scoutmaster: Ya I suppose your right, I dont drink at all but I have no problem whith someone who does occasionaly. I also work with people who have drank so much they caused brain damage or drove drunk and the resulting head injury put them under my care for the rest of there life. moderation I say and use common sence about it.
Sad part some people can't just have a few, and they have to stay away all together. I drink too much in social situations. I found it's just better for me to stay away. I can have alcohol in my house for years and not touch it. I know what triggers it, stress in social situations.
sasyecats: Sad part some people can't just have a few, and they have to stay away all together. I drink too much in social situations. I found it's just better for me to stay away. I can have alcohol in my house for years and not touch it. I know what triggers it, stress in social situations.
do you mean you stay away from social situations, because of it?
scoutmasterGranite falls, Washington USA1,100 posts
Sunnydaze14: any drug is a problem if it's use cant be kept in moderation
Meth is a drug that only takes once and you are hooked, The result is life altering and destructive 100%. In the work I do I see it over and over. Every one of my clients didnt think they had a problem and thought they could handle it. Every one of my clients think back on there lives and the people they hang around with and many of them are dead and those who are not have major problems as a result of there drug use.
scoutmaster: Meth is a drug that only takes once and you are hooked, The result is life altering and destructive 100%. In the work I do I see it over and over. Every one of my clients didnt think they had a problem and thought they could handle it. Every one of my clients think back on there lives and the people they hang around with and many of them are dead and those who are not have major problems as a result of there drug use.
The first original high can never be reached again, but they will keep trying.
I talked to a woman that got her kid taken away, last I knew she got him back and was doing well...but for how long?
I could go to a bar to chat to friends and drink 7up all night, or just have one alcoholic drink. Allowing alcohol to dictate where you go is allowing it to control you.
Sunnydaze14: I could go to a bar to chat to friends and drink 7up all night, or just have one alcoholic drink. Allowing alcohol to dictate where you go is allowing it to control you.
I have gone in many times and just drank water. It's if I'm stressed it's better that I not go in a bar.
scoutmaster: I dont drink or do drugs. The closest thing I take to drugs is a pepsi once in a while, the cafeen wires me but good.
It does amaze me how many people I have met, men and women who seem to think it is a fault that I dont drink. I would think a lady would like a guy who does not drink as she would know she always has a safe ride home. I still like to go out, dance, listen to music, all the same stuff, I just do it with out chemicles. Why do ladies who drink see that as such a turnoff?
Coming from the standpoint of a "social" imbiber that enjoys tossing back a few cold brews w/ hot wings when watching football and going to the beautiful wineries in my area...I truly enjoy a good drink on occasion.
I dated a recovering alcoholic and when I chose to have a glass of wine or beer around him, it made me feel like I might entice him to fall off the wagon. Make sense?
I don't think drinking or not drinking is a so-called turn-off, it's just a bit uncomfortable and uneasy when you feel like all eyes are on you for having a few drinks..make sense?
All substances can be addictive in the wrong hands and used in the wrong way. No doubt about meth being a killer, but so are mixing alcohol w/ illicit drugs like crack, cocaine, prescription medications, MDMA, GHB, GB, and other club drugs. Self-dosing and mixing alcohol into the equation is definitely a recipe for disaster.
lilmamma71: All substances can be addictive in the wrong hands and used in the wrong way. No doubt about meth being a killer, but so are mixing alcohol w/ illicit drugs like crack, cocaine, prescription medications, MDMA, GHB, GB, and other club drugs. Self-dosing and mixing alcohol into the equation is definitely a recipe for disaster.
scoutmasterGranite falls, Washington USA1,100 posts
lilmamma71: Coming from the standpoint of a "social" imbiber that enjoys tossing back a few cold brews w/ hot wings when watching football and going to the beautiful wineries in my area...I truly enjoy a good drink on occasion.
I dated a recovering alcoholic and when I chose to have a glass of wine or beer around him, it made me feel like I might entice him to fall off the wagon. Make sense?
I don't think drinking or not drinking is a so-called turn-off, it's just a bit uncomfortable and uneasy when you feel like all eyes are on you for having a few drinks..make sense?
I here what you are sayng but if you are in a bar with a group of people and most of them are drinking but a few have only 7up why would you feel self consionus about drinking just because the guy across from you has 7up and why is it his fault you feel self consious and why is he then treated as an outcast.
Sunnydaze14: you know yourself better than anyone else. The atmosphere in a bar can be infectious
What's sad is, when I first tried to quit and tried to continue to hang out with my friends in the bar, they would set drinks in front of me. I only drank on the weekends they drank every day... I think they saw it as if I had a problem then they definitely had a problem. I had to quit hanging out with all of them all together.
lilmamma71: Coming from the standpoint of a "social" imbiber that enjoys tossing back a few cold brews w/ hot wings when watching football and going to the beautiful wineries in my area...I truly enjoy a good drink on occasion.
I dated a recovering alcoholic and when I chose to have a glass of wine or beer around him, it made me feel like I might entice him to fall off the wagon. Make sense?
I don't think drinking or not drinking is a so-called turn-off, it's just a bit uncomfortable and uneasy when you feel like all eyes are on you for having a few drinks..make sense?
you cant cause anyone to do anything we have to live in the world we cannot live in a bubble- alcohol is in the world
if exposure alone is gonna allow someone to drink they have missed the point entirely. and then should drink until they die or get honeswt about the fact that it aint the alcohol thats the problem
alcohol is an inanimate object. it is harmless in some hands and no good in others. if someone quit and they dont get that its them that cant drink and not the alcohol itself well boo hoo for them cuz they are missin the boat
scoutmaster: I here what you are sayng but if you are in a bar with a group of people and most of them are drinking but a few have only 7up why would you feel self consionus about drinking just because the guy across from you has 7up and why is it his fault you feel self consious and why is he then treated as an outcast.
I guess it is still from the fact I dated a person in recovery for alcoholism, and maybe still carry a small part of that with me. If I'm with friends, it's not an issue because one of us drinks water/soda/coffee/tea just in case of worst case scenario of needing to be a DD..take no chances in that dept.
And scout, I never once said it was his fault...that I felt self-conscious, I had a conflict with feeling like if I had a drink, it might tempt him to drink, felt like his sobriety was contingent upon me not drinking in his presence.
as for my last statement, if I'm with a group that of people that do not drink alcohol and I order a drink, it does make me feel the same as you for NOT, does that make sense?
It's not just a human condition. Domestic cattle have starved to death while eating nothing but "Loco-weed". I've seen Blackbirds get drunk on berries during the fall when they've ripened and turned to alcohol.
scoutmasterGranite falls, Washington USA1,100 posts
lilmamma71: I guess it is still from the fact I dated a person in recovery for alcoholism, and maybe still carry a small part of that with me. If I'm with friends, it's not an issue because one of us drinks water/soda/coffee/tea just in case of worst case scenario of needing to be a DD..take no chances in that dept.
And scout, I never once said it was his fault...that I felt self-conscious, I had a conflict with feeling like if I had a drink, it might tempt him to drink, felt like his sobriety was contingent upon me not drinking in his presence.
as for my last statement, if I'm with a group that of people that do not drink alcohol and I order a drink, it does make me feel the same as you for NOT, does that make sense?
that makes sence and I apprichiate your thoughts. I have been out with people who did treat me as if I had a problem because I did not drink though. I still dont understand that.
scoutmaster: that makes sence and I apprichiate your thoughts. I have been out with people who did treat me as if I had a problem because I did not drink though. I still dont understand that.
I think it's because it makes them stop and look at themselves and their drinking...it's their issue, not yours.
scoutmaster: that makes sence and I apprichiate your thoughts. I have been out with people who did treat me as if I had a problem because I did not drink though. I still dont understand that.
well..as silly as this might sound...and it's a simple reason why some people do something, because it makes you feel like one of the gang if when in Rome do as the Romans. You don't drink and when they do, they can't relate to you because they're drinking and enjoying it and you don't need to drink to join the crowd or enjoy yourself...maybe that might be part of it? Don't know, just a thought.
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