Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already! (811)

Jun 4, 2009 7:13 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
BrunoMcMahon
BrunoMcMahonBrunoMcMahonHardwick, Vermont USA20 Threads 3 Polls 733 Posts
Indyfella: All those solar panels in Greece pollute more.


I want to know how much environmental damage is done by the battery factories that make the 500 lbs of batteries for the hybrids the left leaners love so well.

Undoubtedly those batteries only produce sunshine and lollipops while the battery factory that produced the one in my gas burner is a hazmat site.

I guess it is a different story if is for one of their toys.
Jun 4, 2009 7:33 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Great way of gathering inofrmation regarding those detainess if their internet connection is under costidy for sure !

So easy to check and getitng new addresses and locations around the world where Alqueda is hiding! We do need all info we can get from these guys and not necessarily under tortur

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I thought you were against those unfair international wire taps?
That invasion of privacy that the DEM were all concerned about.

Here you have these 17 Chinese....all locked up in GITMO....and
their sole contact with the world is the net. And you are not going to let them have private contact? So they can contact women, propose online, get engaged and be able to leave GITMO.

DEMs are cutting back on these guys social development with this
wire tapping program. Sounds awful unfair to me. Maybe a lawsuit involved here....
Jun 4, 2009 7:35 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Indyfella: We must pause on CS for 45 minutes, The Messiah is now speaking on TV. I'm glad he's apologizing for being American. It's about time.


Please note, I went to bed prior to the big moment.
Jun 4, 2009 7:44 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Better studying more and you will probabely know why Tutenkamon is concidered as a very great perosnality in egyptian history and then you will see why compairing him to Obama amoung many egyptians is a great positive sign regarding better realationships between America and around a fourth part of the worlds entire population......... even the Bushnye,s beleive that will be a true disaster because thier weapon industry will suffer and their cold/warm war with muslim nations will fail!


Tutenkamon was barely 20 years old when he died. He was barely a adult. Had inherited Egypt from his father. Off all the Pharohs, he had one of the shortest reins of them all.

Why he died is still anyone one guess.

I don't see how President Obama being linked to Tutenkamon is going to improve US & Muslim relationship. Tutenkamon was not Muslim.
Jun 4, 2009 7:47 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
BrunoMcMahon: I want to know how much environmental damage is done by the battery factories that make the 500 lbs of batteries for the hybrids the left leaners love so well.

Undoubtedly those batteries only produce sunshine and lollipops while the battery factory that produced the one in my gas burner is a hazmat site.

I guess it is a different story if is for one of their toys.


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Anyone putting together the closing of the 29 GM plants in the USA and the shortened work period of the 9 others....is exactly what many tree huggers have been asking for. Sure keeps those plant emissions from causing acid rain and global warming.
Jun 4, 2009 7:54 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
ttom500: --------------------------^--------------------------

Anyone putting together the closing of the 29 GM plants in the USA and the shortened work period of the 9 others....is exactly what many tree huggers have been asking for. Sure keeps those plant emissions from causing acid rain and global warming.


But Ttom, think how good it will be for the economy! And all those foreclosures!!!
Government Motors will save the day!
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Jun 4, 2009 8:21 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
I think that President Obama has less time with getting the US Economy rolling than he might think.

It is the Chinese $767b dollar worth of T-Bills pay back dates.

I read yesterday in a National Geographic article....that since China has gone to a one child per family....the age demographics of the country is changing fast. That by 2015 most of China will be over 50 in age. Yes, China is greying faster with this policy.

That means the Chinese work force that has been the dominate factor in the industrialization and economic boom of China is also greying. Simple, China is soon to face a man power shortage to keep the industries it has running. It GNP is expected to reduce with this fast greying.

Now to connect this to the US T-Bills.

Surely the Chinese know this aging and GNP problem. Could it be that the purchase of the US T-Bills is a 'hedge' by their government to having enough funds for the greying population retirement and medical care program costs? With Chinese GNP to likely fall with the greying, China needed a way to hedge and hold present income for this. T-Bills are term financial documents, meaning they come due at a certain time in the future.

All China would have to do is buy T-Bills according the populations retirement rate. Then would then have enough funds incoming as they pay out to the retirees.

Pretty smart planning.

But for President Obama and the FED, if this process is going to begin in 2015....means he has about 4 and 1/2 years to get the US economy rolling again. The Chinese will not roll the T-Bill over for a second investment, they need the principles for the retiree benefits.

Without the US economy giving the US gov't some major tax and revenues, were does he find the billions to cover these Chinese T-Bills pay backs? We are 'broke' remember? If he does not get it rolling....the good old American tax payer is going to be paying for the Chinese retirement benefits come 2015.

Really it would be pretty easy to verify my theory here. Just compare the Chinese T-Bill pay back date, with the age demographic of China. If they match up, then this is what is going on.
Jun 4, 2009 9:18 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
Hot_Single_Dude: I was not talking to you Conrad! You do not even know what history means! Go back to the shame corner and lift your left leg for an hour
You Poor Excuse of an Egyptologist you!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Jun 4, 2009 9:28 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
PeachesandRay
PeachesandRayPeachesandRayConcord, North Carolina USA72 Threads 1 Polls 1,358 Posts
I'll believe there are positive signs of the economy rebounding when I am able to walk into a place and get hired.
I haven't had a job since Dec and am unable to collect unemployment benefits. I left my last job because I was placed with a bunch of cockroaches who refused to speak english when training me. When they spoke to me, it was in Spanish, a language I don't speak or understand.
There should be a prerequisite for being able to understand and speak English before getting a job in the US.







Earl
Jun 4, 2009 9:31 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
PeachesandRay: I'll believe there are positive signs of the economy rebounding when I am able to walk into a place and get hired.
I haven't had a job since Dec and am unable to collect unemployment benefits. I left my last job because I was placed with a bunch of cockroaches who refused to speak english when training me. When they spoke to me, it was in Spanish, a language I don't speak or understand.
There should be a prerequisite for being able to understand and speak English before getting a job in the US.

Earl
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Jun 4, 2009 9:35 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Here's something interesting sent by a CS friend recently. I googled it and it is true. Very telling, very scary.

Just think about it...


Norman Mattoon Thomas
(November 20., 1884 – December 19, 1968)
Was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America.

The Socialist Party candidate for President of the US, Norman Thomas said this in a 1944 speech:

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But under the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened.”

He went on to say, “I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”


Jun 4, 2009 9:40 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
WhatUwish4: Here's something interesting sent by a CS friend recently. I googled it and it is true. Very telling, very scary.

Just think about it...Norman Mattoon Thomas
(November 20., 1884 – December 19, 1968)
Was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America.

The Socialist Party candidate for President of the US, Norman Thomas said this in a 1944 speech:

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But under the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened.”

He went on to say, “I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”



well, I've never heard that before, but one thing is for sure... it is very very true, and its sad that alot of people walk through life with their eyes closed, but you know what the say... stupid is as stupid does...laugh cheers
Jun 4, 2009 9:42 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Tater: well, I've never heard that before, but one thing is for sure... it is very very true, and its sad that alot of people walk through life with their eyes closed, but you know what the say... stupid is as stupid does...


Yup... frustrated

I'll probably post it again on the other threads just in the unlikely event it can open a few eyes. It's interesting how it's blindingly apparent to some of us, and totally invisible to others.
sigh sigh
Jun 4, 2009 9:44 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
Tater
TaterTaterspringfield, Illinois USA45 Threads 3 Polls 3,326 Posts
ttom500: Tutenkamon was barely 20 years old when he died. He was barely a adult. Had inherited Egypt from his father. Off all the Pharohs, he had one of the shortest reins of them all.

Why he died is still anyone one guess.

I don't see how President Obama being linked to Tutenkamon is going to improve US & Muslim relationship. Tutenkamon was not Muslim.


I think it's funny that Obama seems to be related to anyone who was ever famous...Kennedy's now King Tut...laugh I'm just waiting for them to say that that he is the son of GODdoh I forgot, they already do that,,,laugh
Jun 4, 2009 9:59 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
WhatUwish4: Here's something interesting sent by a CS friend recently. I googled it and it is true. Very telling, very scary.

Just think about it...Norman Mattoon Thomas
(November 20., 1884 – December 19, 1968)
Was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America.

The Socialist Party candidate for President of the US, Norman Thomas said this in a 1944 speech:

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But under the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened.”

He went on to say, “I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”

Yep,saw that on a Site a while back.FDR,the Rich Kid that felt guilty about his Wealth,so he went on and deprived others of theirs.
Incidentally prolonged the Depression for at least half a Decade!frustrated
Now you have another Rare Bird sitting in the Oval Office,believing he is FDR-Incarnate!doh
Jun 4, 2009 10:06 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Conrad73: Yep,saw that on a Site a while back.FDR,the Rich Kid that felt guilty about his Wealth,so he went on and deprived others of theirs.
Incidentally prolonged the Depression for at least half a Decade!
Now you have another Rare Bird sitting in the Oval Office,believing he is FDR-Incarnate!


Well look at the brght side, Conrad. We are witnessing history unfold before our very eyes. We'll be sitting on our front porches someday telling little children all about what America was like when democracy ruled....
doh
Jun 4, 2009 10:07 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
Hot_Single_Dude: so sensitive of you to write this ........

You have forgot the way Bush and the same king walked hand in hand as lovers and the way the Bushnye,s helped Bin ladens fleeing America after 9/11 .....right?

His king????????

Obama needs to get a kind of real peace negotiatios going on soon amoung arabs and Israel so this horrible threat of terrorism agianst us all gets the Hell out of our lives soon as possible!

60 years or so and still they are fighting against each other and the only real peace threaties amoung arabs and Israel were of course created by democrats! How long shall this SH** going on there? What is the meaning of neglegting any kind of real peace possibilities in that area again and again, and what is the meaning of not respecting any condumnation of the occupation from United nations by Israel for so many years?

Israel hates wars and I know they have voten a right winged war lover government on power because of Fear and because that thief and bold cheater former Israeli PM created another stupied war before he left so right winged won again but still.........

Israel loves peace and stability and many of them hate endless wars and some body have to make a real and just peace possible over there! Israelies by definition are peace loving human beings and really their old and treuly deep and beautiful cultur is all about peace and love !

America is able to do this! Israel lives from American money and war lovers in the current Israeli government will have to obey at last, you see?

Obama,s being in Saudi Arabia and then in Egypt is one of the most brave steps of him so far and I am certain it will result in real progress!

They call Obama the new Tutankhamonin Egypt Tater! Think a bout this very carefully and dont say ok then they can have him and Blah blah blah like that! What is wrong with many arabs and arab speaking people are begining to see Hope for a better feauter for the whole planet in the new ellected american president and what is wrong with ending years of conflict and misunderstanding amoung arabs and muslims and americans because of the war in Iraq and because of 9/11 which was not caused by all arabs and all muslis at all?

1,6 billions muslims on the planet and why not just "make love no wars" instead of this Bushney heads BS since 2001?

Some body must dare to do some thing agianst this stupied conflict and Obama is brave and he dares and he is doing it from a very storng position and the man knows how to say things and what to say and actually if Saudi arabia does not stopping the huge flow of money to Taliban in Afghanistan and in Pakistan the neccesary war agaisnt terror in those places will be much harder to fight!

I know the Bushney,s loved their Taliban so they could keep stealing oil nations wealth by using it as an excuse......but now they are Gone and they are Gone big time and America is not the same no more at all!

Let the wise decide and doing things differnetly and see if it works or not before condumnation! I bet it will work and the current travelling in those particualr countries will be remebered... Read a bout Tutankhamon and you will probabely see what I am talking about!
Yep,Young King Tut had some awesome Global Achievements to his Credit.
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Just can't think of them right now!rolling on the floor laughing
Jun 4, 2009 10:09 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Conrad73: Yep,Young King Tut had some awesome Global Achievements to his Credit.

Just can't think of them right now!


Well, he throws one hell of a funeral. Builds one hell of a pyramid, too.
laugh laugh
Jun 4, 2009 10:10 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
Hot_Single_Dude: Says the Swiss! You guys are going to get so much TAXED soon Conrad! Obama guys are coming to get the americans stolen money back and they are not going to allow you to hideno more!

Next time...... Use your own money and not the stolen money of the other nations!
Son,you don't know DIDDLYSQUAT about the Swiss Banking Laws,nor any other Banking Laws in fact.
You're just YAPPING as usual!rolling on the floor laughing
Jun 4, 2009 10:12 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
BrunoMcMahon: I want to know how much environmental damage is done by the battery factories that make the 500 lbs of batteries for the hybrids the left leaners love so well.

Undoubtedly those batteries only produce sunshine and lollipops while the battery factory that produced the one in my gas burner is a hazmat site.

I guess it is a different story if is for one of their toys.
Not only for Hybrids,but Solar and Windpower as well!frustrated
Jun 4, 2009 10:13 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
WhatUwish4: Well look at the brght side, Conrad. We are witnessing history unfold before our very eyes. We'll be sitting on our front porches someday telling little children all about what America was like when democracy ruled....


Or, How Liberalism and Change took roots and Stayed ....scold
Jun 4, 2009 10:16 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
jvaski: Or, How Liberalism and Change took roots and Stayed ....


Exactly what I'm afraid of, Juan. Here is is again in case you didn't see it...

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But under the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened.”

“I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”


Norman Mattoon Thomas
(November 20., 1884 – December 19, 1968)
Was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America.
Jun 4, 2009 10:18 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
jvaski: Or, How Liberalism and Change took roots and Stayed ....
You will find out on your own Butt!
What you're experiencing right now is only the beginning!rolling on the floor laughing
Jun 4, 2009 10:22 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
WhatUwish4: Exactly what I'm afraid of, Juan. Here is is again in case you didn't see it...

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But under the name of “liberalism,” they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened.”

“I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.”

Norman Mattoon Thomas
(November 20., 1884 – December 19, 1968)
Was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America.


I think we're ready for a little "socialism" - especially in the medical area. Free enterpirse with no regulation certainly hasn't helped us any..............
Change ! Call it socialism or whatever ! But CHANGE from the ignorance we've come to tolerate.............roll eyes
Jun 4, 2009 10:25 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
jvaski: I think we're ready for a little "socialism" - especially in the medical area. Free enterpirse with no regulation certainly hasn't helped us any..............
Change ! Call it socialism or whatever ! But CHANGE from the ignorance we've come to tolerate.............


There's a huge difference between regulation and socialism, Juan. So far not one of Obama's "changes" has produced a solution...but EVERY ONE of them has produced additional taxes. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see where it's going.
Jun 4, 2009 10:27 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
WhatUwish4: There's a huge difference between regulation and socialism, Juan. So far not one of Obama's "changes" has produced a solution...but EVERY ONE of them has produced additional taxes. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see where it's going.


We don't need to be a "rocket scientist" so see how we got here roll eyes
Jun 4, 2009 10:31 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
jvaski: I think we're ready for a little "socialism" - especially in the medical area. Free enterpirse with no regulation certainly hasn't helped us any..............
Change ! Call it socialism or whatever ! But CHANGE from the ignorance we've come to tolerate.............
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uh oh
They said the same thing in Germany in 1933,see where it got them.Besides getting Herr Schicklgruber!
The Russians in 1917,and it got them Stalin!mumbling
Jun 4, 2009 10:39 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
drivenbysound
drivenbysounddrivenbysoundSoutheast, Missouri USA12 Threads 3,228 Posts
WhatUwish4: There's a huge difference between regulation and socialism, Juan. So far not one of Obama's "changes" has produced a solution...but EVERY ONE of them has produced additional taxes. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see where it's going.


Would you rather us stay on the same course as per the last 8 years?
Jun 4, 2009 10:43 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
Justme4uok
Justme4uokJustme4uokNorthern CA, California USA28 Threads 5,737 Posts
drivenbysound: Would you rather us stay on the same course as per the last 8 years?



Well I have no complaints from the past 8 years! laugh

Guess it all depends on the affects the last eight years have had on you!!grin
Jun 4, 2009 10:46 AM CST Obama Rocks! Some positive signs in american economy already!
drivenbysound
drivenbysounddrivenbysoundSoutheast, Missouri USA12 Threads 3,228 Posts
Justme4uok: Well I have no complaints from the past 8 years!

Guess it all depends on the affects the last eight years have had on you!!


So you feel by staying the course we're currently on is the direction the country will be better served?

How would this solve the problems of the U.S. today?
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