.
So at what point do you start and stop attributing credit, thereby defining what is art? And thereby classing one 'art' as true art, and another as something which was already there...

On and on the questions could go.

Does a definition, or having a classification system, enhance one's enjoyment of the thing itself?? Does it? I'm only asking!!

"A rose by any other name, would smell as sweet"


(Okay, so as not to be a total hypocrite, I REALLY will shutup now, and not make any more counter-points. Respect to your thoughts though.)
Mar 28, 2009 10:12 AM CST Can a Photograph be considered Art
TomNeedsLove2
TomNeedsLove2TomNeedsLove2Radcliff, Kentucky USA5 Posts
Dawn7z: Anything can be art including the way you do your job. It's about the heart, passion and process more than the actual process and of course photography can be art. Have you seen some of the marvelous pictures that people using their imaginations have captured. Zooming in on an old door to the point that someone doesn't recognize what it is. Capturing people emotions or actions. Art can't be relegated to a boxed in idea.


Yes Indeed art is in The eyes & heart Of The Beholder

& The artist whatever the form Ex: " God " Is a Wonderfull

Artist just look at all The beauty in nature & in Most

Earthly Art Forms ................ JMHO
Mar 28, 2009 10:13 AM CST Can a Photograph be considered Art
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
GoodHeartforYou: This is something I had a discussion about with some college friends about 30 years ago who claimed their pictures were art.

My View: A photograph is not art.

Art is something one creates essentially from "raw materials" , such as a painting or sculpture. Art is also created from your heart and mind - such as a Song or a Poem.
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Apr 5, 2009 7:05 AM CST Can a Photograph be considered Art
Barbeq
BarbeqBarbeqHilversum, North Holland Netherlands3 Posts
Hello All,
Of course photography can be art, you are using raw materials there too! it can be also created from your heart and mind, with a lot of passion, which of course can be seen on the photo. Maybe you missed to see really good ones yet. Not just a photo exhibition closest to your place or just a series made by a friend.
You need to be at the right place at the right moment using the right point of view and the right distance and zoom and lights and composition, colours, shadows, shapes, to impress people or to disappoint them or to generate any special feeling, or just to show them how you see the world. Photography can be a piece of art. Lots of bad ones existing though, but most of them because they are the memory of the people involved or connected, another reason is that most people are visual so there are a lot of pix which just look good or repaired by a software became unreal, so just fantasy. Those I do not think as art. You just need to have an eye for art photos, besides the knowledge of your camera and options of composition/light and all. I like macros, most of the time we skip details as in a rush usually, but can be recharging to enjoy nature that close :)
Unfortunately I do not have too much on file, will look into it, Im very new here (less than 24h), like this forum.
Hopefully keep in touch,
B
Apr 5, 2009 7:07 AM CST Can a Photograph be considered Art
takeit4granted
takeit4grantedtakeit4grantednew berlin, Wisconsin USA4 Threads 785 Posts
I'll take color pictures and change them to black and white,,frame them,,definately artwine
Apr 6, 2009 4:34 PM CST Can a Photograph be considered Art
GoodHeartforYou
GoodHeartforYouGoodHeartforYouEarth, Alaska USA5 Threads 4 Polls 218 Posts
Barbeq: Hello All,
Of course photography can be art, you are using raw materials there too! it can be also created from your heart and mind, with a lot of passion, which of course can be seen on the photo. Maybe you missed to see really good ones yet. Not just a photo exhibition closest to your place or just a series made by a friend.
You need to be at the right place at the right moment using the right point of view and the right distance and zoom and lights and composition, colours, shadows, shapes, to impress people or to disappoint them or to generate any special feeling, or just to show them how you see the world. Photography can be a piece of art. Lots of bad ones existing though, but most of them because they are the memory of the people involved or connected, another reason is that most people are visual so there are a lot of pix which just look good or repaired by a software became unreal, so just fantasy. Those I do not think as art. You just need to have an eye for art photos, besides the knowledge of your camera and options of composition/light and all. I like macros, most of the time we skip details as in a rush usually, but can be recharging to enjoy nature that close :)
Unfortunately I do not have too much on file, will look into it, Im very new here (less than 24h), like this forum.
Hopefully keep in touch,
B


You just gave me an idea - Will try it in a Poll (Food is Art?)
Apr 6, 2009 5:15 PM CST Can a Photograph be considered Art
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
The ability to take a perfect photograph is an art in itself.

Whether anyone else appreciates it for example is another matter.

Say for example two snow leppards playing in the snow, thousands of feet above ground level.

The sheer hard work to even be in the position to take that photograph would be astonishing, never mind composing the shot, capturing the moment and then have the technical ability to do it.

Photography is most definitely an art if done well.
Apr 6, 2009 5:19 PM CST Can a Photograph be considered Art
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
RobbieM: The ability to take a perfect photograph is an art in itself.

Whether anyone else appreciates it for example is another matter.

Say for example two snow leppards playing in the snow, thousands of feet above ground level.

The sheer hard work to even be in the position to take that photograph would be astonishing, never mind composing the shot, capturing the moment and then have the technical ability to do it.

Photography is most definitely an art if done well.


I think so too. I love black and white photography, particularly of war zones...they are so moving and real.

Anyway, some of the photos here are real works of art. rolling on the floor laughing
Apr 6, 2009 6:49 PM CST Can a Photograph be considered Art
TheEnglishman
TheEnglishmanTheEnglishmanNewport, Shropshire, England UK7 Threads 520 Posts
buzzy: Yes, but you can use tools and different processes to create a piece of art work with a photograph. So a photo can become a piece of art work.


Greta Question,,,this has been debated up hill and down dale.

For myself,,,,I create things,,from wood and metal. I have an extensive metal machine shop in my garage and I'm often asked to "create" a compromise,,a copy,,an idea.
I use raw materials for my work.
Men when they see the what I can do and the machines I have go "wow",,,and want to know whatI can make.
Most women do not see the possibilities,,just the swarf and the smell....in other words,,each to their own,,beauty in the eye..yeah?

I love taking photo's.
I use an instrument,,a camera and lens.
I search for interesting subjects,,no different to a painter, sculpter or free thinking machinest,,(Yes,, I sculp metal in a way.)
The end results are colourful and please people.
Providing the picture has a certain "something",,,not a snapshot.
Snapshots are really a good representation of the subject..(person,,place,,whatever.)with the wow factor.
I believe I can create a situation by correct use of the camera and patience with the subject to bring out it's best.

I therefore say,,,good photography with good subjects are "ART".
Apr 10, 2009 1:10 PM CST Can a Photograph be considered Art
lorax888
lorax888lorax888richmond, Virginia USA8 Threads 294 Posts
If photagraphy is not art because the sceen was already there, then would poetry or writting also not be art. This would apply to portraits and even abstractions.

Dennis
Apr 10, 2009 1:56 PM CST Can a Photograph be considered Art
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
GoodHeartforYou: This is something I had a discussion about with some college friends about 30 years ago who claimed their pictures were art.

My View: A photograph is not art.

Art is something one creates essentially from "raw materials" , such as a painting or sculpture. Art is also created from your heart and mind - such as a Song or a Poem.


Anything can be an art ..even a meaningful thought

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