Why do you believe in your religion ( Archived) (72)

I believe in the God of my country USA, because in our Declaration of Independence and Constitution it is God that gives Americans their rights. We do not get our rights from our government, we get them from God "Inalienable rights endowed to us by our Creator". If an American did not believe in the Christian God of our nation's founders then...that person would be dying their rights...and not accepting their rights. It is important in America to remember that we don't get our rights from the government. "We the people" give our government limited priveledges to regulate commerce and provide protection from our enemies. That's why I believe in God, so I will never have to have a king. By the way - The United States does have a designated God. It says "Inalienable Rights endowed to us by our Creator" That is creator without an "S". Not Gods....one God for the whole country. Why can't people that are not Christians understand this?

The lady's on a mission...

It's the wrong mission though...

Jefferson and religion - from wiki: The religious views of Thomas Jefferson diverged widely from the orthodox Christianity of his day... Together with James Madison, Jefferson carried on a long and successful campaign against state financial support of churches in Virginia. During his 1800 campaign for the presidency, he had to contend with critics who argued that he was unfit to hold office because he did not have orthodox religious beliefs. It is Jefferson who is credited with propagating the phrase "separation of church and state". He cut and pasted pieces of the New Testament together to compose a version that excluded any miracles by Jesus. Though he often expressed his opposition to clergy and to Christian doctrines, Jefferson repeatedly expressed his belief in a deistic god and his admiration for Jesus as a moral teacher. Opposed to Calvinism, Trinitarianism and what he identified as Platonic elements in Christianity, in 1819 he expressed his religious commitment by his proclamation that he belonged to "a sect by myself".

Does this rag smell like chloroform to you?

Bossy Tucker! was he growling non-stop?

I was baptized Roman Catholic to follow tradition and culture and forced to learn about it in school. But at home we are neutral.

Lucie you may want to stop listening to the people who told you our Constitution and Declaration of Independence say anything about the christian god. They misled you horribly. See what happens when you blindly accept what people tell you without doing any fact checking? Remember do some basic fact checking.

Our Declaration of Independence makes NO mention of your god. The creator referred to in the Declaration of Independence is the God of Deism. NOT the christian god. Thomas Jefferson who was a DEIST not a christian, wrote the Declaration of Independence and he was not a fan of the christian god. In fact Jefferson Despised Christianity. Jefferson has been quoted as saying; "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone upon man". Again the Creator referred to by Jefferson is the God of Deism, NOT the god of Christianity.

If our founding fathers wanted a christian nation why is there no mention of God Jesus or Christianity in our constitution? It's because our founding fathers wanted religion to have NO part in our government. Witness the Treaty of Tripoli, Approved UNANIMOUSLY by our Congress in 1797 and signed into law by Pres. Adams, Article 11 of the Treaty specifically states; "The United States of America is in NO WAY founded upon Christianity". This alone makes it very clear our founding fathers wanted religion to have NO part in our government. Also look at Article VI of the Constitution which states that "No religious test shall be required for any office in the government.

Lastly lets look at your bible shall we? In Matthew 4:8-10 Satan offers jesus all the kingdoms on earth if jesus will worship Satan. Jesus refused to take the kingdoms on earth from Satan.This story confirms that Satan owns all of the kingdoms on earth. Now ask yourself this; Why would God bless something that belongs to Satan?

There we have it. Both your bible and our founding fathers prove that the US is NOT founded as a christian nation. There is the evidence that you yourself can look up and find out that you were lied to.

PLEASE PLEASE do some fact checking when people try to tell you things. It makes you a better person, and when people try to tell you nonsense like our founding fathers wanted religion in government you will be able to spot a liar.

I am not Christian but I most certainly believe in our Creator AKA God. I don't think the Declaration of Independence or Constitution specifies as "Christian God". Even our "Pledge of Allegiance" does not say Christian God but just God.

Sometimes Creator and God can be used to mean the same and for people whom may be atheists, they may believe in some type of Creator but not necessarily as a religious "God".

It is offensive to make a remark to think that everyone should believe in a Christian God or even God. That is what you have implied by the statement "Why can't people that are not Christians understand this?"

would you shave off your mustache if Islam would ask it from you????

another new religion???



yeap..this's the real one...

Hello LucieLynn,

I can appreciate your stated argument, however, there needs to be one change here and it is that God Almighty is not the God of the USA; recall in the beginning, the he created the world and everything in and on it. Therefore, he is the God of the world.

And because of that fact, the differences of opinions concerning His being and just how He is "being" and what He desires for mankind has caused views that have given way to a twisted view, indeed understanding of His will and purposes to include just how He wants man and woman (mankind) to worship Him, Honor Him and give Him the glory He deserves and expects from his "children."

rickjc25,

I do appreciate your thoroughness and matter of fact approach in giving an explanation, as to where God belongs in our history.

Right, God and State were not commingled in the fashion most people believe or want to believe. The simple fact is this: The people of repressed England wanted to worship freely, the way they wanted to.

The founding fathers were no different, each worshiped in their own way and their faith and religion had its own denomination.

Rick, Mr. Jefferson may indeed have been a deist and Mr. Jefferson indeed was an intelligent man but the Bible tells us that Satan has blinded the eyes of man - to include Mr. Jefferson.

Too, As far as Satan and Jesus' goes, Jesus was being tested, which by the way was what Satan did to Eve - wouldn't you agree that someone with bad intentions will reach out to someone innocent? But we can see in God Word (the Bible) the Son remained and remains now loyal to his Father and his God and was not going to abandon his mission on earth by sinning following Satan in his opposition to God.
As a matter of fact, Jesus had called Satan the Ruler of this world and the Creator, God is not concerned with that because (again) His Word tells gives us the outcome that has been reveled to Christ and all that follow the teaching of Christ - Woe to Mr. Jefferson and those who deny God Almighty.

Mr. Jefferson’s misunderstanding of the validity of the Creator, God and the reason for the earthly existence of Jesus (was)and is his to burden when the judgment of man arrives at the end of this world that is, system of governing by evil men and not the physical earth.

So, God does care, unrealized by the deist Mr. Jefferson, it is why Jesus came to the earth, to die for the sin(s) of mankind and where did this sin come from? From Adam and his beloved Eve; so beloved that he chose her over his Creator. All Adam had to do was remain obedient and God would have given him a new mate to live in perfection, thereby, reasonably the rest of mankind down to this day.

Their sinning against God through disobedience is what took perfection from them and from us, their offspring. Why do suppose there is so much hate and violence and other atrocities perpetrated against our fellow man? It is the god of this world Satan that foments all the wrongs of this world.

We (Christians) and the rest of the unbelieving world will see the power of God Almighty when His warrior King the Christ does His, God's bidding on this earth against Satan’s evil worldly kingdom and destroys the world evil and non-believing mankind - those who say, there is no God. Wake up people, God has place in man the desire to look for something greater than himself and a desire to live and not die but live forever.

I do NOT have a GOD !...........

and I don't think anyone else does either,


just alot of TALK,......... no PROOF...............

here we gooooooooooo,....................


Back to the BIBLE again,..... written BY men,...... for men,.....


again no proof...............

i dont belive

My dear “curiousgeorge2,”

Firstly, there are many that believe in God the Creator, conversely there are many that believe in a god of some kind (just like our pagan ancient ancestor’s) and many that (like you) don’t believe in what cannot be interrogated; do you know what faith is? If you don’t have a belief system well then, I would think that’s your problem.

However, you certainly must have something you devote yourself to (other than family, video or gamming) and some would say (as myself), there’s your god – continue to give it all of your attention for in your last days on earth you will be calling out to God Almighty and if not you, your family will.

Perhaps you may deny having a love or desire for anything… I on the other hand tend to believe you’re misguided and you sir, are self deceiving. Can you, will you admit to whatever it is you focus your daily attention on AS BEING YOUR GOD?

Secondly, this is a format for talk (so to speak) is it not? Then talk I will… notice, I didn’t say preach!

If you knew anything about the Bible you would know that the Bible was authored by God and not by man. Only those that are frightened by truth would deny and declare – I don’t believe in and there is no God. Those scriptures were inspired by the Holy Spirit and given to men to record.

PROVE that the Bible is a fantastic conspiracy! Go ahead, make my day! Can you show prophecy inconsistencies? FYI, my friend, none of the 40 men and a couple of women could keep a conspiracy straight for that many centuries.

Also, PROVE that YOU are a “miracle” of some random prehistoric, pre-biotic soup that just so happened to “evolve” at the right temperature and under the right weather conditions. It takes over 200 different compounds and elements to make a human being.

Science can only produce around 20 pre-biotic materials and artificially stimulate the “goop” to give them the impression of the beginning of life.

Thirdly, if you don’t care for dialog about the Bible, either don’t read the blog or poll… or just don’t get involved.

I bid you, good day, sir.

I probly have no right to say this in here but to me religion is a myth.