Do You Ever See The Homeless? (88)

Dec 19, 2009 6:07 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
JadeHawk
JadeHawkJadeHawkMarion, Indiana USA3 Threads 2 Polls 32 Posts
HealthyLiving: I have been involved in "Street Ministry" for the past 20 years.
Fed and clothed the homeless in Fort Worth, Texas for 15 years.
I have brought hundreds of them into my home to give them a chance to get on their feet.

I started an outreach in my community, giving food and clothing to families in need. The whole community participated. Those who could not give, we gave to them. I personally paid electric bills and water bills for those who could not afford to pay them themselves. I have seen many tears of JOY flow, expressing gratitude and made many new friends.

They are people, just like we are. No one of us is any better than the next. God created us all and we are all His children.
We must show love and compassion to others. Be a listening ear, a helping hand, a shoulder to cry on, we can BE the DIFFERENCE.

I have seen many lives change and receive HOPE, through loving acts of Kindness.God Bless you ALL!!

Taking the Love of Jesus to where it is most desperately needed and hardest to find. HL

AMENangel
Dec 19, 2009 6:24 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
navygirl1
navygirl1navygirl1Calgary, Alberta Canada6 Threads 1,586 Posts
JadeHawk: navygirl1, You and others like you make the difference. God Bless You
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You are very kind. Thank you. teddybear
Dec 19, 2009 6:26 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
SummerUK
SummerUKSummerUKWashington UK, Tyne and Wear, England UK24 Threads 8,842 Posts
I'm off to London tomorrow to work up until New Year in a shelter which has been set up especially for the Christmas period. The organisation has 9 shelters in central London and they try and provide them with everything they need.

Not only food and warmth but Doctors, Vets to check their pets out, Chiropodists, hairdressers and even entertainment. They also provide councellors and advisers to try and help them get back on their feet.

They have centres the rest of the year but at Christmas they try and make a bigger effort for them..
Dec 19, 2009 6:30 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
navygirl1
navygirl1navygirl1Calgary, Alberta Canada6 Threads 1,586 Posts
Aramis734: It really doesn't make any sense, does it?

I don't know about anyone else, but the last group I'd want to piss off or mistreat would be the men and women who know how to fight a war.


You know the irony is criminals have shelter, food, and even free schooling, yet Veterans are homeless and hungry. That is what pisses me off.very mad
Dec 19, 2009 6:31 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
wonderworker
wonderworkerwonderworkercosby, Tennessee USA201 Threads 2 Polls 1,883 Posts
"....even as you have done unto the least of these..."
I read that somewhere.
How does the rest of it go?
Sometime this week I will buy a bottle of cheap wine and give it to a homeless man.It has become a personal tradition.I never have any trouble finding such a man....
cool
Dec 19, 2009 6:38 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
sultryash
sultryashsultryashBridgetown, Saint Michael Barbados36 Threads 3,203 Posts
I do and i try to help as much as i could. I will be feeding some of them on christmas day. I have been doing this every year for the past 12 years now and in honor of my mother's memory on her birthday every year on May 12 and on my birthday .


I wish i could do more but i do what i can and when i can.
Dec 19, 2009 7:13 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
USThumper
USThumperUSThumperMexico, New York USA4 Threads 3,957 Posts
I see them in Syracuse quite often. I've offered them a job, but they dont want it. One guy told me he made more on a street corner than he would working.dunno dunno
Dec 19, 2009 7:18 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
Kalimera
KalimeraKalimeraDublin, Ireland6 Threads 1,708 Posts
Yes, and I think "there but for the grace of god go I"
It is not up to anyone to judge others, I usually buy a sandwich and a cup of tea and just leave them for the person.
Dec 19, 2009 9:36 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
All the major towns and cities here are filled with the the poor, the homeless and the hungry, day and night and their numbers are increasing. It angers me that the system which creates and maintains such high numbers of homless and washes their hands of any and all responsibility over the conditions that create the growing numbers is tolerated by the electorate and politicians who preach that new social conditions are needed to help those less fortunate, but also quietly give encouragement to the corporate world to ignore them in favour of making profits, be it from higher rents, food prices, private health care, low wages etc. It angers me that people can suddenly become homeless just trying to pay their medical bills and lose whatever health insurance they may have had; it angers me that when workers are laid off and their so called social unemployment and welfare rates are so low that many lose their homes; it angers me that the local or provincial government will not help these potentially homeless by freezing their rents or mortgage payments until they are again productively working...it really angers me that in North America that having a home is not a human right as it is now in Europe, thanks to France. So far Scotland has signed that accord, others are making the preparations to do so and be ready to implement it asap when they sign those accords. In the short turn, it will be expensive to implement but with the general EU population, it will be quite cheap to ensure that everyone has a home. Would the US and Canada dare to declare having a home as as 'Human Right'? So far the only country that has scoffed at the idea is England...why am I not surprised... while it may be an individual's choice to be homeless, poor and perhaps hungry, it is not a human right as recognized by any civilized country, nor by the United Nations Charter on Human Rights. The multi-transnational corporations seem bent of creating a future of human impoverishment and degradation. As Fox Mulder once said: "Fight the Future!"
The next time 'we' 'notice' the homeless, just remember: "There but for the Grace of God go I..." (irrespective of your own religion or lack of one...)professor
Dec 19, 2009 9:55 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
JadeHawk: How many times do we even notice those less fortunate than we are?


Always.comfort comfort
Dec 20, 2009 1:28 AM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
navygirl1
navygirl1navygirl1Calgary, Alberta Canada6 Threads 1,586 Posts
solitare: All the major towns and cities here are filled with the the poor, the homeless and the hungry, day and night and their numbers are increasing. It angers me that the system which creates and maintains such high numbers of homless and washes their hands of any and all responsibility over the conditions that create the growing numbers is tolerated by the electorate and politicians who preach that new social conditions are needed to help those less fortunate, but also quietly give encouragement to the corporate world to ignore them in favour of making profits, be it from higher rents, food prices, private health care, low wages etc. It angers me that people can suddenly become homeless just trying to pay their medical bills and lose whatever health insurance they may have had; it angers me that when workers are laid off and their so called social unemployment and welfare rates are so low that many lose their homes; it angers me that the local or provincial government will not help these potentially homeless by freezing their rents or mortgage payments until they are again productively working...it really angers me that in North America that having a home is not a human right as it is now in Europe, thanks to France. So far Scotland has signed that accord, others are making the preparations to do so and be ready to implement it asap when they sign those accords. In the short turn, it will be expensive to implement but with the general EU population, it will be quite cheap to ensure that everyone has a home. Would the US and Canada dare to declare having a home as as 'Human Right'? So far the only country that has scoffed at the idea is England...why am I not surprised... while it may be an individual's choice to be homeless, poor and perhaps hungry, it is not a human right as recognized by any civilized country, nor by the United Nations Charter on Human Rights. The multi-transnational corporations seem bent of creating a future of human impoverishment and degradation. As Fox Mulder once said: "Fight the Future!"
The next time 'we' 'notice' the homeless, just remember: "There but for the Grace of God go I..." (irrespective of your own religion or lack of one...)


I feel the same as you do about what our Government is not doing. During our oil boom and 80 year old woman was put out into the streets during a -20 cold snap as she couldn't pay her 1800 dollar rent which was only 800. I think there should be rent fees and even more so for our senior citizens. The Goverment is so damn greedy that they just don't care. Our oil prices were constantly climbing but the Government gets their royalties so why would they put a cap on that. We had many people here homeless during the boom as they had a job but couldn't afford a house or an apartment due to the high rent/housing prices. Makes me sick to my stomach personally.
Dec 20, 2009 1:28 AM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
To add an addendum to my post above, I would say that rather than agree with a 'Republican' attitude that the poor and homeless are like criminals on this continent of 'it's everyone for themselves' that any social, political, moral or economic system that produces homeless people and families be declared a crime against humanity by peoples everywhere and replace any such system with something much more humane than ignoring these systems until you become another victim unless one really believes that people are meant to be disposable.
Dec 20, 2009 1:29 AM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
Apostophe
ApostopheApostopheBoksburg, Gauteng South Africa64 Threads 1,937 Posts
solitare: To add an addendum to my post above, I would say that rather than agree with a 'Republican' attitude that the poor and homeless are like criminals on this continent of 'it's everyone for themselves' that any social, political, moral or economic system that produces homeless people and families be declared a crime against humanity by peoples everywhere and replace any such system with something much more humane than ignoring these systems until you become another victim unless one really believes that people are meant to be disposable.



Amen.



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Dec 20, 2009 1:33 AM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
I never saw a single homeless person in Denmark and never saw any low standard accommodation either. You could never tell if somebody was rich as they all rode around on bicycles where I was studying. They get very highly taxed but at least poverty is almost on-existant there. It certainly made me think.
Dec 20, 2009 1:33 AM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
kiwi69
kiwi69kiwi69Auckland, New Zealand4 Threads 262 Posts
Do I ever see the homeless? Not anymore, they couldn't pay rent so I kicked them out!!!
Dec 20, 2009 2:35 AM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
roseofsharon
roseofsharonroseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK60 Threads 3 Polls 8,699 Posts
JadeHawk: How many times do we even notice those less fortunate than we are?


Why on earth do you have "they should be exterminated" as one of your given options?!
dunno confused
Dec 20, 2009 2:56 AM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
kiwi69
kiwi69kiwi69Auckland, New Zealand4 Threads 262 Posts
To be serious, if a person is born in the country they are homeless in then it's the duty or welfare ie taxes to provide. In NZ we don't suffer fools, we have homeless people that are predominately South African overstayers. At the end of the day it's not my responsibility to house/feed or protect foreigners unless they declare themselves as refugees.

Hard but fair. We send 3 747 planes a week full of overstayers back to their origin of port that have nothing to offer NZ. Visa's are crucial, no ifs buts or maybes.
Dec 20, 2009 9:32 AM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
kiwi69: To be serious, if a person is born in the country they are homeless in then it's the duty or welfare ie taxes to provide. In NZ we don't suffer fools, we have homeless people that are predominately South African overstayers. At the end of the day it's not my responsibility to house/feed or protect foreigners unless they declare themselves as refugees.

Hard but fair. We send 3 747 planes a week full of overstayers back to their origin of port that have nothing to offer NZ. Visa's are crucial, no ifs buts or maybes.



I find both of your responses very cold. Your heart is hardened and you ought not think of yourself more highly than others.
Whether homeless or foreigners,people are people. Only a heart made of stone would not reach out to help.

Be careful, pride comes before a fall...scold
Dec 20, 2009 1:15 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
Aramis734
Aramis734Aramis734arestview, Florida USA41 Posts
kiwi69: At the end of the day it's not my responsibility to house/feed or protect foreigners unless they declare themselves as refugees.


I'm going indulge myself and throw your own words back at you:

"Arrogance breeds ignorance, your mothers arrogant lol."
Dec 20, 2009 1:17 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
ogdensburgbabe
ogdensburgbabeogdensburgbabeogdensburg, New York USA18 Threads 801 Posts
kiwi69: To be serious, if a person is born in the country they are homeless in then it's the duty or welfare ie taxes to provide. In NZ we don't suffer fools, we have homeless people that are predominately South African overstayers. At the end of the day it's not my responsibility to house/feed or protect foreigners unless they declare themselves as refugees.

Hard but fair. We send 3 747 planes a week full of overstayers back to their origin of port that have nothing to offer NZ. Visa's are crucial, no ifs buts or maybes.


Correct me if Im wrong, but was not this thread about our homeless communities, and not about immigrants - legal or illegal??confused
Dec 20, 2009 1:41 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
Lostrebel
LostrebelLostrebelHeuvelton, New York USA9 Threads 661 Posts
In our country there are places and agencies,and churches that will keep people with food and shelter and clothes....provided they obey the rules that are set forth to receive this help...so if they are homeless here then they CHOSE to be homeless...
Dec 20, 2009 1:44 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
scorpiochi
scorpiochiscorpiochiAlbuquerque , NM, New Mexico USA16 Threads 2 Polls 342 Posts
I see them all the time . I always try and give money . Who knows wether there really homeless or trying to just get money for drugs or beer . But as long as my intention is to help some one . Then it is on them to help themselves .
Dec 20, 2009 1:45 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
JadeHawk
JadeHawkJadeHawkMarion, Indiana USA3 Threads 2 Polls 32 Posts
roseofsharon: Why on earth do you have "they should be exterminated" as one of your given options?!

Quite simply because some of our "representatives", feel that is an option. One county I know of conducts regular round-ups to get the homeless out of their county such as was done in all the county areas surrounding Atlanta before the olympics.
Dec 20, 2009 1:46 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
scorpiochi
scorpiochiscorpiochiAlbuquerque , NM, New Mexico USA16 Threads 2 Polls 342 Posts
I know some of them that panhandle make more in a day than I would in a week . I have thought of doing it myself to be honest . But it would be out of integrity to me to do so .
Dec 20, 2009 1:53 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
Lostrebel
LostrebelLostrebelHeuvelton, New York USA9 Threads 661 Posts
JadeHawk: Quite simply because some of our "representatives", feel that is an option. One county I know of conducts regular round-ups to get the homeless out of their county such as was done in all the county areas surrounding Atlanta before the olympics.
Ahhh the white man did this same thing to an entire race of native people...only they had land ,food and were in no way at all homeless....I think we should do the same with all bald headed men ,and women that have flat butts....sounds really silly doesn't it?grin
Dec 20, 2009 2:34 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
Medsummer09
Medsummer09Medsummer09Nice, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France35 Threads 7 Polls 585 Posts
ogdensburgbabe: Correct me if Im wrong, but was not this thread about our homeless communities, and not about immigrants - legal or illegal??


NZ is just "ensuring" that the people who "overstay" do not become residents so they can keep their utopia pure. So in this way they regulate their island population to those who were born there for the most part.
I'm over 40 yrs. so I believe I would not be granted a residency permit even if I wanted to stay there.
Since I am older, by denying me occupation they are preventing me from becoming a liability on their "system" if I succumb to unemployment or any one of the inevitable illnesses of the aging segment of mankind.
As he says, it is "Hard, but fair" if you were born there.

I'm sure NZ has it's share of homeless there somewhere, perhaps they house them in the hobbit houses built there for the movie.

Anyway, keep the thread on topic, not immigration rights even though this is part of the cause of the problem in some countries.
Dec 20, 2009 2:41 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
ogdensburgbabe
ogdensburgbabeogdensburgbabeogdensburg, New York USA18 Threads 801 Posts
Medsummer09: NZ is just "ensuring" that the people who "overstay" do not become residents so they can keep their utopia pure. So in this way they regulate their island population to those who were born there for the most part.
I'm over 40 yrs. so I believe I would not be granted a residency permit even if I wanted to stay there.
Since I am older, by denying me occupation they are preventing me from becoming a liability on their "system" if I succumb to unemployment or any one of the inevitable illnesses of the aging segment of mankind.
As he says, it is "Hard, but fair" if you were born there.

I'm sure NZ has it's share of homeless there somewhere, perhaps they house them in the hobbit houses built there for the movie.

Anyway, keep the thread on topic, not immigration rights even though this is part of the cause of the problem in some countries.


Maybe so, Bilbo...

Maybe so....dunno


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Dec 20, 2009 2:44 PM CST Do You Ever See The Homeless?
navygirl1
navygirl1navygirl1Calgary, Alberta Canada6 Threads 1,586 Posts
ogdensburgbabe: Correct me if Im wrong, but was not this thread about our homeless communities, and not about immigrants - legal or illegal??


Yes, thanks for brining us back to the original poll. Actually immigrants are not homeless here in Canada. They are given houses, education, and jobs. The homeless are those who have lost jobs or lost homes due to the high cost of living (greed). Not all homeless are drug users, have mental problems, or alcoholics. We have people from other provinces coming here to work but can't afford the housing or even the apartments so they stay at the drop in centre. We also have many seniors that are homeless as their rents have been tripled by their landlords. We also talked about Veterans that also can't survive on the small pensions they have and they too have become homeless. Its very sad to see and I do try my best to help make others aware as well getting funding for affordable housing for these unfortunate people. Hard to celebrate Christmas with lots of gifts, eating lots of food, staying cozy warm when you know these people have nothing. Main reason I don't celebrate Christmas; just doesn't seem right to me.
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