I just had a background check and was turned down a job offer. I had only one misdemeanor that cost me a job with no felonies. I did pass the drug test. I can understand felonies employers can hold against a potential worker , but a misdemenor?
Zimzane: I just had a background check and was turned down a job offer. I had only one misdemeanor that cost me a job with no felonies. I did pass the drug test. I can understand felonies employers can hold against a potential worker , but a misdemenor?
I don't mind them checking if I take drugs or if I have a criminal background. What I do object to is that they can also check your financial records and that's none of their business.
I think when it pertinent to the position applied for its acceptale, but not as a standard practise just because they can. Thats an invasion of privacy.
Well Im speaking from a business owners point of view. Yes I think they should be done and I do. I am not taking the chance with insurance cost, my other employees and my money and reputaion. Depending on the misdememor charge, yes I would hire the person. If a person was on drugs, Im not giving them a sharp object and allowing them need a childs little ear. They mess up its money out of my pocket. A lot of insurance companies will not cover cost if a business does not follow certain rules and regulations.
I think that it all depends on the type of job you are applying for. Jobs that involve national security interests, or working with children. But I do not support them for "all" jobs. If an prospective employer did it for everyone, our unemployment rate would be a lot higher than it is already!
The Patriot Act allows them to check on you for anything they want to check on. They'll know your driving record, your bank account, your medical records. If they see you have a medical condition that could cost the insurance company they'll deny you the job and say you're not qualified. Years ago they used to have to hire a certain number of people of color. I know because I used to fill out the form. Now that's against the law but they still have ways of knowing everything.
Snuggs09: I don't mind them checking if I take drugs or if I have a criminal background. What I do object to is that they can also check your financial records and that's none of their business.
I agree with the credit check! Thats just crazy stupid to do that. How many people have fell on hard times and went back to school to solve this issue. Then get screwed out of a job.
yabbadabbadontsomewhere, Waikato New Zealand1,692 posts
venusenvy: I think when it pertinent to the position applied for its acceptale, but not as a standard practise just because they can. Thats an invasion of privacy.
Agreed..... If you a pilot, or anything where it is imperative you are a straight person.......It has to be mandatory I guess...
Where peoples lives are at stake.....Would you really expect anything less.....?
Other more ordinary jobs, like most of us, ......No... JOM
Ccincy: As long as it's not for age discrimantion they can check for anything else.They even check your credit score.
Life isn't fair it just is.
That's just it Ccincy. When I fill out an application I don't fill in the area with my birthdate but it doesn't matter because when they do the background check they'll find out exactly how old I am. And believe me, they do deny jobs based on age. Seniors lose more time due to illness.
Snuggs09: The Patriot Act allows them to check on you for anything they want to check on. They'll know your driving record, your bank account, your medical records. If they see you have a medical condition that could cost the insurance company they'll deny you the job and say you're not qualified. Years ago they used to have to hire a certain number of people of color. I know because I used to fill out the form. Now that's against the law but they still have ways of knowing everything.
Actually, per the HIPPA laws of 1996, if you find out that your employer has medical information on you that you did not sign a Release of Information (ROI), that allowed that medical information to be given to your employer, then you can file suit against them. HIPAA fines can be quite costly to employers.
Snuggs09: That's just it Ccincy. When I fill out an application I don't fill in the area with my birthdate but it doesn't matter because when they do the background check they'll find out exactly how old I am. And believe me, they do deny jobs based on age. Seniors lose more time due to illness.
They probably do deny cause of age but you better have the proof to catch them at it too.
Ccincy: Sometimes the unions can cause/be more trouble then they're worth.
I agree but at least if you are a member they have to have a really good reason to fire you. Of course you have to have all the checks to get hired to get in. Then you can pay for job security. Sounds crazy to me.
Snuggs09: I don't mind them checking if I take drugs or if I have a criminal background. What I do object to is that they can also check your financial records and that's none of their business.
I agree... do what you will, but reach for my funds, draw back a nub!
Its never been a problem for me,i think it is a wise thing to do.I used to work for a man who gave a lie detector test also every 6 months to see if you were stealing from him.One time he had to fire 6 people after that test... only question i ever failed on it was my age,i think it was the only time i ever really told the truth about how old i was,so it thought i was lying.
I had to have several background/security checks as well as drug and alcohol tests before i was accepted for employment in my current role (don't ask, i can't give specifics). Its a perfectly sound and reasonable request to make sure of quality of service from prospective personnel. I'm all for it. Especially, like me, when peoples lives are at stake through what i do.
jc320: I had to have several background/security checks as well as drug and alcohol tests before i was accepted for employment in my current role (don't ask, i can't give specifics). Its a perfectly sound and reasonable request to make sure of quality of service from prospective personnel. I'm all for it. Especially, like me, when peoples lives are at stake through what i do.
Well, like I said, if its pertinent to the job. If you applying at the 7/11 its an invasion of privacy...And you should never have to disclose your financial background thats No-ones business
venusenvy: Well, like I said, if its pertinent to the job. If you applying at the 7/11 its an invasion of privacy...And you should never have to disclose your financial background thats No-ones business
Exactly VE! Asking someone to disclose their financial background and then basing a decision to hire or not hire is wrong. And yet, so many employers are doing it today and getting away with it.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
venusenvy: Well, like I said, if its pertinent to the job. If you applying at the 7/11 its an invasion of privacy...And you should never have to disclose your financial background thats No-ones business
I did not know someone would ask you to disclose your financial background for a job's application, how is that?
amahlala: Exactly VE! Asking someone to disclose their financial background and then basing a decision to hire or not hire is wrong. And yet, so many employers are doing it today and getting away with it.
Absolutely wrong! Its a extreme violation of privacy rights
lifeisadream: I did not know someone would ask you to disclose your financial background for a job's application, how is that?
In Mexico I have never hear of it.
It is very common here. Most job applications state information may be used for background checks and credit history. They see it as how dependable and crdible a person is. Its all bull crap. As hard as it is to get insurance or pay for it, a mojor illness can be enough to ruin your credit score. Its not fair!! With the state of the economy right now everywhere so many are down on their luck at some point.
Any more other businesses are doing these checks, the one I have problem with is that my insurance company does an annually credit check on me. Why? I pay my bill and never lapsed. I've been with that compnay for over 8 years now.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
venusenvy: No I havent either Life, They dont do this in Canada either to my knowledge. I dont like whats happening to our American cousins ...This isnt right
devon80: It is very common here. Most job applications state information may be used for background checks and credit history. They see it as how dependable and crdible a person is. Its all bull crap. As hard as it is to get insurance or pay for it, a mojor illness can be enough to ruin your credit score. Its not fair!! With the state of the economy right now everywhere so many are down on their luck at some point.
A credit history is one thing but to diclose your financial background ( which would include how much you made in previous years)is another thing.
In Mexico we do have the credit buro that gives a "paper" that states if you have paid all your credits or not and that is required to get some credit )for a car, house, etc,,,,
And the financial background (the previous 2 years) is required for some big credits or some special subsidies from the goverment.
But none of them are required to get a job, not that I know.
lifeisadream: A credit history is one thing but to diclose your financial background ( which would include how much you made in previous years)is another thing.
In Mexico we do have the credit buro that gives a "paper" that states if you have paid all your credits or not and that is required to get some credit )for a car, house, etc,,,,
And the financial background (the previous 2 years) is required for some big credits or some special subsidies from the goverment.
But none of them are required to get a job, not that I know.
Here though, they use the financial information from your credit report to determine if you are financially sound. Pay your bills on time, no child support owed, no outstanding loans. They use it to judge the applicant on whether or not they are "good" enough to hire.
venusenvy: I think when it pertinent to the position applied for its acceptale, but not as a standard practise just because they can. Thats an invasion of privacy.
Zimzane: I just had a background check and was turned down a job offer. I had only one misdemeanor that cost me a job with no felonies. I did pass the drug test. I can understand felonies employers can hold against a potential worker , but a misdemenor?
It depends on the nature of the misdemeanor and the position. Employers may feel certain employees are higher risks.
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