Is america the most hated country? If yes, what can they do about it? -positive comments please? (194)
Trealach: The short answer to the question asked, "Is america the most hated country? ..." is No. I don't subscribe to the paranoia that Americans are hated, but I do subscribe to the fact that the last 8 years of rule by a cowardly Village Idiot has brought the US into disrepute and grave mistrust because of his administrations Policies and Illegal actions on the world stage. The British obviously are delighted to take the 'back' seat and let the US take the blame - afterall what the US is doing today, the British have been doing for centuries. With the exception of Malta, virtually every country they invaded, ruled and then either left or got kicked out of, ended up with a civil war. They had the same 'policies' as the US has today - 'our way or the highway'. I think it's long past its time, for the US to wake up and smell the coffee. The policies of the last 8 years in particular, will no longer be tolerated.
As for the chant that the US hands out $$ is nothing short of a joke. It's easy to hand out money, when it's not yours to hand out. For every $ handed out 45% is owned by the Chinese, the bulk of the remaining 55% is owned by other countries from whom you have borrowed.
The problem with your analysis is that america bashing has been going on for centuries, not just in the last 8 years. As for handing out money, wherever it comes from it has to be paid back and there was no mention of the billions given in charitable funds by PRIVATE entities. Yes, we have inherited the British position, which has both good and bad facets. We learned after the second world war that to allow the world system to coalesce around it's own points of power can lead to disaster-much better to try to shape it than let it run riot. We see the European idea of super-states and international "law" as untolerable as well, for many good reasons.As for the chant that the US hands out $$ is nothing short of a joke. It's easy to hand out money, when it's not yours to hand out. For every $ handed out 45% is owned by the Chinese, the bulk of the remaining 55% is owned by other countries from whom you have borrowed.
Scubadiva: Bush pissed on the constitution and he was the President... so what's your point?
The Constitution is abused by both party's, that's true, but Bush was no worse than most in that respect.mnowsa: [quote=RayfromU
In 2008, a poll was conducted for BBC World Service and GlobeScan in 26 countries around the world. The question asked was: "Is the United States having a positive or negative influence in the world?"
On average across the 26 countries polled, 51 percent say the US is having a mostly negative influence in the world, while only 30 percent say the US is having a mostly positive influence.
And not surprisingly, In a European Union poll, Israel is viewed as the world's most dangerous nation, but of course Israel rejects the poll and considers Europeans to be anti-jewish:
Almost 60% of the Europeans believe that Israel is more dangerous than North Korea, Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan.
Israelis reacted angrily to a European Union poll in which most respondants believe that Israel poses the greatest threat to world peace....Diaspora Affairs Minister Natan Sharansky accused Europeans of being antisemitic.
It is true that some policies of the USA, because of its sheer size and influence, are not terribly favored by the rest of the world but it is also true that most of those people, who view the USA negatively, will be forced to change their opinions after they come to USA because majority of the people here are very decent and rational:)
Europe has media appointed by the state, of all things. Yes, Israel has it's faults and some are bad ones, but compared to whom their fighting against, thay are minor. If the Euro media focused some of their outrage on other's, I wonder if those opinions would begin to moderate.In 2008, a poll was conducted for BBC World Service and GlobeScan in 26 countries around the world. The question asked was: "Is the United States having a positive or negative influence in the world?"
On average across the 26 countries polled, 51 percent say the US is having a mostly negative influence in the world, while only 30 percent say the US is having a mostly positive influence.
And not surprisingly, In a European Union poll, Israel is viewed as the world's most dangerous nation, but of course Israel rejects the poll and considers Europeans to be anti-jewish:
Almost 60% of the Europeans believe that Israel is more dangerous than North Korea, Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan.
Israelis reacted angrily to a European Union poll in which most respondants believe that Israel poses the greatest threat to world peace....Diaspora Affairs Minister Natan Sharansky accused Europeans of being antisemitic.
It is true that some policies of the USA, because of its sheer size and influence, are not terribly favored by the rest of the world but it is also true that most of those people, who view the USA negatively, will be forced to change their opinions after they come to USA because majority of the people here are very decent and rational:)
RayfromUSA: Certainly not as hateful as silently ignoring when your country conducts massacres against poor 3rd world countries just to get their oil.
Sometimes confronting the ugly truth is the most loving thing one can do.
Look at Jesus, you couldn't call him "hateful". But he aroused the ire of the "good" religious folk everywhere he went, because he exposed their hypocrisy.
Do we now 'have' their oil? I didn't realize that since we're still paying for it!Sometimes confronting the ugly truth is the most loving thing one can do.
Look at Jesus, you couldn't call him "hateful". But he aroused the ire of the "good" religious folk everywhere he went, because he exposed their hypocrisy.
Seems to me we could have just kept buying it from Hussein like the French and Germans and stayed home.I think one of the reasons people don't like the United States is because of our arrogance. You always hear people saying America is the greatest country. However, it's not! Our healthcare system sucks especially compared to other countries and our education system is something of a joke. Also, people in the United States tend to be very ethnocentric and people think everything in the country has to be based in religion.
Jenea: I think one of the reasons people don't like the United States is because of our arrogance. You always hear people saying America is the greatest country. However, it's not! Our healthcare system sucks especially compared to other countries and our education system is something of a joke. Also, people in the United States tend to be very ethnocentric and people think everything in the country has to be based in religion.
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Hi BebeII
I agree with your sentiments entirely, but you have to look at American Foriegn policy and maybe listen to what Bin Laden has to say, to know why they do that.
Politics is close to religion, in that many believe in one politician or another, or that a certain party is better.
Thier religion IS politics !
I am a Brit, so my country's foriegn policy is just as bad.
The Brits have been and probably always will be the biggest supporters of America, because we respect such a great nation.
When the Twin Towers went down, all the so say civilised nations had the choice to listen to these people, to try and understand why they did what they did, and make the world a more stable and peaceful place for all, but no, we choose to lower oursleves to thier level and went to war...... How civilised, how arrogant was that.!
Just the opinion of a dissatisfied Brit now living in Italy where the politics are appalling. But then I don't get involved anymore.
I agree with your sentiments entirely, but you have to look at American Foriegn policy and maybe listen to what Bin Laden has to say, to know why they do that.
Politics is close to religion, in that many believe in one politician or another, or that a certain party is better.
Thier religion IS politics !
I am a Brit, so my country's foriegn policy is just as bad.
The Brits have been and probably always will be the biggest supporters of America, because we respect such a great nation.
When the Twin Towers went down, all the so say civilised nations had the choice to listen to these people, to try and understand why they did what they did, and make the world a more stable and peaceful place for all, but no, we choose to lower oursleves to thier level and went to war...... How civilised, how arrogant was that.!
Just the opinion of a dissatisfied Brit now living in Italy where the politics are appalling. But then I don't get involved anymore.
BebeII: ?
What countries are you talking about that have better healthcare? The US imports more cases than any other country.
BebeII: Uhm, I think we accept others just fine, so long as their not killing our people based on their religion.
But you see they are not killing your people based on THEIR religion, they are killing your people based on YOUR foreign policies.
(I don't for one moment accept they are right to kill anybody but to solve problems it helps to realise what they actually are)
Yes, I did say for centuries, didn't I? As in over 2 in our case, though we've b een around for 4. You may call it arrogance if you like, however, you might be a bit chagrined to know that it takes power to keep sea-lanes from being preyed upon by pirates (Somalia), power to prevent countries from invading each other (Iraq and Kuwait), and allies to make common cause (G.B., U.S., Japan, S. Korea, Aus.) for our system of free trade. If Ireland wants to step up to the plate to provide all these things, we'll surely welcome it, along with the savings to our treasury. The E.U. has benefit's to it's member states, as belonging to my aforementioned "club" does as well. The problem with it as a whole is that it's undemocratic, wasteful of tax dollars and unwieldy to manage. Many people throughout Europe, including Ireland, are not happy with being told how to run their countries by a bureaucratic monstrosity. Sound familiar? We do not refuse to recognize international law-we simply retain the right to act according to our own sovereignty-something that Europe willfully shed over the years, believing that internationalism and treaties will solve whatever conflicts exist. Personally, I don't expect other countries to follow "our laws", whatever that means-my preference is for bi-, tri-, or quadalateral agreements between countries-it is more flexible than the U.N. system and without the cynical ganging-up of coalitions who stop even the best remedies from being carried out. I hope this answers your questions-have a nice day.
Fallingman: But you see they are not killing your people based on THEIR religion, they are killing your people based on YOUR foreign policies.
(I don't for one moment accept they are right to kill anybody but to solve problems it helps to realise what they actually are)
You can read it whatever way you like, but when considering Bin Laden, et al., it's important to remember the things he has said. We could disappear tomorrow and their targeting of us wouldn't stop. That, is a fantasy.(I don't for one moment accept they are right to kill anybody but to solve problems it helps to realise what they actually are)
Englishman55: Hi BebeII
I agree with your sentiments entirely, but you have to look at American Foriegn policy and maybe listen to what Bin Laden has to say, to know why they do that.
Politics is close to religion, in that many believe in one politician or another, or that a certain party is better.
Thier religion IS politics !
I am a Brit, so my country's foriegn policy is just as bad.
The Brits have been and probably always will be the biggest supporters of America, because we respect such a great nation.
When the Twin Towers went down, all the so say civilised nations had the choice to listen to these people, to try and understand why they did what they did, and make the world a more stable and peaceful place for all, but no, we choose to lower oursleves to thier level and went to war...... How civilised, how arrogant was that.!
Just the opinion of a dissatisfied Brit now living in Italy where the politics are appalling. But then I don't get involved anymore.
I agree with your sentiments entirely, but you have to look at American Foriegn policy and maybe listen to what Bin Laden has to say, to know why they do that.
Politics is close to religion, in that many believe in one politician or another, or that a certain party is better.
Thier religion IS politics !
I am a Brit, so my country's foriegn policy is just as bad.
The Brits have been and probably always will be the biggest supporters of America, because we respect such a great nation.
When the Twin Towers went down, all the so say civilised nations had the choice to listen to these people, to try and understand why they did what they did, and make the world a more stable and peaceful place for all, but no, we choose to lower oursleves to thier level and went to war...... How civilised, how arrogant was that.!
Just the opinion of a dissatisfied Brit now living in Italy where the politics are appalling. But then I don't get involved anymore.
Fallingman: But you see they are not killing your people based on THEIR religion, they are killing your people based on YOUR foreign policies.
(I don't for one moment accept they are right to kill anybody but to solve problems it helps to realise what they actually are)
P.S., If you're referring to our support of Israel, your wrong on that as well.(I don't for one moment accept they are right to kill anybody but to solve problems it helps to realise what they actually are)
No, I don't think the US is the most hated country. If it is, maybe it's the "tall poppy syndrome"...cut it down so we can all be the same height. The most hated country? MEXICO
I think the US should be helping poor countries. When you see those places in the TV commercials for charity where they all live in shacks, I always thought those people could be given carpentry lessons and supplies. If their local government lets them live in shacks, the government should not mind if they build better dwellings on the same site. They could even be taught to build so called gypsy carts so they can try to move if there is a disaster or if they are squatters. And how a bout a campaign to teach people about bio domes and hydroponic gardening, and stuff like that. Nine tenths of the reason other countries hate us boils down to where we have everything and they have nothing. You can't just give the people a bio dome and trust them to run it, but you can use a bio dome to teach people how to garden and then give them the vegetables grown in there, and teach them to grow their own vegs,etc.
Witchaywoman: I think the US should be helping poor countries. When you see those places in the TV commercials for charity where they all live in shacks, I always thought those people could be given carpentry lessons and supplies. If their local government lets them live in shacks, the government should not mind if they build better dwellings on the same site. They could even be taught to build so called gypsy carts so they can try to move if there is a disaster or if they are squatters. And how a bout a campaign to teach people about bio domes and hydroponic gardening, and stuff like that. Nine tenths of the reason other countries hate us boils down to where we have everything and they have nothing. You can't just give the people a bio dome and trust them to run it, but you can use a bio dome to teach people how to garden and then give them the vegetables grown in there, and teach them to grow their own vegs,etc.
To have one group of people hating another because of their possessions is immoral, frankly. And we do help many-even our armed forces build a lot of dwellings and clinics when stationed overseas.The world has changed . When I first traveled oversea's in 1975 we were Loved and admired in the Major part of the World. We do a lot of Good, unfortunitly we Link it to forcing them to do things the way we want them too. We have used the world as our own personal Chess Board choosing what piece we will give up to obtain our goals. We cause one Pawn to punnish another . We build up a country just to discard it later. We built the shaw of Iran one of the most brutal people in the world and look the other way when he commits geniside then when the people rebel we build sadam Husain as the most powerful in the region just to punish Iran then we move in to destray him when he won't play the way we want . All the time africa is commiting mass Murder on a scale never before seen in this world and no one even bats an eye . We put in dictators that are brutal and support them all the time the people are crying for relief. In Vietnam we went into a country to help then when it didn't fit our wants anymore we pull out knowing that there would be mass murder after we leave. When the mass murder happens over six million people killed Many bludgened to death to save money on Bullets we refused to report it or do anything to help this is only a couple examples . We wonder why most of these people hate us .
lonelycowboy101: The world has changed . When I first traveled oversea's in 1975 we were Loved and admired in the Major part of the World. We do a lot of Good, unfortunitly we Link it to forcing them to do things the way we want them too. We have used the world as our own personal Chess Board choosing what piece we will give up to obtain our goals. We cause one Pawn to punnish another . We build up a country just to discard it later. We built the shaw of Iran one of the most brutal people in the world and look the other way when he commits geniside then when the people rebel we build sadam Husain as the most powerful in the region just to punish Iran then we move in to destray him when he won't play the way we want . All the time africa is commiting mass Murder on a scale never before seen in this world and no one even bats an eye . We put in dictators that are brutal and support them all the time the people are crying for relief. In Vietnam we went into a country to help then when it didn't fit our wants anymore we pull out knowing that there would be mass murder after we leave. When the mass murder happens over six million people killed Many bludgened to death to save money on Bullets we refused to report it or do anything to help this is only a couple examples . We wonder why most of these people hate us .
And all of that for no good reason?Wonder where you were in the Sixties and Seventies!
I can understand getting pissed on,but pissing all over one self,is beyond my Comprehension!
lonelycowboy101: The world has changed . When I first traveled oversea's in 1975 we were Loved and admired in the Major part of the World. We do a lot of Good, unfortunitly we Link it to forcing them to do things the way we want them too. We have used the world as our own personal Chess Board choosing what piece we will give up to obtain our goals. We cause one Pawn to punnish another . We build up a country just to discard it later. We built the shaw of Iran one of the most brutal people in the world and look the other way when he commits geniside then when the people rebel we build sadam Husain as the most powerful in the region just to punish Iran then we move in to destray him when he won't play the way we want . All the time africa is commiting mass Murder on a scale never before seen in this world and no one even bats an eye . We put in dictators that are brutal and support them all the time the people are crying for relief. In Vietnam we went into a country to help then when it didn't fit our wants anymore we pull out knowing that there would be mass murder after we leave. When the mass murder happens over six million people killed Many bludgened to death to save money on Bullets we refused to report it or do anything to help this is only a couple examples . We wonder why most of these people hate us .
We have no doubt done things I would never countenance, but I think your post misses a lot, such as other countries too have an agenda-they are not mere puppets on a string, ala Noam Chomsky's ramblings, and one tends to forget the treachery being done by the then Soviet Union that caused us to get involved.
So what is the US is hated.... what is anyone going to do about?.... not a damn thing because no one really cares.
Zeelander: So what is the US is hated.... what is anyone going to do about?.... not a damn thing because no one really cares.
I think the carping is gratuitous in many cases, based more on spin than reality-depending on the subject. That whole "we're uncivilized" thing.Zeelander: So what is the US is hated.... what is anyone going to do about?.... not a damn thing because no one really cares.
Agree'd. I know personally, it doesn't effect my life one way or the other. It does however show how hypocritical some may be in their ideology.Da10th: Agree'd. I know personally, it doesn't effect my life one way or the other. It does however show how hypocritical some may be in their ideology.
But those "some" might have well-grounded judgement based on their own experience and foreign media reports ( even UE media companies)which form this kind of worldview, d'you remember how EU countries gave a negative responce to US attacks in EU, France even denied to import some traditional US products, in reply US denied import of French vine.
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As for the chant that the US hands out $$ is nothing short of a joke. It's easy to hand out money, when it's not yours to hand out. For every $ handed out 45% is owned by the Chinese, the bulk of the remaining 55% is owned by other countries from whom you have borrowed.