The current administration seems to have cold feet. It is unbeliveable that the citizens of this country are held to acount for every minor infraction while wall street and powerfull politicos are above the law.
wondering if the rest of my fellow citizens think, and if there is something very wrong here.
nomad4555: Should the Bush administration be investigated?
The current administration seems to have cold feet. It is unbeliveable that the citizens of this country are held to acount for every minor infraction while wall street and powerfull politicos are above the law.
wondering if the rest of my fellow citizens think, and if there is something very wrong here.
So we can finally lock up both Sides of the Aisle in Both Houses,including Madame Speaker!
nomad4555: Should the Bush administration be investigated?
The current administration seems to have cold feet. It is unbeliveable that the citizens of this country are held to acount for every minor infraction while wall street and powerfull politicos are above the law.
wondering if the rest of my fellow citizens think, and if there is something very wrong here.
Where would you stop? Congress puts themselves above the law all the time. Can we include them? Also, this CIA witch hunt will once again hurt or intelligence gathering abilities. Be careful what you wish for.
nomad4555: Should the Bush administration be investigated?
The current administration seems to have cold feet. It is unbeliveable that the citizens of this country are held to acount for every minor infraction while wall street and powerfull politicos are above the law.
wondering if the rest of my fellow citizens think, and if there is something very wrong here.
Im all for letting the CIA investigate both administrations, waterboard all of them in a rendition site in any country that ends in "stan" for all I care.
I get the bush hatred but it often is coupled to obamatardation and its hard to take someone serious who thinks obama is the savior.
Brewer: Im all for letting the CIA investigate both administrations, waterboard all of them in a rendition site in any country that ends in "stan" for all I care.
I get the bush hatred but it often is coupled to obamatardation and its hard to take someone serious who thinks obama is the savior.
Read up on the CIA's Charter!
The Central Intelligence Agency’s mission is to collect and evaluate foreign intelligence.
Regardless whether they step over the Line or not.
You know if Rumsfeld shows his face in Germany, he'll be arrested. I kid you not. There was a suit brought against him by a group of Iraqis and the equivalent of the Attorney General found there to be sufficient grounds for the carge - I can't remember whether it was war crimes or crimes against humanity. One of those two. Germany is the only country on the planet that has the authority to conduct such trials. Why there is no investigation in the US is beyond my comprehension.
Scubadiva: You know if Rumsfeld shows his face in Germany, he'll be arrested. I kid you not. There was a suit brought against him by a group of Iraqis and the equivalent of the Attorney General found there to be sufficient grounds for the carge - I can't remember whether it was war crimes or crimes against humanity. One of those two. Germany is the only country on the planet that has the authority to conduct such trials. Why there is no investigation in the US is beyond my comprehension.
Scubadiva: You know if Rumsfeld shows his face in Germany, he'll be arrested. I kid you not. There was a suit brought against him by a group of Iraqis and the equivalent of the Attorney General found there to be sufficient grounds for the carge - I can't remember whether it was war crimes or crimes against humanity. One of those two. Germany is the only country on the planet that has the authority to conduct such trials. Why there is no investigation in the US is beyond my comprehension.
Scubadiva: You know if Rumsfeld shows his face in Germany, he'll be arrested. I kid you not. There was a suit brought against him by a group of Iraqis and the equivalent of the Attorney General found there to be sufficient grounds for the carge - I can't remember whether it was war crimes or crimes against humanity. One of those two. Germany is the only country on the planet that has the authority to conduct such trials. Why there is no investigation in the US is beyond my comprehension.
War crimes and crimes against humanity have been a field of expertise for Germany over the course of history.
Let's see if we can get China and Cuba involved too.
nomad4555: Should the Bush administration be investigated?
The current administration seems to have cold feet. It is unbeliveable that the citizens of this country are held to acount for every minor infraction while wall street and powerfull politicos are above the law.
wondering if the rest of my fellow citizens think, and if there is something very wrong here.
They (the Dems) claimed they would impeach Bush yet they did nothing. All of it political mumbo jumbo. It was all about getting votes.
The dems don't want an investigation into Bush's actions during his persidency because most of them went right along with him. They yell their mantra "Bush lied and people died" yet they were right there and had the same intil he had.
I suspect we need to get rid of most of the people representing us and hope we reap a better crop of leaders with coming elections.
roseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK8,699 posts
Well, it'd probably be a case of "shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted" but if misdemeanours have been committed, particularly illegal ones, then they need to be investigated, yes. Though you may find that one is only usually accountable if one DOESN'T have power, powerful and corrupt contacts, and protection.... in other words : UNTOUCHABLE?!
It is up to the people as to whether that is acceptable or not...? Thus far, it would seem it IS?!!
nomad4555: Should the Bush administration be investigated?
It's unbeliveable that citizens of this country are held to acount for every minor infraction while wall street and powerfull politicos are above the law.
Actually, it's pretty believable. It's always been that way.
It's just that recently people have begun to notice.
Scubadiva: You know if Rumsfeld shows his face in Germany, he'll be arrested. I kid you not. There was a suit brought against him by a group of Iraqis and the equivalent of the Attorney General found there to be sufficient grounds for the carge - I can't remember whether it was war crimes or crimes against humanity. One of those two. Germany is the only country on the planet that has the authority to conduct such trials. Why there is no investigation in the US is beyond my comprehension.
Why don't parties that want GWB and his minions to tried for what crimes.....try them in the World Court? Was good enough for Milosovic and other from the Balkans wars.
Countries that think that they have the legal 'right' to try foreign parties in their courts for acts committed outside of thier countries borders and don't directly involve thier people, or organizations...have lost the concept of jurisdiction. Or have a warped sense of what jurisdiction is.
This is also where Shiara law falls all apart. To think that a group of cleric jurists can sit in Qom, Iran (or elsewhere) and render judgements on both Moslem and non Moslem around the world (e.g. Salman Rushide fatwa and bin Laden's 9/11 fatwa) are little more an kangeroo courts.
Spain fell into this liberal trap as well. Wanted to investigate and try some 6 GBW White House staff. It made great new copy in Europe and the US last fall during the election. But when the Attorney General of Spain realized he did not have a legal standing to the charges all was dropped. Only 6 men have been accused (at least in the public eye)....and not given a day in court.
My advise to those 6.....European and US law suits against each and every media outlet that ran the story....for defamation. And against the Spainsh court that originally made the charges and took briefs on it.
hankjr5362: And I suppose the bombings in Spain and England were also the work of lunatic government conspiracies as well. REAL INTELLIGENT AUSSIE !!!
Yes indeed, but not separate conspiracies, it's the same one.
The conspiracy is global, and in fact, globalism is its aim, to unite the entire world into a single economy and totalitarian government.
Supposed "international terrorism" is almost entirely a scam used toward that aim, as are nearly all of the other manufactured crises that we are told threaten to destroy civilization if urgent action isn't undertaken by the government, such as: global warming, disease epidemics, worldwide economic collapse, nuclear proliferation, etc etc etc etc.
Since you mentioned England and Spain let's look at those cases a little closer.
In both cases, supposedly, some terrorist suicide bombers blew up the trains.
But why would anyone suicide themselves just to blow up a carload of civilian strangers. Especially when they could have simply left their bombs on the train and lived to tell the tale.
Suicide bombings are nearly always faked. A bomb goes off and right away the authorities come up with names and photos and the whole story about the supposed bombers. It's worse than the cheap made for TV movies that they so effectively use to dumb people down.
After the blast they can blame anybody they like and make up a whole story about the organization etc ec. The only way anybodu is going to know its fake is if the supposed suicide bomber turns up alive later (as 9 of the 19 named WTC "suicide hijackers" did).
BrunoMcMahon: War crimes and crimes against humanity have been a field of expertise for Germany over the course of history.Let's see if we can get China and Cuba involved too.
Hardly over the course of history, but at least they learnt from the last war. Now who else can say the same?
Sparky55: They (the Dems) claimed they would impeach Bush yet they did nothing. All of it political mumbo jumbo. It was all about getting votes.
The dems don't want an investigation into Bush's actions during his persidency because most of them went right along with him. They yell their mantra "Bush lied and people died" yet they were right there and had the same intil he had.
I suspect we need to get rid of most of the people representing us and hope we reap a better crop of leaders with coming elections.
I agree with you in large part. I was thoroughly disgusted when I heard from the democratic side that they either didn't have the time or lacked the understanding of the documents that were presented to them and yet they signed off on them.
I also blame those in the country who have a public voice in the media for not speaking out while all this was going on. They didn't because they were afraid of committing economic suicide. Nobody wanted to stick their neck out and get hung and be made an example of. Then, after it all blew up, they came out of the woodwork feigning outrage at the abomination and I just want to
I hate to say it, but there ARE many, many parallels to the 3d Reich, from the propaganda to the behavior of the people.
RayfromUSA: Yes indeed, but not separate conspiracies, it's the same one.
The conspiracy is global, and in fact, globalism is its aim, to unite the entire world into a single economy and totalitarian government.
Supposed "international terrorism" is almost entirely a scam used toward that aim, as are nearly all of the other manufactured crises that we are told threaten to destroy civilization if urgent action isn't undertaken by the government, such as: global warming, disease epidemics, worldwide economic collapse, nuclear proliferation, etc etc etc etc.
Since you mentioned England and Spain let's look at those cases a little closer.
In both cases, supposedly, some terrorist suicide bombers blew up the trains.
But why would anyone suicide themselves just to blow up a carload of civilian strangers. Especially when they could have simply left their bombs on the train and lived to tell the tale.
Suicide bombings are nearly always faked. A bomb goes off and right away the authorities come up with names and photos and the whole story about the supposed bombers. It's worse than the cheap made for TV movies that they so effectively use to dumb people down.
After the blast they can blame anybody they like and make up a whole story about the organization etc ec. The only way anybodu is going to know its fake is if the supposed suicide bomber turns up alive later (as 9 of the 19 named WTC "suicide hijackers" did).
usahater48: bush and his conies should be investigated and arrested. i just wonder how many laws bush broke. not to mention. making so many worldwide enemies.
If GWB was wrong...it started with the Iraqi WMDs. Some might argue with the 2004 election. But we have seen ACORN now so let us call that a draw. And internal politics of the United States.
Now if we are to believe President Obama...who at the G-20....with France and Britian....just accused Iran of having a undisclosed and secret nuclear processing facility at Qom, Iran.
Now...before you jump back to the WMDs hardened and heated debate attitudes. A couple of thing need to be said and considered. Back in Jan. 2009, just after his oath....they had a joint bi partisan Congressional hearings on Iran and its nuclear material programs. Yours truelly played a role in them. Most likely this Congressional bi partisan committee will get the intell on this new site for more review. GWB did not use Congress to review his Iraq WMD intell, till the vote to invade came.
In other words, the errors of the GWB administration in the Iraq WMDs are being addressed. Better have been addressed. Consider that France, Germany and England made the statement today with President Obama. That early coalition alone is different from the GWBs led path on the Iraqi WMDs.
A question to have you consider. If Iran could get nuclear fuel rods, first from Russia, then Obama's proposed International Fuel Rod bank, and then its own nuclear fuel rod processing program......why does it need a secret and non disclosed nuclear fuel processing facility? If not for weapons?
Last question to consider. If during WWII, Germany, Italy and Japan had learned about the United States's secret nuclear materials and weapons program, then would have said...the three Axis nations will place sanctions on the US to stop their nuclear programs. Do you think that FDR or Truman would have halted the programs?
Pres. A sees the Iran in a conflict with more than Israel. Include the USA, UK, Europe, Persian Gulf Countries, Sunni, Mushadeen Terrorist from Afghanistan, Mousavi's Green Party, moderate Moslems, and Christianity. In other words.....a World War situation.
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Should the Bush administration be investigated ?(Vote Below)
The current administration seems to have cold feet.
It is unbeliveable that the citizens of this country
are held to acount for every minor infraction
while wall street and powerfull politicos are
above the law.
wondering if the rest of my fellow citizens
think, and if there is something very wrong here.