Why do you believe in your religion (72)
"afterbam,"
Well said for a person that comes from an area/portion of the U.S. that was begun by religious zealots that in their opinion had and may still have a love for God.
Has it left a bad taste? I submit to you that it's only the rebellious spirit that many of us cannot contain - we allow it to blind our eyes, cloud our reasoning, in a way we hide from what is unknown. Why is it, that we don't hide from evil or evil doings? We know that evil exists. But why aren't we scared?
Indeed it (evil) has many running to their "death" (the wrong path). Really, it is just plain old denial and stubbornness that says to others, no one tells me how to live or what to do with my life; but on the contrary there is one that shows us how to live and how to live to time indefinite.
Well said for a person that comes from an area/portion of the U.S. that was begun by religious zealots that in their opinion had and may still have a love for God.
Has it left a bad taste? I submit to you that it's only the rebellious spirit that many of us cannot contain - we allow it to blind our eyes, cloud our reasoning, in a way we hide from what is unknown. Why is it, that we don't hide from evil or evil doings? We know that evil exists. But why aren't we scared?
Indeed it (evil) has many running to their "death" (the wrong path). Really, it is just plain old denial and stubbornness that says to others, no one tells me how to live or what to do with my life; but on the contrary there is one that shows us how to live and how to live to time indefinite.
Trealach01,
Very nice...
But the forgiveness of sin can only be accomplished by death. Remember, the wages of sin is death. And the soul that is sinning, it itself will surely die. (God's words not mine)
Baptism is misleading as is the Catholic church unfortunately. Baptism is performed on those that wish to serve God as Jesus did.
Recall that Jesus was a prophet, teacher and preacher. No of us, today, are able to give or make a prophesy for Jesus was the last prophet of God.
Sadly, the church doesn't promote those activities the teaching and preaching of the good news of the Kingdom - which is the expression of God's universal sovereignty toward his creatures/creation. It's all about God's rule over His domain. Indeed it is the unification of all His creation.
Jesus commanded his followers saying:
Matthew 28:19, 20 - Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus also told his followers just how to do it. He commanded them:
Mark 6:6, 7: 12 - ...and he went round about to the villages in a circuit, teaching.
7 - Now he summoned the twelve, and he initiated sending them out two by two,
12 - So they set out and preached in order that people might repent;
Woe to them that fail to obey the Christ, thereby failing to obey and please his Father.
Very nice...
But the forgiveness of sin can only be accomplished by death. Remember, the wages of sin is death. And the soul that is sinning, it itself will surely die. (God's words not mine)
Baptism is misleading as is the Catholic church unfortunately. Baptism is performed on those that wish to serve God as Jesus did.
Recall that Jesus was a prophet, teacher and preacher. No of us, today, are able to give or make a prophesy for Jesus was the last prophet of God.
Sadly, the church doesn't promote those activities the teaching and preaching of the good news of the Kingdom - which is the expression of God's universal sovereignty toward his creatures/creation. It's all about God's rule over His domain. Indeed it is the unification of all His creation.
Jesus commanded his followers saying:
Matthew 28:19, 20 - Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus also told his followers just how to do it. He commanded them:
Mark 6:6, 7: 12 - ...and he went round about to the villages in a circuit, teaching.
7 - Now he summoned the twelve, and he initiated sending them out two by two,
12 - So they set out and preached in order that people might repent;
Woe to them that fail to obey the Christ, thereby failing to obey and please his Father.
I was raised a methodist and although I attended church quite often, I never really enjoyed it. I was always scared, the preacher at the pulpit preaching fire and brimstone, obey God or go to hell...hmmmm it just didn't sit well with me.
When I was 20 I came across a book of Celtic Magick, and decided to check it out so I bought it, took it home, and it was as if I had found my salvation.
I love Wicca. As an earth based religion with polytheistic beliefs and ideas, it suits the more eclectic worshipper as you can choose which diety to call apon for whatever specific need.
I think the reason I love Wicca so much is because there is no fear, no fire and brimstone, and a deep and abiding love for The Mother Goddess. We do not usually believe in hell, nor do we believe in Heaven..our souls move from body to body, or at least that's my personal belief.
Wicca encompasses so many areas of spirituality and empowerment, personal growth and love for animals and humans alike, that its becoming less feared ..More people are turning to earth religions to find what they can't find in any other religion...freedom.
When I was 20 I came across a book of Celtic Magick, and decided to check it out so I bought it, took it home, and it was as if I had found my salvation.
I love Wicca. As an earth based religion with polytheistic beliefs and ideas, it suits the more eclectic worshipper as you can choose which diety to call apon for whatever specific need.
I think the reason I love Wicca so much is because there is no fear, no fire and brimstone, and a deep and abiding love for The Mother Goddess. We do not usually believe in hell, nor do we believe in Heaven..our souls move from body to body, or at least that's my personal belief.
Wicca encompasses so many areas of spirituality and empowerment, personal growth and love for animals and humans alike, that its becoming less feared ..More people are turning to earth religions to find what they can't find in any other religion...freedom.
HomeAllAlone: Hello LucieLynn,
I can appreciate your stated argument, however, there needs to be one change here and it is that God Almighty is not the God of the USA; recall in the beginning, the he created the world and everything in and on it. Therefore, he is the God of the world.
And because of that fact, the differences of opinions concerning His being and just how He is "being" and what He desires for mankind has caused views that have given way to a twisted view, indeed understanding of His will and purposes to include just how He wants man and woman (mankind) to worship Him, Honor Him and give Him the glory He deserves and expects from his "children."
I can appreciate your stated argument, however, there needs to be one change here and it is that God Almighty is not the God of the USA; recall in the beginning, the he created the world and everything in and on it. Therefore, he is the God of the world.
And because of that fact, the differences of opinions concerning His being and just how He is "being" and what He desires for mankind has caused views that have given way to a twisted view, indeed understanding of His will and purposes to include just how He wants man and woman (mankind) to worship Him, Honor Him and give Him the glory He deserves and expects from his "children."
Ah Lord, Lord...are you the god almighty of the Roman Catholic faith?
"I AM HE WHO I AM"
Ah Lord, Lord...are you the god almighty of the Protestant faith?
"I AM HE WHO I AM"
Ah Lord. Lord...are you the god almighty of the Jehovah Witness faith?
"I AM HE WHO I AM"
Ah Lord. Lord...are you the god almighty of the Seventh Day Adventist faith?
"I AM HE WHO I AM"
Ah Lord, Lord...are you the god almighty of the Jewish faith?
"I AM HE WHO I AM"
Ah Lord, Lord...are you the god almighty of the Christianities, Islamic, Hinduism, Chinese traditional religion, Buddhism, primal-indigenous, African Traditional & Diasporic, Sikhism, Juche, Spiritism religions, Judaism, Baha'i, Jainism, Shinto, Cao Dai, Zoroastrianism, Tenrikyo, Neo-Paganism, Unitarian-Universalism, Rastafarianism, Born Again Christians, or the Scientology faith?
"I AM HE WHO I AM"
Ah Lord, Lord...how about the Church of the Holy Rollers, are you their god almighty?
"I AM HE WHO I AM"
Ah Lord, Lord...are you the god almighty of the Dove Outreach Center?
"WHO?"
"bollywood,"
If I may offer a suggestion...
Never mind the cyclical never ending speeches and mindless arguments over religion. That kind of dialog is not beneficial - I don't know, maybe it is for those that enjoy fruitless arguments; they are the ones that just like to rial another up or just enjoy listening to themselves spill meaningless babble.
Yes, everyone may do, worship and believe what they want. If it is Visnu or Balial or beelzebub - the devil, that's for you own conscience to deal with. But it would behoove the witless and self important wise one to seek out the truth of God found in His Word and not that of man with his perverted and convoluted philosophies.
If I may offer a suggestion...
Never mind the cyclical never ending speeches and mindless arguments over religion. That kind of dialog is not beneficial - I don't know, maybe it is for those that enjoy fruitless arguments; they are the ones that just like to rial another up or just enjoy listening to themselves spill meaningless babble.
Yes, everyone may do, worship and believe what they want. If it is Visnu or Balial or beelzebub - the devil, that's for you own conscience to deal with. But it would behoove the witless and self important wise one to seek out the truth of God found in His Word and not that of man with his perverted and convoluted philosophies.
Your loss!
And if you don't care, there is one that does and He's not partial even to heathens and infidels.
And if you don't care, there is one that does and He's not partial even to heathens and infidels.
I wondered how long it would take for the mocker to arrive - oh, wait, he's been here for a very long time.
Don't you know that the good news of God's Kingdom the intellectual can not see, hear or understand. What is it that you live for? Don't tell me, yourself - sounds like the condemned one to me.
"Mocker" it must give you great pleasure to distract the intelligent dialog and curiosity of others; however, you will get your comeuppance on the His day just as the Pharisees, Sadducees along with Adam and Eve and oh, yes, Judas Iscariot and many more.
By the way...
Have a nice day!
Don't you know that the good news of God's Kingdom the intellectual can not see, hear or understand. What is it that you live for? Don't tell me, yourself - sounds like the condemned one to me.
"Mocker" it must give you great pleasure to distract the intelligent dialog and curiosity of others; however, you will get your comeuppance on the His day just as the Pharisees, Sadducees along with Adam and Eve and oh, yes, Judas Iscariot and many more.
By the way...
Have a nice day!
HomeAllAlone: I wondered how long it would take for the mocker to arrive - oh, wait, he's been here for a very long time.
Don't you know that the good news of God's Kingdom the intellectual can not see, hear or understand. What is it that you live for? Don't tell me, yourself - sounds like the condemned one to me.
"Mocker" it must give you great pleasure to distract the intelligent dialog and curiosity of others; however, you will get your comeuppance on the His day just as the Pharisees, Sadducees along with Adam and Eve and oh, yes, Judas Iscariot and many more.
By the way...
Have a nice day!
Don't you know that the good news of God's Kingdom the intellectual can not see, hear or understand. What is it that you live for? Don't tell me, yourself - sounds like the condemned one to me.
"Mocker" it must give you great pleasure to distract the intelligent dialog and curiosity of others; however, you will get your comeuppance on the His day just as the Pharisees, Sadducees along with Adam and Eve and oh, yes, Judas Iscariot and many more.
By the way...
Have a nice day!
Great, another intellectual who can't figure out the basics of using the quotes feature!
Ms "KillaKitty64,
If you really were taught what the Word speaks to all, you would have understood that only man gave us the fear of fire and brimstone in their misguided and misunderstood belief that it is what God want to do to the wicked. No, nowhere in the Word of God is there a teaching of a hell. The Bible teaches that the common grave of mankind is the burial ground and it is know as hades and sheol or the word used loosly, hell.
I would view your pleasure of Wicca is due to all the hocus pocus and paganistic rituals - that call to the demons really of this word. I do understand that many that practice Wicca believe they do good and are pleasing not one god but many, just like the ancients - the ones that God disapprove of.
The teaching of God brought forth by God are the oldest belief system of man - before the "scattering of man on the face of the planet from Babylon and it dismisses of course man's own beliefs that have splintered off over the centuries - a little of this and a little of that - thus giving birth to the things that do not bring honor to God. So, again, the polytheistic beliefs and ideas did not originate with God but indeed with man and what he thinks God is and wants from Him. You'll find that type of myth story line in one of the Star Trek: Next Generation episodes about the Mintakins (sp?) an ancient precursor of the Vulcans.
If Wicca is exciting and fun to practice, more power to you, friend. Just remember that there are those of us that choose the protection of the one... just one!
If you really were taught what the Word speaks to all, you would have understood that only man gave us the fear of fire and brimstone in their misguided and misunderstood belief that it is what God want to do to the wicked. No, nowhere in the Word of God is there a teaching of a hell. The Bible teaches that the common grave of mankind is the burial ground and it is know as hades and sheol or the word used loosly, hell.
I would view your pleasure of Wicca is due to all the hocus pocus and paganistic rituals - that call to the demons really of this word. I do understand that many that practice Wicca believe they do good and are pleasing not one god but many, just like the ancients - the ones that God disapprove of.
The teaching of God brought forth by God are the oldest belief system of man - before the "scattering of man on the face of the planet from Babylon and it dismisses of course man's own beliefs that have splintered off over the centuries - a little of this and a little of that - thus giving birth to the things that do not bring honor to God. So, again, the polytheistic beliefs and ideas did not originate with God but indeed with man and what he thinks God is and wants from Him. You'll find that type of myth story line in one of the Star Trek: Next Generation episodes about the Mintakins (sp?) an ancient precursor of the Vulcans.
If Wicca is exciting and fun to practice, more power to you, friend. Just remember that there are those of us that choose the protection of the one... just one!
How about...
"!" this?
And oh how I wish I were an intellectual! Ya, I'm just a modest man trying to find my way and trying to avoid the bitter ones. Wake up man, life can be marvelous, truly great. Perhaps you too should avoid the bitter that roam about these pages.
Sadly, I find many on the polls and blog very intelligent, so much so that the wind up fooling themselves.
Live, drink and be merry for tomorrow we shall all die...
Sheesh, what a mentallity! But it is the world we live in now, isn't it?
"!" this?
And oh how I wish I were an intellectual! Ya, I'm just a modest man trying to find my way and trying to avoid the bitter ones. Wake up man, life can be marvelous, truly great. Perhaps you too should avoid the bitter that roam about these pages.
Sadly, I find many on the polls and blog very intelligent, so much so that the wind up fooling themselves.
Live, drink and be merry for tomorrow we shall all die...
Sheesh, what a mentallity! But it is the world we live in now, isn't it?
Well, I would love to stay around and play the games with you but I do have a life and I grow weary of the argumentative "cement heads" - the unreasonable ones, yes, the ones that nit pick and waste those wonderful God-given abilities called thought and reason.
I bid you all a good evening/night...
I bid you all a good evening/night...
HomeAllAlone: How about...
"!" this?
And oh how I wish I were an intellectual! Ya, I'm just a modest man trying to find my way and trying to avoid the bitter ones. Wake up man, life can be marvelous, truly great. Perhaps you too should avoid the bitter that roam about these pages.
Sadly, I find many on the polls and blog very intelligent, so much so that the wind up fooling themselves.
Live, drink and be merry for tomorrow we shall all die...
Sheesh, what a mentallity! But it is the world we live in now, isn't it?
"!" this?
And oh how I wish I were an intellectual! Ya, I'm just a modest man trying to find my way and trying to avoid the bitter ones. Wake up man, life can be marvelous, truly great. Perhaps you too should avoid the bitter that roam about these pages.
Sadly, I find many on the polls and blog very intelligent, so much so that the wind up fooling themselves.
Live, drink and be merry for tomorrow we shall all die...
Sheesh, what a mentallity! But it is the world we live in now, isn't it?
it's obvious what you are...
I believe in my religion i.e. Christianity because,well its obvious really, we have the best looking statues and pictures,nicest buildings,lovely little crucifix's to wear round your neck,all different sizes and colours of holy cards for all occasions,pocket bibles etc.Overall just better apparell and nick nacks in general than all the other world religions put together.
Lets face facts who goes on date with a small statue of buddha peeping out of their pocket or worse still who'd be caught dead wearing a mohammed pendant.
For what its worth just an old bigot's invalid opinion.
Lets face facts who goes on date with a small statue of buddha peeping out of their pocket or worse still who'd be caught dead wearing a mohammed pendant.
For what its worth just an old bigot's invalid opinion. I don't think you want to get into it, "Mocker!" Because it just might be "time" for you to get your clock cleaned - get my drift?
As the saying goes (I know you've heard it before)...
If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything. And that my dear pisan, goes for thinking unkind things.
As the saying goes (I know you've heard it before)...
If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything. And that my dear pisan, goes for thinking unkind things.
Noted!
And I do find you sarcasm, very witty. Thanks for the chuckle. (seriously)
And I do find you sarcasm, very witty. Thanks for the chuckle. (seriously)
HomeAllAlone: I don't think you want to get into it, "Mocker!" Because it just might be "time" for you to get your clock cleaned - get my drift?
As the saying goes (I know you've heard it before)...
If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything. And that my dear pisan, goes for thinking unkind things.
As the saying goes (I know you've heard it before)...
If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything. And that my dear pisan, goes for thinking unkind things.
What are your thoughts on these passages?
StressFree: What are your thoughts on these passages?
Thanks for that, wish I had seen it before I replied to what's his name.
It's worth copying down!
You and I don't have the kind of time it would take to give not my point of view but that of God according to His Word...
Do you believe in God - if not why?
If the article "Violence and the Biblical God" that has put you off believing in Him then I say to you study, search and research.
Killing? Basically, if you are the owner of any object or created thing wouldn't you think that you may do as you need to in order to serve a purpose?
Think man! God is Almighty, and as His creation we are obligated to obey Him and to learn of His will and purpose. God does everything for a reason - or do you believe he hasn't the legal right?
Recall that man's disobedience began in Paradise, the Garden of Eden - God's creation and possession. Therefore, isn't it logical that he being in control may (righteously) punish the outright disobedient?
The wars of the ancients of the Bible were fought for a reason; it was to fulfill the desires of God. He is the sanctioning body - he alone.
Let's face it; yes you wouldn’t kill off your offspring because you love them, right? But then what higher purpose to fulfill do you have in life?
Your job as a parent as with the ancient parents is to teach them the ways of God - all his righteous ways because it is beneficial for them and you as a parent.
So the "killing" of the non-believers was necessary and as non-believers, they did not enjoy the protection of God. They were too busy worshiping the teraphim or at the unholy sites of worship that involved sacred totems.
The article that you've reference is (to me) a reference work of demonism... anyone having respect and love for God would not challenge (the way this article has concerning) God's authority. We are His creation not the other way around.
Also, I can see in the sub-headings article that the answer to much of the "ill will" toward man is already given.
I don't believe I want to get into this material. It seems to me that it was generated only to bolster the obvious hatred toward God...
It's not that I can't answer many of the questions, for I believe I can. It's just the way it is presented that I personally find offensive.
But before I sign off, let's look at Abraham.
God desired men (and women) to be loyal to Him alone. So, Abraham was loyalty was tested. But Abraham did as God asked, without question. Did you happen to notice that his son was also obedient? He was not harmed.
Did not Jesus obey his God and Father obediently offering himself a living sacrifice for the redemption of mankind? Now, do you really think that God wanted to have his only begotten son put to death?
He was raised from death by God Almighty - and by the way, Jesus is the only one every to be raised from death by God; everyone else will be resurrected by the Christ via God given authority and power during the resurrection.
The plagues of Egypt were necessary. They were a cause for the stubborn pharaoh who considered himself a god to realize that there exists a God much more powerful than pharaoh himself and the killing off of the first born is another forerunner of the sacrifice of God's first born.
Does God really want to destroy us (mankind)? The answer is NO! If that were so, why would Jesus have to suffer for the sins of man and die?
God gave his son in order that everyone believing in him may have everlasting life.
Glancing over the material again...
No, friend if you support any of the moronic material in that article, you've been deceived. And if you believe that there's evil in the world, please note that you've stumble onto it. You must get away from that kind of questioning gain the knowledge of God and of His Son, the Christ.
The bottom line is this: You must love your God with all your heart, mind and soul - that is, all your being. Why would we think or assume we have the right to question God and his purposes.
Do you believe in God - if not why?
If the article "Violence and the Biblical God" that has put you off believing in Him then I say to you study, search and research.
Killing? Basically, if you are the owner of any object or created thing wouldn't you think that you may do as you need to in order to serve a purpose?
Think man! God is Almighty, and as His creation we are obligated to obey Him and to learn of His will and purpose. God does everything for a reason - or do you believe he hasn't the legal right?
Recall that man's disobedience began in Paradise, the Garden of Eden - God's creation and possession. Therefore, isn't it logical that he being in control may (righteously) punish the outright disobedient?
The wars of the ancients of the Bible were fought for a reason; it was to fulfill the desires of God. He is the sanctioning body - he alone.
Let's face it; yes you wouldn’t kill off your offspring because you love them, right? But then what higher purpose to fulfill do you have in life?
Your job as a parent as with the ancient parents is to teach them the ways of God - all his righteous ways because it is beneficial for them and you as a parent.
So the "killing" of the non-believers was necessary and as non-believers, they did not enjoy the protection of God. They were too busy worshiping the teraphim or at the unholy sites of worship that involved sacred totems.
The article that you've reference is (to me) a reference work of demonism... anyone having respect and love for God would not challenge (the way this article has concerning) God's authority. We are His creation not the other way around.
Also, I can see in the sub-headings article that the answer to much of the "ill will" toward man is already given.
I don't believe I want to get into this material. It seems to me that it was generated only to bolster the obvious hatred toward God...
It's not that I can't answer many of the questions, for I believe I can. It's just the way it is presented that I personally find offensive.
But before I sign off, let's look at Abraham.
God desired men (and women) to be loyal to Him alone. So, Abraham was loyalty was tested. But Abraham did as God asked, without question. Did you happen to notice that his son was also obedient? He was not harmed.
Did not Jesus obey his God and Father obediently offering himself a living sacrifice for the redemption of mankind? Now, do you really think that God wanted to have his only begotten son put to death?
He was raised from death by God Almighty - and by the way, Jesus is the only one every to be raised from death by God; everyone else will be resurrected by the Christ via God given authority and power during the resurrection.
The plagues of Egypt were necessary. They were a cause for the stubborn pharaoh who considered himself a god to realize that there exists a God much more powerful than pharaoh himself and the killing off of the first born is another forerunner of the sacrifice of God's first born.
Does God really want to destroy us (mankind)? The answer is NO! If that were so, why would Jesus have to suffer for the sins of man and die?
God gave his son in order that everyone believing in him may have everlasting life.
Glancing over the material again...
No, friend if you support any of the moronic material in that article, you've been deceived. And if you believe that there's evil in the world, please note that you've stumble onto it. You must get away from that kind of questioning gain the knowledge of God and of His Son, the Christ.
The bottom line is this: You must love your God with all your heart, mind and soul - that is, all your being. Why would we think or assume we have the right to question God and his purposes.
HomeAllAlone: You and I don't have the kind of time it would take to give not my point of view but that of God according to His Word...
Do you believe in God - if not why?
If the article "Violence and the Biblical God" that has put you off believing in Him then I say to you study, search and research.
Killing? Basically, if you are the owner of any object or created thing wouldn't you think that you may do as you need to in order to serve a purpose?
Do you believe in God - if not why?
If the article "Violence and the Biblical God" that has put you off believing in Him then I say to you study, search and research.
Killing? Basically, if you are the owner of any object or created thing wouldn't you think that you may do as you need to in order to serve a purpose?
I'm a Pantheist.
The fact is, the Bible depicts a violent and cruel God that lacks understanding for "his creation". Killing rarely serves a purpose, and it does say "Thou Shall Not Kill" in the sixth commandment.
I don't worship such a God, and believe this God to be inaccurately depicted in the OT and NT.
Save your evangelical stuff btw, I've seen all the hand waving arguments from your kind when I put the facts out there. It's all in there in the link I gave you---the cruel passages of your cruel God.
"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God." - Thomas Paine
StressFree: I'm a Pantheist.
The fact is, the Bible depicts a violent and cruel God that lacks understanding for "his creation". Killing rarely serves a purpose, and it does say "Thou Shall Not Kill" in the sixth commandment.
I don't worship such a God, and believe this God to be inaccurately depicted in the OT and NT.
Save your evangelical stuff btw, I've seen all the hand waving arguments from your kind when I put the facts out there. It's all in there in the link I gave you---the cruel passages of your cruel God.
"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God." - Thomas Paine
The fact is, the Bible depicts a violent and cruel God that lacks understanding for "his creation". Killing rarely serves a purpose, and it does say "Thou Shall Not Kill" in the sixth commandment.
I don't worship such a God, and believe this God to be inaccurately depicted in the OT and NT.
Save your evangelical stuff btw, I've seen all the hand waving arguments from your kind when I put the facts out there. It's all in there in the link I gave you---the cruel passages of your cruel God.
"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God." - Thomas Paine
I see that you are a worshiper of man...
You love those quotes do you? Enough to live by them?
Your choice - "head-on!"
I on the other hand shall not be set up for useless argument presentations from a lost soul for I believe you are afraid of the truth of God and deliberately seek misinformation to live by that's what happens to a worshiper of man.
If you're happy and it's the way for you - O.K.
Lates
What I am about to say is not meant to hurt or offend anyone it is just my opinion.
I think that unfotunately the word GOD for many does not hold within it a feeling of peace, love, comfort, salvation or kindness. Through mans actions in the name of god, his interpretation of god and the people I have known and how I have been treated by them and they say they are christians I can,t feel any connection I'm afraid.
So I do not follow a religion even though I have looked into some of them. I do, however believe there is a higher energy than us which I call a Divine Spirit, Love and Light. I call it that because I am what new age people would call a light worker and therefore I know and feel the divine energy and have been a witness of its awesome power.
You can believe it or not but unless you have felt or had the experience that I have you cannot judge me or my belief, just as I do not discredit others, because we have no evidence to disbelieve it
Back to GOD, the energy is the same, IT IS LOVE, we just call it a different name is all. When we can truely have oneness in the world regardless of religion, race etc etc... Then peace will riegn supreme!.....
I think that unfotunately the word GOD for many does not hold within it a feeling of peace, love, comfort, salvation or kindness. Through mans actions in the name of god, his interpretation of god and the people I have known and how I have been treated by them and they say they are christians I can,t feel any connection I'm afraid.
So I do not follow a religion even though I have looked into some of them. I do, however believe there is a higher energy than us which I call a Divine Spirit, Love and Light. I call it that because I am what new age people would call a light worker and therefore I know and feel the divine energy and have been a witness of its awesome power.
You can believe it or not but unless you have felt or had the experience that I have you cannot judge me or my belief, just as I do not discredit others, because we have no evidence to disbelieve it
Back to GOD, the energy is the same, IT IS LOVE, we just call it a different name is all. When we can truely have oneness in the world regardless of religion, race etc etc... Then peace will riegn supreme!.....
ali110: Becoz Islam is true
Every believer think that their religion is the only one which is true
HomeAllAlone:
I on the other hand shall not be set up for useless argument presentations from a lost soul for I believe you are afraid of the truth of God and deliberately seek misinformation to live by that's what happens to a worshiper of man.
I on the other hand shall not be set up for useless argument presentations from a lost soul for I believe you are afraid of the truth of God and deliberately seek misinformation to live by that's what happens to a worshiper of man.
I see, anyone who does not hold the same view as you, is a lost soul.
I only seek my truth, respect it---know your scripture, for it states to only have understanding. I see you had no proper explanation to explain all the violence in the Bible. It's not misinformation, it's all in the Bible.
HomeAllAlone: "afterbam,"
Well said for a person that comes from an area/portion of the U.S. that was begun by religious zealots that in their opinion had and may still have a love for God.
Has it left a bad taste? I submit to you that it's only the rebellious spirit that many of us cannot contain - we allow it to blind our eyes, cloud our reasoning, in a way we hide from what is unknown. Why is it, that we don't hide from evil or evil doings? We know that evil exists. But why aren't we scared?
Indeed it (evil) has many running to their "death" (the wrong path). Really, it is just plain old denial and stubbornness that says to others, no one tells me how to live or what to do with my life; but on the contrary there is one that shows us how to live and how to live to time indefinite.
Well said for a person that comes from an area/portion of the U.S. that was begun by religious zealots that in their opinion had and may still have a love for God.
Has it left a bad taste? I submit to you that it's only the rebellious spirit that many of us cannot contain - we allow it to blind our eyes, cloud our reasoning, in a way we hide from what is unknown. Why is it, that we don't hide from evil or evil doings? We know that evil exists. But why aren't we scared?
Indeed it (evil) has many running to their "death" (the wrong path). Really, it is just plain old denial and stubbornness that says to others, no one tells me how to live or what to do with my life; but on the contrary there is one that shows us how to live and how to live to time indefinite.
I'm a Christian, cos God Evangelism me, no man on earth can do what he has done for me...Religion has become a business, war and strife, where anyone believes to be right...I get carried away by his Holy Spirit...His word says: "Cursed 's the man who believes in another man"..we're living in dangerous times, where the only thing that protects us, 's the word of God and the discernment of His Holy Spirit...Is what guide us into all truth...the atheist can insult God, and God can forgive them, but if they insulted the Holy Spirit, has no forgiveness in this world, nor, after death...I don't live buy Religion...
I don't believe in any religion, belief, faith or spirituality. Whether it be ancient or modern, northern, southern, eastern or western. At the core of every doctrine, dogma, theology and radical philosophy lies a pre-supposition that doesn't stand up to reasoned scrutiny.
We tend to exaggerate our significance in the universe.
We question our place in this universe looking for meaning when there is a high probability there isn't be one.
We tend to exaggerate our significance in the universe.
We question our place in this universe looking for meaning when there is a high probability there isn't be one.
HomeAllAlone: You and I don't have the kind of time it would take to give not my point of view but that of God according to His Word...
Do you believe in God - if not why?
If the article "Violence and the Biblical God" that has put you off believing in Him then I say to you study, search and research.
Killing? Basically, if you are the owner of any object or created thing wouldn't you think that you may do as you need to in order to serve a purpose?
Think man! God is Almighty, and as His creation we are obligated to obey Him and to learn of His will and purpose. God does everything for a reason - or do you believe he hasn't the legal right?
Recall that man's disobedience began in Paradise, the Garden of Eden - God's creation and possession. Therefore, isn't it logical that he being in control may (righteously) punish the outright disobedient?
The wars of the ancients of the Bible were fought for a reason; it was to fulfill the desires of God. He is the sanctioning body - he alone.
Let's face it; yes you wouldn’t kill off your offspring because you love them, right? But then what higher purpose to fulfill do you have in life?
Your job as a parent as with the ancient parents is to teach them the ways of God - all his righteous ways because it is beneficial for them and you as a parent.
So the "killing" of the non-believers was necessary and as non-believers, they did not enjoy the protection of God. They were too busy worshiping the teraphim or at the unholy sites of worship that involved sacred totems.
The article that you've reference is (to me) a reference work of demonism... anyone having respect and love for God would not challenge (the way this article has concerning) God's authority. We are His creation not the other way around.
Also, I can see in the sub-headings article that the answer to much of the "ill will" toward man is already given.
I don't believe I want to get into this material. It seems to me that it was generated only to bolster the obvious hatred toward God...
It's not that I can't answer many of the questions, for I believe I can. It's just the way it is presented that I personally find offensive.
But before I sign off, let's look at Abraham.
God desired men (and women) to be loyal to Him alone. So, Abraham was loyalty was tested. But Abraham did as God asked, without question. Did you happen to notice that his son was also obedient? He was not harmed.
Did not Jesus obey his God and Father obediently offering himself a living sacrifice for the redemption of mankind? Now, do you really think that God wanted to have his only begotten son put to death?
He was raised from death by God Almighty - and by the way, Jesus is the only one every to be raised from death by God; everyone else will be resurrected by the Christ via God given authority and power during the resurrection.
The plagues of Egypt were necessary. They were a cause for the stubborn pharaoh who considered himself a god to realize that there exists a God much more powerful than pharaoh himself and the killing off of the first born is another forerunner of the sacrifice of God's first born.
Does God really want to destroy us (mankind)? The answer is NO! If that were so, why would Jesus have to suffer for the sins of man and die?
God gave his son in order that everyone believing in him may have everlasting life.
Glancing over the material again...
No, friend if you support any of the moronic material in that article, you've been deceived. And if you believe that there's evil in the world, please note that you've stumble onto it. You must get away from that kind of questioning gain the knowledge of God and of His Son, the Christ.
The bottom line is this: You must love your God with all your heart, mind and soul - that is, all your being. Why would we think or assume we have the right to question God and his purposes.
Do you believe in God - if not why?
If the article "Violence and the Biblical God" that has put you off believing in Him then I say to you study, search and research.
Killing? Basically, if you are the owner of any object or created thing wouldn't you think that you may do as you need to in order to serve a purpose?
Think man! God is Almighty, and as His creation we are obligated to obey Him and to learn of His will and purpose. God does everything for a reason - or do you believe he hasn't the legal right?
Recall that man's disobedience began in Paradise, the Garden of Eden - God's creation and possession. Therefore, isn't it logical that he being in control may (righteously) punish the outright disobedient?
The wars of the ancients of the Bible were fought for a reason; it was to fulfill the desires of God. He is the sanctioning body - he alone.
Let's face it; yes you wouldn’t kill off your offspring because you love them, right? But then what higher purpose to fulfill do you have in life?
Your job as a parent as with the ancient parents is to teach them the ways of God - all his righteous ways because it is beneficial for them and you as a parent.
So the "killing" of the non-believers was necessary and as non-believers, they did not enjoy the protection of God. They were too busy worshiping the teraphim or at the unholy sites of worship that involved sacred totems.
The article that you've reference is (to me) a reference work of demonism... anyone having respect and love for God would not challenge (the way this article has concerning) God's authority. We are His creation not the other way around.
Also, I can see in the sub-headings article that the answer to much of the "ill will" toward man is already given.
I don't believe I want to get into this material. It seems to me that it was generated only to bolster the obvious hatred toward God...
It's not that I can't answer many of the questions, for I believe I can. It's just the way it is presented that I personally find offensive.
But before I sign off, let's look at Abraham.
God desired men (and women) to be loyal to Him alone. So, Abraham was loyalty was tested. But Abraham did as God asked, without question. Did you happen to notice that his son was also obedient? He was not harmed.
Did not Jesus obey his God and Father obediently offering himself a living sacrifice for the redemption of mankind? Now, do you really think that God wanted to have his only begotten son put to death?
He was raised from death by God Almighty - and by the way, Jesus is the only one every to be raised from death by God; everyone else will be resurrected by the Christ via God given authority and power during the resurrection.
The plagues of Egypt were necessary. They were a cause for the stubborn pharaoh who considered himself a god to realize that there exists a God much more powerful than pharaoh himself and the killing off of the first born is another forerunner of the sacrifice of God's first born.
Does God really want to destroy us (mankind)? The answer is NO! If that were so, why would Jesus have to suffer for the sins of man and die?
God gave his son in order that everyone believing in him may have everlasting life.
Glancing over the material again...
No, friend if you support any of the moronic material in that article, you've been deceived. And if you believe that there's evil in the world, please note that you've stumble onto it. You must get away from that kind of questioning gain the knowledge of God and of His Son, the Christ.
The bottom line is this: You must love your God with all your heart, mind and soul - that is, all your being. Why would we think or assume we have the right to question God and his purposes.
Amazing...thanks...
HomeAllAlone: jeffc320,
I surely understand where you're coming from. And yes, many of us should show an equal amount of disdain for what the "white-man" has perpetrated on fellowman. But from the Biblical aspect, God's Word tells us that man will show his inhumanity towards his brother. And it (the Bible) tells us that there are outside influences that help to drive "imperfect" man to commit so many atrocities - need I say, Satan and his demons?
Yes, I believe in the evil one, the originator (father as it were) of the first lie. This badness of men is in their hearts due to imperfection and it will not change - wouldn't you agree that it has only gotten worse with the passing of time? Well, it won't get any better, for there is NO MAN living on the earth today that can harness our (human populace) woes, kissing it and making it better.
No, friend, it's not religion or the Bible that is at fault. It is how the wicked one has influenced the minds and hearts of man - those that try to interpret the Word to make it fit their belief and view. It is he (Satan) that has all of us angry, jealous, displaying our covetousness and wanting to destroy, to kill off his "brother."
Really, how could anyone blame a book of sacred writings? Put the blame where it belongs do not take the easy route by blaming God or His Word or men that wish to speak and teach the truth of the Word.
Jeff, don't be so angry and closed minded. Be at peace with yourself and your brother. Don't be fearful of claiming to love God and his intelligent creation of man and the universe.
Satan is bolstered by "Nay Sayers" and claps his hands jumping up and down with great glee only fooling himself in thinking he's winning, for he knows what God has in store for him - he is well aware of the holy writings he actually know the end result; so, what does he have to loose? His life? He gave that up when he challenged the headship and the authority of God to rule over
mankind - His creation.
I surely understand where you're coming from. And yes, many of us should show an equal amount of disdain for what the "white-man" has perpetrated on fellowman. But from the Biblical aspect, God's Word tells us that man will show his inhumanity towards his brother. And it (the Bible) tells us that there are outside influences that help to drive "imperfect" man to commit so many atrocities - need I say, Satan and his demons?
Yes, I believe in the evil one, the originator (father as it were) of the first lie. This badness of men is in their hearts due to imperfection and it will not change - wouldn't you agree that it has only gotten worse with the passing of time? Well, it won't get any better, for there is NO MAN living on the earth today that can harness our (human populace) woes, kissing it and making it better.
No, friend, it's not religion or the Bible that is at fault. It is how the wicked one has influenced the minds and hearts of man - those that try to interpret the Word to make it fit their belief and view. It is he (Satan) that has all of us angry, jealous, displaying our covetousness and wanting to destroy, to kill off his "brother."
Really, how could anyone blame a book of sacred writings? Put the blame where it belongs do not take the easy route by blaming God or His Word or men that wish to speak and teach the truth of the Word.
Jeff, don't be so angry and closed minded. Be at peace with yourself and your brother. Don't be fearful of claiming to love God and his intelligent creation of man and the universe.
Satan is bolstered by "Nay Sayers" and claps his hands jumping up and down with great glee only fooling himself in thinking he's winning, for he knows what God has in store for him - he is well aware of the holy writings he actually know the end result; so, what does he have to loose? His life? He gave that up when he challenged the headship and the authority of God to rule over
mankind - His creation.
God ? Devil ?
Utter gibberish i'm afraid.
True, human beings are good and bad but don't play the blame game. I'm not religious in the slightest. If i am bad i will say sorry and mean it. I will take responsibility for my words/actions etc. I will not blame it on the equally dubious notion of satan.
All too often religious types use blame as a way of not getting punished for the crimes they commit both to themselves and others. He made me do it. She forced me into it etc. Its all blame and not taking responsibility for ones actions. How can you seriously believe that a book was written by God or through God or whatever ? Its all man made and just geared up to make people like me feel fear or intimidation and hey presto we turn up in church and hand over our hard earned money. Nothing more than a glorified cult under the pretence of loving thy neighbour.
I don't buy it for one second.
I speak from my own mind, i'm not brainwashed and i'm not afraid of living the life i want, believing what i want and loving how i want.
jeffc320: God ? Devil ?
Utter gibberish i'm afraid.
True, human beings are good and bad but don't play the blame game. I'm not religious in the slightest. If i am bad i will say sorry and mean it. I will take responsibility for my words/actions etc. I will not blame it on the equally dubious notion of satan.
All too often religious types use blame as a way of not getting punished for the crimes they commit both to themselves and others. He made me do it. She forced me into it etc. Its all blame and not taking responsibility for ones actions. How can you seriously believe that a book was written by God or through God or whatever ? Its all man made and just geared up to make people like me feel fear or intimidation and hey presto we turn up in church and hand over our hard earned money. Nothing more than a glorified cult under the pretence of loving thy neighbour.
I don't buy it for one second.
I speak from my own mind, i'm not brainwashed and i'm not afraid of living the life i want, believing what i want and loving how i want.
Utter gibberish i'm afraid.
True, human beings are good and bad but don't play the blame game. I'm not religious in the slightest. If i am bad i will say sorry and mean it. I will take responsibility for my words/actions etc. I will not blame it on the equally dubious notion of satan.
All too often religious types use blame as a way of not getting punished for the crimes they commit both to themselves and others. He made me do it. She forced me into it etc. Its all blame and not taking responsibility for ones actions. How can you seriously believe that a book was written by God or through God or whatever ? Its all man made and just geared up to make people like me feel fear or intimidation and hey presto we turn up in church and hand over our hard earned money. Nothing more than a glorified cult under the pretence of loving thy neighbour.
I don't buy it for one second.
I speak from my own mind, i'm not brainwashed and i'm not afraid of living the life i want, believing what i want and loving how i want.
jeffc320 - I see that you've blocked email reception from me...
Don't understand why, but O.K., you must be one of those hit and runner's...
So, I'll send you my rebuttal in two parts - don't worry I'm really a very kind man and you just may appreciate my review.
jeffc, hello again,
Now there is no need to be upset. By your comment I can see that you don't really have a handle one the teachings of the Bible and it's O.K., you can always learn.
One the Bible teaches is humility; knowing your place in life - in the grand scheme of things.
Let's look at what you've stated, shall we?
"True, human beings are good and bad."
A truer statement could not be made.
"If i am bad i will say sorry and mean it. I will take responsibility for my words/actions etc. And I applaud your sincerity.
However, many will say I'm sorry or I apologize; but because they are "true human(s)" the tendency is to repeat offend wouldn't you agree? Would you agree too that some may enjoy displaying hostilities toward another and thus continue with their bad way and with a false sense of pride or superiority, never chose to stop?
"I will not blame it on the equally dubious notion of satan."
You are in the minority when it comes to the recognition of the evil one, the deceiver and slanderer Satan, the Devil. Why is their is so much wrong, hurt, pain disdain for fellow man? It comes from somewhere or do you think it to be a grand conspiracy to support your "dubious" (doubting Thomas) stance? Do not you be fooled, make no mistake there are things going on all around that people are literally blind to. Yes, Satan lives for now but if he does not exist in your mind or life, why are so many books and movies made about him? Why do the "people" of the world desire to him instead of a much higher being?
"All too often religious types use blame as a way of not getting punished for the crimes they commit both to themselves and others. He made me do it. She forced me into it etc. Its all blame and not taking responsibility for ones actions."
jeffc, the only ones that use the "blame game" are the one falsely claiming to have a love of goodness - indeed, God. They are the ones that are out for themselves; to seize what does not belong to them and really do not have a Godly bone in them.
The people that claim to honestly love God and believe that He is aware of their life's doings will never blame another to escape punishment because God's Word has told all what happens to deceivers.
"How can you seriously believe that a book was written by God or through God or whatever?
First, a valid question. I believe because I am aware that the Creator of all things seen and unseen (reference to the spirit life) cannot and will not lie - he is the example for the Christ and the followers of the Christ, Jesus.
Second, you are not aware of the archeological findings of sites and document that have proved Biblical passages as to their existence. Do you get National Geographic - although it's scientific in nature - using a "scientist" eye, biblical scholars are invited to review findings at the dig sites.
Now there is no need to be upset. By your comment I can see that you don't really have a handle one the teachings of the Bible and it's O.K., you can always learn.
One the Bible teaches is humility; knowing your place in life - in the grand scheme of things.
Let's look at what you've stated, shall we?
"True, human beings are good and bad."
A truer statement could not be made.
"If i am bad i will say sorry and mean it. I will take responsibility for my words/actions etc. And I applaud your sincerity.
However, many will say I'm sorry or I apologize; but because they are "true human(s)" the tendency is to repeat offend wouldn't you agree? Would you agree too that some may enjoy displaying hostilities toward another and thus continue with their bad way and with a false sense of pride or superiority, never chose to stop?
"I will not blame it on the equally dubious notion of satan."
You are in the minority when it comes to the recognition of the evil one, the deceiver and slanderer Satan, the Devil. Why is their is so much wrong, hurt, pain disdain for fellow man? It comes from somewhere or do you think it to be a grand conspiracy to support your "dubious" (doubting Thomas) stance? Do not you be fooled, make no mistake there are things going on all around that people are literally blind to. Yes, Satan lives for now but if he does not exist in your mind or life, why are so many books and movies made about him? Why do the "people" of the world desire to him instead of a much higher being?
"All too often religious types use blame as a way of not getting punished for the crimes they commit both to themselves and others. He made me do it. She forced me into it etc. Its all blame and not taking responsibility for ones actions."
jeffc, the only ones that use the "blame game" are the one falsely claiming to have a love of goodness - indeed, God. They are the ones that are out for themselves; to seize what does not belong to them and really do not have a Godly bone in them.
The people that claim to honestly love God and believe that He is aware of their life's doings will never blame another to escape punishment because God's Word has told all what happens to deceivers.
"How can you seriously believe that a book was written by God or through God or whatever?
First, a valid question. I believe because I am aware that the Creator of all things seen and unseen (reference to the spirit life) cannot and will not lie - he is the example for the Christ and the followers of the Christ, Jesus.
Second, you are not aware of the archeological findings of sites and document that have proved Biblical passages as to their existence. Do you get National Geographic - although it's scientific in nature - using a "scientist" eye, biblical scholars are invited to review findings at the dig sites.
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I believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.
I believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. Who for us men and for our salvation He came down from heaven; by the power of the Holy Spirit He was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, He suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day He rose again from the dead in accordance with Scriptures; He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets.
I believe in one holy catholic and Apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins, and I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come.
Amen.