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Sep 30, 2010 6:22 PM CSTDo you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
dblrg
dblrgdblrgHebron, Nebraska, USA1 Threads 1 Polls 4 Posts

Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?(Vote Below)

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What do I care, I'm gonna get a pill
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Sep 30, 2010 7:03 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
imsophie1
imsophie1imsophie1Knox, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 501 Posts
They don't prevent disease. They treat it. And they certainly don't want it cured.

Why would they destroy their own profits by allowing diseases to be cured? It's more profitable to treat than to cure. I've heard it from drug reps before. No drug company, no matter what public image they portray, would willingly give away their power by curing any disease.

I read a story last year about a man who was diagnosed with cancer. After doing some research, he left the country for treatment. When he returned a year later, there was no evidence of the cancer. His own doctor performed the tests verifying that the cancer was gone. The doctor then turned around and sued the man for nearly half a million dollars. That was the amount of money the doctor lost by not treating the man.

Sad.
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Sep 30, 2010 7:39 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
Grievous
GrievousGrievousSan Juan, San Juan/Laventille Trinidad and Tobago21 Threads 10 Polls 189 Posts
Also, they tend to treat symptoms more than root causes.
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Sep 30, 2010 8:38 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
dblrg: Just wondering


What worries me is the secret trials they conduct on people in third world contires very mad
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Sep 30, 2010 9:05 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
rune8
rune8rune8South, W.A, Western Australia Australia14 Threads 1,065 Posts
I also believe theyre out to get us addicted to their druuugs man! The ammount of antidepressants that is being consumed is rising as we speak, Some Dr's are being bought by giveaways and promotional incentives etc to promote the drugs, which therefore makes them glorified drug dealers!!! Be aware!!

professor
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Sep 30, 2010 9:06 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
plainlyjune
plainlyjuneplainlyjuneLegazpi City, Bicol Philippines12 Threads 2 Polls 8,175 Posts
ughh.. if this is true.. then it sucks. sigh
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Sep 30, 2010 9:13 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
rune8
rune8rune8South, W.A, Western Australia Australia14 Threads 1,065 Posts
plainlyjune: ughh.. if this is true.. then it sucks.




wave wave Junie.

An interesting classic novel by Aldous Huxley is "A Brave New World" It was written pre 1950 and it touches on controlling of society through adding a drug called Soma to the water keeping everyone mellow and happy to conform. Way before its time but very relevant!!! It was also a movie.

professor
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Sep 30, 2010 9:45 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
dblrg:

Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?

Just wondering


Neither prevent nor cure --

goes against their best interest.
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Sep 30, 2010 9:46 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
plainlyjune: ughh.. if this is true.. then it sucks.



Sadly - it is true.
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Sep 30, 2010 9:48 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
imsophie1: They don't prevent disease. They treat it. And they certainly don't want it cured.

Why would they destroy their own profits by allowing diseases to be cured? It's more profitable to treat than to cure. I've heard it from drug reps before. No drug company, no matter what public image they portray, would willingly give away their power by curing any disease.

I read a story last year about a man who was diagnosed with cancer. After doing some research, he left the country for treatment. When he returned a year later, there was no evidence of the cancer. His own doctor performed the tests verifying that the cancer was gone. The doctor then turned around and sued the man for nearly half a million dollars. That was the amount of money the doctor lost by not treating the man.

Sad.
thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up
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Oct 1, 2010 1:02 AM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
Witchaywoman
WitchaywomanWitchaywomanCarpentersville, Illinois USA97 Threads 13 Polls 4,344 Posts
rune8: Junie.

An interesting classic novel by Aldous Huxley is "A Brave New World" It was written pre 1950 and it touches on controlling of society through adding a drug called Soma to the water keeping everyone mellow and happy to conform. Way before its time but very relevant!!! It was also a movie.


Vitamin A-B-C-D-E-F-G! Send your Soma all to me! wine
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Oct 1, 2010 1:12 AM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Laura25: Neither prevent nor cure --

goes against their best interest.


Not entirely true ...........sometimes they get into direct competition for a cure when they smell huge profits down the road ......
Look up Vertex , Roche, and the others working on a cure for Hepatitis C .......
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Oct 1, 2010 1:59 AM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
and there we are,Smack in the middle of another Conspiracy!laugh
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Oct 1, 2010 11:26 AM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
: Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?

Of course not, that's preposterous.

They ALL have that motto.

Even worse. They invent conditions that didn't even exist before, market them to the public in the form of advertisements and fake articles, and then propose highly addictive drugs to treat the problems they invented out of thin air. That's especially true for psychiatric drugs.
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Oct 1, 2010 11:29 AM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Conrad73: and there we are,Smack in the middle of another Conspiracy!


We are treading water in a sea of conspiracies Conrad.

All designed to separate us from our money, and/or our rights.
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Oct 1, 2010 11:35 AM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
rune8: I also believe theyre out to get us addicted to their druuugs man! The ammount of antidepressants that is being consumed is rising as we speak, Some Dr's are being bought by giveaways and promotional incentives etc to promote the drugs, which therefore makes them glorified drug dealers!!! Be aware!!


Yes. Antidepressants have been proven to be no more effective in treating depression than a placebo. Plus, they are extremely habit forming. They cause permanent damage and often permanent addiction.
They INCREASE the danger of both suicide and violence. They are now (many years too late) officially disadvised for children, adolescents, and young adults, yet they are still prescribed to these groups because they are just so darned profitable for the drug companies and (indirectly but surely) the prescribing doctors.
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Oct 1, 2010 11:41 AM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Aldous Huxley describes the present technical dictatorship.

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Oct 1, 2010 11:46 AM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
mnowsa
mnowsamnowsaRajshahi, Rajshahi Division Bangladesh145 Threads 3 Polls 7,536 Posts
dblrg: Just wondering


And that we call the magic of "capitalism" my friends! innocent
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Oct 1, 2010 11:57 AM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
RayfromUSA: Way back in the 60s, Aldous Huxley described the present technological dictatorship.



Continuation of that interview.

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Oct 1, 2010 11:59 AM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
Of course!

They want a sick and over health conscious population or otherwise they'd be diminishing their own customer base. If one business won't take advantage of you then their competitor will, so in turn they all have to take advantage of you to stay afloat, it's a vicious circle.
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Oct 1, 2010 12:00 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
RayfromUSA: Continuation of that interview.

Gonna boil down Willow-Bark again for a Fever or Headache?laugh
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Oct 1, 2010 12:08 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
dblrg: Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?


I think you meant to say that their motto is "prolong, don't cure".
Prevention is the last thing in the world they want to promote.
It would kill their industry.
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Oct 1, 2010 1:12 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
TrueBlue1986: Of course!

They want a sick and over health conscious population or otherwise they'd be diminishing their own customer base. If one business won't take advantage of you then their competitor will, so in turn they all have to take advantage of you to stay afloat, it's a vicious circle.


Yes, that's why drug companies started pushing their drugs directly to the public through media ads instead of targeting doctors as they did in the past.

This film series really covers the situation well.
Try to watch it all if you can.

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One significant example of how serious the problem is.
Drug companies are permitted to conceal some vital data from the public as trade secrets, including the number of deaths caused by a medication.
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Oct 1, 2010 1:17 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Conrad73: Gonna boil down Willow-Bark again for a Fever or Headache?


Don't let Monsanto find out.
They think they own nature now.
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Oct 1, 2010 1:34 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
RayfromUSA: Yes, that's why drug companies started pushing their drugs directly to the public through media ads instead of targeting doctors as they did in the past.

This film series really covers the situation well.
Try to watch it all if you can.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.

One significant example of how serious the problem is.
Drug companies are permitted to conceal some vital data from the public as trade secrets, including the number of deaths caused by a medication.


Prescribed drugs are the fifth highest cause of death in the states, crikey!

A good comparison to draw is Britain, we have a massive pharmaceutical base but less advertising, namely because of the NHS, it seems where the health of the nation is in the hands of the private sector then advertising is much more extensive, for obvious reasons.

As most illnesses are self-evident and a commercial will not diagnose you when the illness isn't, it does beg the question what is the nature of any drug advertising if not to simply encourage consumption?
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Oct 1, 2010 2:10 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
JoLyn
JoLynJoLynClinton, Arkansas USA52 Posts
'I probably sound cynical but pharmaceutical companies are multi-billion dollar corporations and they make a killing off of the consumers buying their products. It certainly appears most advantageous and lucrative for them to hide cures and medicines for such cures so that they can keep skewering the public with very high (sometimes ridiculously high) costs for medication.'
frustrated
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Oct 1, 2010 3:35 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
TrueBlue1986:

it seems where the health of the nation is in the hands of the private sector then advertising is much more extensive, for obvious reasons.


I wouldn't give socialized medicine too much credit.
Here in France the government health agency is in bed with the drug companies. And that's a terrible situation that not only promotes illness instead of health, it virtually prohibits any way of circumventing the corrupt process.

A book published 20 years ago entitled "Shut Up and be Sick" documented how the social health system is now geared toward prolonging illness instead of curing it.

TrueBlue1986:
As most illnesses are self-evident and a commercial will not diagnose you when the illness isn't, it does beg the question what is the nature of any drug advertising if not to simply encourage consumption?


Well of course that's true.

There's another side to all this.
Although the price of medication is high, the actual cost of production is very low. There are tremendous profits, but a lot of of the profits make their way back into the pockets of politicians who in turn take very good care of the drug companies.

And the doctors and hospitals are all part of the same machinery.
It's not about promoting health. It's about commercializing illness.
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Oct 1, 2010 3:41 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
JoLyn: 'I probably sound cynical but pharmaceutical companies are multi-billion dollar corporations and they make a killing off of the consumers buying their products. It certainly appears most advantageous and lucrative for them to hide cures and medicines for such cures so that they can keep skewering the public with very high (sometimes ridiculously high) costs for medication.'


So true.
Read up on Codex Alimentarius, an international trade agreement already in effect that actually outlaws many natural foods and remedies and mandates poisoning the population.
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Oct 1, 2010 5:15 PM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
RayfromUSA: I wouldn't give socialized medicine too much credit.
Here in France the government health agency is in bed with the drug companies. And that's a terrible situation that not only promotes illness instead of health, it virtually prohibits any way of circumventing the corrupt process.

A book published 20 years ago entitled "Shut Up and be Sick" documented how the social health system is now geared toward prolonging illness instead of curing it.
Well of course that's true.

There's another side to all this.
Although the price of medication is high, the actual cost of production is very low. There are tremendous profits, but a lot of of the profits make their way back into the pockets of politicians who in turn take very good care of the drug companies.

And the doctors and hospitals are all part of the same machinery.
It's not about promoting health. It's about commercializing illness.


It's pretty broadscale where nationalised industries are basically a blank cheque for chosen Capitalists, look at defence contracts, nevertheless I still prefer a system that favours the experts and prevents many from becoming their own GP.
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Oct 12, 2010 5:32 AM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
iamwhoiamyousee
iamwhoiamyouseeiamwhoiamyouseeanywhere, Bavaria Germany18 Threads 2 Polls 962 Posts
dblrg: Just wondering


i would say they "cure the symtoms"..a lot of them are in for just the profit..they got to feed their hungry share holders
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Oct 12, 2010 5:34 AM CST Do you believe some pharmecutical companies have a motto of "prevent, don't cure" for profits sake?
Vetri32
Vetri32Vetri32Singapore, Central Singapore Singapore229 Posts
the folks who started the company may be idealistic however when it grows, profits and survival will get the nod over idealism
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