Do You Think Background Checks And Drug Test Are Fair For Employment? (49)
i want to apply for the "on top" position...
but i'm flexable...
but i'm flexable...
Depending on the field of one's profession, getting a drug test, yes, I totally agree with and a background check, yes, if that is warranted than what's the big deal?
Now as far as credit report and financial background, the only time this should be an issue is when and if a person is going to be employed in a field involving having access to large sums of money or if the individual would have ACCESS to change those records, such as a position with the credit bureau or a bank. Then I can see it being justified.
Times are tough and jobs are hard to come by..OP, I wish you better luck and hope you find a job soon.
Now as far as credit report and financial background, the only time this should be an issue is when and if a person is going to be employed in a field involving having access to large sums of money or if the individual would have ACCESS to change those records, such as a position with the credit bureau or a bank. Then I can see it being justified.
Times are tough and jobs are hard to come by..OP, I wish you better luck and hope you find a job soon.
Well, Its an oxymoron...If you didnt need money you wouldnt be applying for a job...
I mean just what are they screening for? Fabulously wealthy that are just slumming?? 
hmmm so if someone spikes your drink or someone smokes a joint in the smoky bar room or unknowingly whereever you are.Your out of luck
My job requires someone drug free so I had drug test and stuff and someone with no anger management probs since uve gotta deal with lots of angry ppl LOL and also being healthy to work up to 4500 mts height on minning companies ...
But I wouldnt expect they check on my credit records or bank account or anything as sucjh.... thats not legal here .
Depends on ur job...If u work with lots of money..well they need to make sure they can trust u!
But I wouldnt expect they check on my credit records or bank account or anything as sucjh.... thats not legal here .
Depends on ur job...If u work with lots of money..well they need to make sure they can trust u!
venusenvy: I think when it pertinent to the position applied for its acceptale, but not as a standard practise just because they can. Thats an invasion of privacy.
I like your answer the best. Incidentally, working with controlled substances for so many years put me in the hot seat for random testing all the time. It didn't bother me too much, I admit the idea of it went against the grain, but then, I tried to see it as a two way street. For instance, if a nurse, doctor, or other tech were cheating on my shift, that would put me in the doghouse with them, because that's how it works in hospitals. So..keep everybody honest to help us all keep our jobs. Besides, being on drugs (recreational) and working as a physician, nurse, medical tech is just inappropriate. But I agree its kind of "guilty before proven" because they make you take the blood work or urinalysis before you can get the job, it's like saying, "we don't trust you". Stinks, but if you want to work, you have to behave. Especially nowadays, Its damn hard to get a job, so better buck up. The fellow about the misdemeanor, he should see an attorney or family court judge and see about getting it expunged, if possible. Otherwise, it's going to haunt him.
I do understand a background check as workers want to feel safe at their job but as for the drug test - not important if you can do the job and be straight on the job
Wineman42: I do understand a background check as workers want to feel safe at their job but as for the drug test - not important if you can do the job and be straight on the job
That would be an excellent argument except for the fact that drug use is like tobacco smoke--it doesn't know boundaries. The effects, especially long term, of many recreational drugs, go far beyond the party, or 'at home' use. That's what they're concerned about.Snuggs09: I don't mind them checking if I take drugs or if I have a criminal background. What I do object to is that they can also check your financial records and that's none of their business.
If you cannot handle your own money how can i trust you to handle my business, unless you are a line worker.Zimzane: I just had a background check and was turned down a job offer. I had only one misdemeanor that cost me a job with no felonies. I did pass the drug test. I can understand felonies employers can hold against a potential worker , but a misdemenor?
At times like this where they can choose why not take the best of the best.venusenvy: Well, Its an oxymoron...If you didnt need money you wouldnt be applying for a job...
duh. love you!
my gut reaction was that its messed up to turn someone away
because of a misdemeanor
but there are some factors i would consider if i were the one doing the hiring.
(i'm not asking you these questions by the way)
what was the crime, how long ago was it, and how relevant to the job is it?
what were the circumstances?
because of a misdemeanor
but there are some factors i would consider if i were the one doing the hiring.
(i'm not asking you these questions by the way)
what was the crime, how long ago was it, and how relevant to the job is it?
what were the circumstances?
Malbarido: You didn't tell us how filthy is the hospital.
It wasn't at all. And, that brought to mind something else that tied in with this--several times in my life the physician I worked for and I discussed this sort of thing. He was of the opinion that it was a subconscious rebellion on the practitioner's part--in other words, the dictatorial sterile arena that the nurse was in charge of maintaining to state and federal standards was so stressful she countered it by being a slob at home. Something to think about, anyway...Now, back to the spirit of the thread:Here in Oregon getting a rental home can be very, very difficult. Most (yes, almost all, even) require both a background check and credit check, PLUS, you must prove that you NET three times the rent--in order to qualify for the house or flat, etc... that is listed at 700.00 you must PROVE you take home 2100.00 per month. There are not many rentals much below 600.00 in metro areas, and now almost anywhere in the state, yet many hard working people only take home about 1000. or 1200. so they can't qualify. I say as long as you pay your rent it's none of their business how much you make.
......sorry you missed that one- just figure- 'sour grapes' and go on to the next job possibility........depends on the misdemeanor, i guess- and how it would relate to the job.....did you list it on the application....?.....
woodstock1: ......sorry you missed that one- just figure- 'sour grapes' and go on to the next job possibility........depends on the misdemeanor, i guess- and how it would relate to the job.....did you list it on the application....?.....
Just adding my cents' worth here--many, many jobs require background checks which reveal anything on a public record. My guess is that even non-moving violations (parking the wrong way, blocking fire hydrant, etc...) can probably still be found, if the employer were so inclined. In the medical field, when a background check comes back, it often states, "no inclusive violations", in other words, 'nothing on this record that falls outside of your company's acceptability procedure'. It does not necessarily mean that there have been no violations at all. A word of caution--NOT listing something on a job application is equivalent to falsifying a document, so it's a moot point to try and skirt these kinds of things, because if hired, and found out, you're fired. It's crap, but it happens that way.
Yes, I would check as an employer.
Drugs, drink, criminal convictions, some finances, where one can work with children or vulnerable people.
Some are obvious, of course, but an employer wouldn't take the chance, me thinks, on someone who was in serious financial debt, as they may find the need for money (i.e. hand-in-till situation, etc). People, property and reputations, credibility need protecting and if I was an employer I would do just that. That doesn't mean I wouldn't give someone a chance, some people are trying to rehabilitate and get back on the straight and narrow. If nobody gives them that chance they will get nowhere and may even go back to, or embark upon, a life of crime.
That's why I believe its essential to assess each candidate on their onw merits. They may have something they can bring to the role that most others can't?
Drugs, drink, criminal convictions, some finances, where one can work with children or vulnerable people.
Some are obvious, of course, but an employer wouldn't take the chance, me thinks, on someone who was in serious financial debt, as they may find the need for money (i.e. hand-in-till situation, etc). People, property and reputations, credibility need protecting and if I was an employer I would do just that. That doesn't mean I wouldn't give someone a chance, some people are trying to rehabilitate and get back on the straight and narrow. If nobody gives them that chance they will get nowhere and may even go back to, or embark upon, a life of crime.
That's why I believe its essential to assess each candidate on their onw merits. They may have something they can bring to the role that most others can't?
There are two questions.
I think it depends on the job,
Airline pilot, air traffic controller, doctor, bus driver, anyone who has people's lives in their control? Both background & drug test.
If you will be handling other people's money, yes background check and see where that leads.
If they would legalize marijuana, that would take one drug off of the "illegal list"
I think it depends on the job,
Airline pilot, air traffic controller, doctor, bus driver, anyone who has people's lives in their control? Both background & drug test.
If you will be handling other people's money, yes background check and see where that leads.
If they would legalize marijuana, that would take one drug off of the "illegal list"
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That must be a real terrible time for some people.
Sometimes, people do not pay their credits or bill sor child support because they have not an income, they have not a job.