Can a Photograph be considered Art (41)
GoodHeartforYou: This is something I had a discussion about with some college friends about 30 years ago who claimed their pictures were art.
My View: A photograph is not art.
Art is something one creates essentially from "raw materials" , such as a painting or sculpture. Art is also created from your heart and mind - such as a Song or a Poem.
My View: A photograph is not art.
Art is something one creates essentially from "raw materials" , such as a painting or sculpture. Art is also created from your heart and mind - such as a Song or a Poem.
Yes, but you can use tools and different processes to create a piece of art work with a photograph. So a photo can become a piece of art work.
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Anything can be art including the way you do your job. It's about the heart, passion and process more than the actual process and of course photography can be art. Have you seen some of the marvelous pictures that people using their imaginations have captured. Zooming in on an old door to the point that someone doesn't recognize what it is. Capturing people emotions or actions. Art can't be relegated to a boxed in idea.
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Dawn7z: Anything can be art including the way you do your job. It's about the heart, passion and process more than the actual process and of course photography can be art. Have you seen some of the marvelous pictures that people using their imaginations have captured. Zooming in on an old door to the point that someone doesn't recognize what it is. Capturing people emotions or actions. Art can't be relegated to a boxed in idea.
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Talk to Ansel Adams
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GoodHeartforYou: This is something I had a discussion about with some college friends about 30 years ago who claimed their pictures were art.
My View: A photograph is not art.
Art is something one creates essentially from "raw materials" , such as a painting or sculpture. Art is also created from your heart and mind - such as a Song or a Poem.
you need to check out some of ansel adams art photos...My View: A photograph is not art.
Art is something one creates essentially from "raw materials" , such as a painting or sculpture. Art is also created from your heart and mind - such as a Song or a Poem.
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Dawn7z: Anything can be art including the way you do your job. It's about the heart, passion and process more than the actual process and of course photography can be art. Have you seen some of the marvelous pictures that people using their imaginations have captured. Zooming in on an old door to the point that someone doesn't recognize what it is. Capturing people emotions or actions. Art can't be relegated to a boxed in idea.
I agree here 
Hello Dawn
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Oops meant to say not about the product although that can be wonderful too.
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pretzelman: Talk to Ansel Adams
damnit....one of these days i'm going to read through, before i post
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buzzy: Yes, but you can use tools and different processes to create a piece of art work with a photograph. So a photo can become a piece of art work.
Yes, I agree.
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jlw45: damnit....one of these days i'm going to read through, before i post ...
I went to an exhibit just before leaving St Petersburg of Ansel Adams's work!!
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pretzelman: I went to an exhibit just before leaving St Petersburg of Ansel Adams's work!!
i love his photo. work...capturing light and angles and whatever else, can very much be art....------ This poll is Archived ------
if your just taking pics of random stuff i would have to say no butt if you actually set up what your photographing then i would say yes ..
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I work in a School of Creative Arts and can assure you the photographs the students produce in the photography classes are Art.
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dcj22: Yes, I agree.
hey D. how are you doing. I think we are in desparate need of one of your good threads!
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adamisk: if your just taking pics of random stuff i would have to say no butt if you actually set up what your photographing then i would say yes ..
What about landscapes and such??? Are you familiar with Ansel Adams?? Just curious??...Look up on Google and see art through a camera lens
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vonney: I work in a School of Creative Arts and can assure you the photographs the students produce in the photography classes are Art.
As a photographer, I wholeheartedly agree with you. But in this day and age when photography is done on digital cameras, I'm a traditional photographer who still uses 35mm film since I was a student at the New York Institute of Photography in NYC.
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As a definition, an Art is a "creation meant to communicate or appeal to senses or mind". And a Photograph is a creation or an expression of an Artist's state of mind.......well, you got the picture. At least these are my views.
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GoodHeartforYou: This is something I had a discussion about with some college friends about 30 years ago who claimed their pictures were art.
My View: A photograph is not art.
Art is something one creates essentially from "raw materials" , such as a painting or sculpture. Art is also created from your heart and mind - such as a Song or a Poem.
My View: A photograph is not art.
Art is something one creates essentially from "raw materials" , such as a painting or sculpture. Art is also created from your heart and mind - such as a Song or a Poem.
Art
Art is a selective re-creation of reality according to an artist’s metaphysical value-judgments. Man’s profound need of art lies in the fact that his cognitive faculty is conceptual, i.e., that he acquires knowledge by means of abstractions, and needs the power to bring his widest metaphysical abstractions into his immediate, perceptual awareness. Art fulfills this need: by means of a selective re-creation, it concretizes man’s fundamental view of himself and of existence. It tells man, in effect, which aspects of his experience are to be regarded as essential, significant, important. In this sense, art teaches man how to use his consciousness. It conditions or stylizes man’s consciousness by conveying to him a certain way of looking at existence.
The Romantic Manifesto “Art and Cognition,” Ayn Rand
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jlw45: you need to check out some of ansel adams art photos...
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pretzelman: Talk to Ansel Adams
Yes, unfortunately he has been gone for over 20 years I believe.
Only 4 people agree with me - have to admit I'm in the minority here.
Even Wiki says - Ansel Adams is one of the first "Fine Art Photographers"
Capturing something that is already there with a machine? a wonderful talent and a beautiful legacy. Not art in my opinion
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Dawn7z: Anything can be art including the way you do your job. It's about the heart, passion and process more than the actual process and of course photography can be art. Have you seen some of the marvelous pictures that people using their imaginations have captured. Zooming in on an old door to the point that someone doesn't recognize what it is. Capturing people emotions or actions. Art can't be relegated to a boxed in idea.
VERY well said. Couldn't have said it *ALL* better myself!
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vonney: I work in a School of Creative Arts and can assure you the photographs the students produce in the photography classes are Art.
Agreed, Vonney. I have seen photographs that are definitely works of art in themselves, and very creative...just as a photo, even digital ones. Then if you add programs like Photoshop and get even more creative with them, you can create original works of art out of a few photos reworked together...an art that takes patience and skill.
My late husband had a Batchelor's in Fine Arts from Edinborough University, and although he could paint and draw just about anything, and had a lot of talent, it was his photographic art that really was phenomenal. I still have a couple of pieces he created on Photoshop, as well as most of the pictures he took. Nobody will ever convince me that he didn't use his cameras as tools for works of art.
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GoodHeartforYou: Yes, unfortunately he has been gone for over 20 years I believe.
Only 4 people agree with me - have to admit I'm in the minority here.
Even Wiki says - Ansel Adams is one of the first "Fine Art Photographers"
Capturing something that is already there with a machine? a wonderful talent and a beautiful legacy. Not art in my opinion
Only 4 people agree with me - have to admit I'm in the minority here.
Even Wiki says - Ansel Adams is one of the first "Fine Art Photographers"
Capturing something that is already there with a machine? a wonderful talent and a beautiful legacy. Not art in my opinion
VERY GOOD QUESTION AND THREAD. I salute you!
I see what you mean. I've often debated this too myself. But a good while ago, after even just 'dabbling', I realised that it was an art to capture what's there, but to do it so very well.
Van Gogh's paintings, which I'm sure, many would agree ARE art (!!), were of REAL LIFE OBJECTS. Things that were already there TOO. Just like objects for the camera lens.
But like a good photographer, it was his interpreted depiction of what was there, which made it art. He didn't 'just paint' a picture. You can't 'just paint' a picture. It has to have a left and a right, a top and a bottom.
It's how you use those that are one of the features which make photography an art form, *I* think. The lighting, the setting, even the *texture* of the shot - all these combine to make that independent entity. It's an independent entity. It's very pleasing to the eye. It can intrigue, evoke emotion in a way which "what was already there" could not.... or was just begging to... Fair enough, you can STILL say, "It was still already there, and had less in its compusure than something which came out of "raw" inspiration".
Okay! But still, that independent entity, you could also call, a *gift* from beauty or inspiration. And if you don't want to credit man/woman with it or only partial credit, then fine too. But that shot still stands on its own as something which pleases/shocks/evokes/intrigues/ whatever, all on its own. Like a fly caught in amber for all time.
Also, though the English language is already just 'there' too, as are all the notes in the universe, a poet or great composer must combine *what's already there* into something which *ON ITS OWN* is a work of art.
To finish with a fantastic quote (which I think is art in itself), a definition of wit I came across many years ago:
"Wit" - "What was often thought, but ne'er so well expressed".
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GoodHeartforYou: Yes, unfortunately he has been gone for over 20 years I believe.
Only 4 people agree with me - have to admit I'm in the minority here.
Even Wiki says - Ansel Adams is one of the first "Fine Art Photographers"
Capturing something that is already there with a machine? a wonderful talent and a beautiful legacy. Not art in my opinion
But then the Statue is already there in the Block of Marble too.Only 4 people agree with me - have to admit I'm in the minority here.
Even Wiki says - Ansel Adams is one of the first "Fine Art Photographers"
Capturing something that is already there with a machine? a wonderful talent and a beautiful legacy. Not art in my opinion
Only need to remove the excess Marble,and that is the Art,to know where and what.
Otherwise anyone could have created Ansel Adams' Pictures according to you.
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Conrad73: But then the Statue is already there in the Block of Marble too.
Only need to remove the excess Marble,and that is the Art,to know where and what.
Otherwise anyone could have created Ansel Adams' Pictures according to you.
Only need to remove the excess Marble,and that is the Art,to know where and what.
Otherwise anyone could have created Ansel Adams' Pictures according to you.
Oh man - That Analogy doesn't quite work for me. I'm saying Ansel did not create the scene he photographs, whereas a sculpture is created - made into the statue.
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GoodHeartforYou: Oh man - That Analogy doesn't quite work for me. I'm saying Ansel did not create the scene he photographs, whereas a sculpture is created - made into the statue.
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A camera, even a digital one is a tool used to capture an image just like a paint brush and a piece of canvas or our fingers fashioning a lump of clay. They are just tools. Why is one tool acceptable and not another? If I write a poem using a pencil and paper would it be less a work of art if I used a word processor and spell checker?
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Anything IMO can be art
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Conrad73: But he knew where to point the Camera.
He also was creative enough to employ a large format camera which is really a large part of the beauty of his work. I'm sure he used a lot of energy and time climbing mountains in the dark lugging heavy epuipment to be at the perfect spot at the break of dawn to capture some of his spactacular pictures.
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Can a Photograph be considered Art(Vote Below)
My View: A photograph is not art.
Art is something one creates essentially from "raw materials" , such as a painting or sculpture. Art is also created from your heart and mind - such as a Song or a Poem.