Would you vote for Donald Trump for President? (460)
Albertaghost: Thirty five percent? Looks like Trump will be the next president according to CS. Obama only got thirty two percent in this thread.
You obviously can't read polls. if 65% voted NO it means he will be president? pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease! I rest my case!
leigh2154: Well for one thing, government makes no profit....government produces nothing....Government is not about management, marketing, and the bottom line....Government does not sell it's services for profit to see how big it can grow...
Government is created "by the people"...
Business can cut jobs, government can't fire the homeless or lay off the elderly......
Government is created "by the people"...
Business can cut jobs, government can't fire the homeless or lay off the elderly......
thank you.
Albertaghost says Trump will make money but we are talking about government here not a business.
leigh2154: Well for one thing, government makes no profit....government produces nothing....
So government is not responsible for growing the economy by providing opportunities and removing obstacles to the growth of private industry?
leigh2154: Government is not about management, marketing, and the bottom line....
It's not? Oh, I see, to you, it's about just spending until there is no money left and you have to borrow off other countries until your money is worthless.
Nope. More like mismanagement and, you need a good manager it seems.
leigh2154: Government does not sell it's services for profit to see how big it can grow...
No but it removes obstacles to profitable trade which grows the economy, helping industry rather than destroying it by providing loans to unions who will strangle the industry.
leigh2154: Government is created "by the people"...
leigh2154: Business can cut jobs, government can't fire the homeless or lay off the elderly......
And when mismanaged, government is broke and has to 'lay them off' sooner or later. Hence, the need for a business savvy individual rather than a goon who does nothing but dole out borrowed money until there is nothing left to even start again.
leigh2154: But what I am saying Al is Obama was never deemed qualified by me....I am only speaking for myself when I say Trump would make a terrible president...Obama has nothing to do with that feeling..
thank you.
geneva60: You obviously can't read polls. if 65% voted NO it means he will be president? pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease! I rest my case!
"(UNITED STATES ONLY) Do you think that Obama will get re-elected?"
32% yes
In this thread, " Would you vote for Donald Trump for President?"
35% yes
I rest my case.
geneva60: thank you.
Albertaghost says Trump will make money but we are talking about government here not a business.
Albertaghost says Trump will make money but we are talking about government here not a business.
No I did not say he will make money but rather, as a business savvy individual he will know how to waste it less and apply it more judiciously and, in the long run, all Americans will make more.
Albertaghost: "(UNITED STATES ONLY) Do you think that Obama will get re-elected?"
32% yes
In this thread, " Would you vote for Donald Trump for President?"
35% yes
I rest my case.
32% yes
In this thread, " Would you vote for Donald Trump for President?"
35% yes
I rest my case.
and 65% voted NO. which is bigger 35 or 65?
talk about the whole results not what YOU selected or what YOU want
35 % only! how about 100%? and what happened to the rest?
no point continuing debating with you.
Albertaghost: So government is not responsible for growing the economy by providing opportunities and removing obstacles to the growth of private industry?
It's not? Oh, I see, to you, it's about just spending until there is no money left and you have to borrow off other countries until your money is worthless.
Nope. More like mismanagement and, you need a good manager it seems.
No but it removes obstacles to profitable trade which grows the economy, helping industry rather than destroying it by providing loans to unions who will strangle the industry.
And when mismanaged, government is broke and has to 'lay them off' sooner or later. Hence, the need for a business savvy individual rather than a goon who does nothing but dole out borrowed money until there is nothing left to even start again.
It's not? Oh, I see, to you, it's about just spending until there is no money left and you have to borrow off other countries until your money is worthless.
Nope. More like mismanagement and, you need a good manager it seems.
No but it removes obstacles to profitable trade which grows the economy, helping industry rather than destroying it by providing loans to unions who will strangle the industry.
And when mismanaged, government is broke and has to 'lay them off' sooner or later. Hence, the need for a business savvy individual rather than a goon who does nothing but dole out borrowed money until there is nothing left to even start again.
Like em or not, at least I answered your question...I did not say "growing" the economy, I said it is not about "growing" government....don't twist my words Al....You know me better than that, government is not "just" about spending...don't be condescending.......
Albertaghost: No I did not say he will make money but rather, as a business savvy individual he will know how to waste it less and apply it more judiciously and, in the long run, all Americans will make more.
yes you said he will make money compared to Obama, go back and read your own posts
geneva60: and 65% voted NO. which is bigger 35 or 65?
talk about the whole results not what YOU selected or what YOU want
35 % only! how about 100%? and what happened to the rest?
no point continuing debating with you.
talk about the whole results not what YOU selected or what YOU want
35 % only! how about 100%? and what happened to the rest?
no point continuing debating with you.
(UNITED STATES ONLY) Do you think that Obama will get re-elected?
68% no
32% yes
So, sixty eight percent feel Obama will not be reelected and thirty two believe that yes, he will.
On the other hand, in this thread, thirty five percent will vote for trump sixty five will not.
No matter which way you read it, three percent more people believe that Trump will win and, have stated they will vote that way.
And yes, I agree, until you can read numbers right in front of you there is no point in continuing this discussion.
geneva60: yes you said he will make money compared to Obama, go back and read your own posts
I said he knew how to make money. That requires proper allocation of strategic assets, proper management, supervision, budget restraint, familiarity with finance and most of all - knowing how to deal with people.
Here, what I said; ""I would say you need somebody who knows about making money rather than a community organizer who only knows how to spend it. ""
Albertaghost: (UNITED STATES ONLY) Do you think that Obama will get re-elected?
68% no
32% yes
So, sixty eight percent feel Obama will not be reelected and thirty two believe that yes, he will.
On the other hand, in this thread, thirty five percent will vote for trump sixty five will not.
No matter which way you read it, three percent more people believe that Trump will win and, have stated they will vote that way.
And yes, I agree, until you can read numbers right in front of you there is no point in continuing this discussion.
68% no
32% yes
So, sixty eight percent feel Obama will not be reelected and thirty two believe that yes, he will.
On the other hand, in this thread, thirty five percent will vote for trump sixty five will not.
No matter which way you read it, three percent more people believe that Trump will win and, have stated they will vote that way.
And yes, I agree, until you can read numbers right in front of you there is no point in continuing this discussion.
This is about Donald Trump NOT Barack Obama.
The title of the thread is "would you vote for Donald Trump for president?"
no where did the OP mention Obama
leigh2154: Like em or not, at least I answered your question...I did not say "growing" the economy, I said it is not about "growing" government....don't twist my words Al....You know me better than that, government is not "just" about spending...don't be condescending.......
I didn't twist your words. You said;
""Well for one thing, government makes no profit....government produces nothing....""\
And I said;
""So government is not responsible for growing the economy by providing opportunities and removing obstacles to the growth of private industry?""
Government makes no profit however, a business savvy government creates opportunity and removes obstacles so that the economy can grow.
Albertaghost: I said he knew how to make money. That requires proper allocation of strategic assets, proper management, supervision, budget restraint, familiarity with finance and most of all - knowing how to deal with people.
Here, what I said; ""I would say you need somebody who knows about making money rather than a community organizer who only knows how to spend it. ""
Here, what I said; ""I would say you need somebody who knows about making money rather than a community organizer who only knows how to spend it. ""
Again this thread is about Donald Trump for president NOT Barack Obama.
I would rather have a discussion with the OP, not a Canadian who lives in Alberta.
geneva60: This is about Donald Trump NOT Barack Obama.
The title of the thread is "would you vote for Donald Trump for president?"
no where did the OP mention Obama
The title of the thread is "would you vote for Donald Trump for president?"
no where did the OP mention Obama
It is a given that Obama will be running for president and subsequently, against Trump if those cards fall into place.
Hence, he has much to do with this thread.
Albertaghost: It is a given that Obama will be running for president and subsequently, against Trump if those cards fall into place.
Hence, he has much to do with this thread.
Hence, he has much to do with this thread.
Other than China and the 25% tax on trade and OPEC, what are some other reason you think Trump would be a good choice Al?
leigh2154: Other than China and the 25% tax on trade and OPEC, what are some other reason you think Trump would be a good choice Al?
Good choice? Hate to be cagey but i would say more like a 'viable candidate with some different ideas' that should be looked at a bit more.
He wants to change the tax code to force companies that pay zero tax to begin to ante up and reduce others.
The Iraqi strategy is another one that would tie in with the OPEC and China strategy. Recouping everything expended in Iraq to date as well as placing a leash on OPEC. China, needing oil to move forward would be at their mercy, not the US. And, as part and parcel of trade with China, oil can be used as leverage. Since the US cannot use the oil they gain from this strategy they would be free to sell, give away or use as bribes to any country they wished for whatever reward they deemed appropriate as part of their foreign policy.
A double edged sword as the loser would always be OPEC. If they don't clamp down on their terrorists, the US floods the market with Iraqi oil. If they behave, the US cuts back.
Nice little thing to have in your back pocket and, keeps Iran out of the picture for a bit longer.
Anyhow, those are bold strategies and, just things he threw out as it is unknown if they would work or not or, even if he is serious as they only came out in remarks he gave in an interview.
Clarifying the above;
""The Iraqi strategy is another one that would tie in with the OPEC and China strategy. Recouping everything expended in Iraq to date as well as placing a leash on OPEC. China, needing oil to move forward would be at their mercy, not the US. And, as part and parcel of trade with China, oil can be used as leverage. Since the US cannot use the all theoil they gain from this strategy they would be free to sell, give away or use as bribes to any country they wished for whatever reward they deemed appropriate as part of their foreign policy. As well, a flood of cheap oil in the US would be a boon for industry there.""
""The Iraqi strategy is another one that would tie in with the OPEC and China strategy. Recouping everything expended in Iraq to date as well as placing a leash on OPEC. China, needing oil to move forward would be at their mercy, not the US. And, as part and parcel of trade with China, oil can be used as leverage. Since the US cannot use the all theoil they gain from this strategy they would be free to sell, give away or use as bribes to any country they wished for whatever reward they deemed appropriate as part of their foreign policy. As well, a flood of cheap oil in the US would be a boon for industry there.""
I'm thinking about diving back in to this lovefest.
Albertaghost: Good choice? Hate to be cagey but i would say more like a 'viable candidate with some different ideas' that should be looked at a bit more.
He wants to change the tax code to force companies that pay zero tax to begin to ante up and reduce others.
The Iraqi strategy is another one that would tie in with the OPEC and China strategy. Recouping everything expended in Iraq to date as well as placing a leash on OPEC. China, needing oil to move forward would be at their mercy, not the US. And, as part and parcel of trade with China, oil can be used as leverage. Since the US cannot use the oil they gain from this strategy they would be free to sell, give away or use as bribes to any country they wished for whatever reward they deemed appropriate as part of their foreign policy.
A double edged sword as the loser would always be OPEC. If they don't clamp down on their terrorists, the US floods the market with Iraqi oil. If they behave, the US cuts back.
Nice little thing to have in your back pocket and, keeps Iran out of the picture for a bit longer.
Anyhow, those are bold strategies and, just things he threw out as it is unknown if they would work or not or, even if he is serious as they only came out in remarks he gave in an interview.
He wants to change the tax code to force companies that pay zero tax to begin to ante up and reduce others.
The Iraqi strategy is another one that would tie in with the OPEC and China strategy. Recouping everything expended in Iraq to date as well as placing a leash on OPEC. China, needing oil to move forward would be at their mercy, not the US. And, as part and parcel of trade with China, oil can be used as leverage. Since the US cannot use the oil they gain from this strategy they would be free to sell, give away or use as bribes to any country they wished for whatever reward they deemed appropriate as part of their foreign policy.
A double edged sword as the loser would always be OPEC. If they don't clamp down on their terrorists, the US floods the market with Iraqi oil. If they behave, the US cuts back.
Nice little thing to have in your back pocket and, keeps Iran out of the picture for a bit longer.
Anyhow, those are bold strategies and, just things he threw out as it is unknown if they would work or not or, even if he is serious as they only came out in remarks he gave in an interview.
Hi Albert, the question was "other" than China and OPEC why do you like Trump...and to be cagey as a "viable candidate"......you still have not answered......
leigh2154: Hi Albert, the question was "other" than China and OPEC why do you like Trump...and to be cagey as a "viable candidate"......you still have not answered......
Good Morning! 
leigh2154: Hi Albert, the question was "other" than China and OPEC why do you like Trump...and to be cagey as a "viable candidate"......you still have not answered......
Thought I explained about Iran, Europe, Iraq, domestic America and how it all ties in with the world.
You on the other hand are concerned with his hair do.
Let me know which of my posts I should re quote.
Conrad73: Good Morning!
Good morning Con!!...Boy, my stomach is killing me this morning! I think I had too much tootitnbootit yesterday!!!
Albertaghost: Thought I explained about Iran, Europe, Iraq, domestic America and how it all ties in with the world.
You on the other hand are concerned with his hair do.
Let me know which of my posts I should re quote.
You on the other hand are concerned with his hair do.
Let me know which of my posts I should re quote.
WHAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT TRUMP.......This is in addition to his hair, his marriage record, his adulterous relationship, and his total lack of experience.....
If Trump fails to win the GOP, he has indicated he will run as an Independent...In an earlier interview, when asked this question, his response was..."I am a Republican, I will run as a Republican"....Already changing his mind, his prerogative????, he now says the opposite...
How would this affect the Republican's chances of winning in 2012?.....NEGATIVELY !!!...
Trump said it does not concern him that running as an Independent would probably enable Obama to be re-elected by taking votes away from whoever is the Republican candidate...He made it clear that he believes an Independent can win in todays political climate...
Trump on Libya...I would have only intervened if "we take the oil"........
Trump on Iraq..."I would take the oil"...Meaning he would keep our troops in Iraq and prevent Iran from taking over Iraq and it's oil fields.....at any cost.....
By his own admission, Trump knows running as an Independent could hurt the GOP chances in 2012..
He doesn't care......a dangerous, overbearing loudmouth man who is only "ego" driven.....
leigh2154: Good morning Con!!...Boy, my stomach is killing me this morning! I think I had too much tootitnbootit yesterday!!!
That THING can give anyone a Bellyache! That poor THING seems to be confused bad about its Gender!
leigh2154: Already changing his mind, his prerogative????, he now says the opposite...
Seems that he is in tune with Obama and Kerry.
leigh2154:
How would this affect the Republican's chances of winning in 2012?.....NEGATIVELY !!!...
How would this affect the Republican's chances of winning in 2012?.....NEGATIVELY !!!...
Dems gravitate to this sort though so he should pick up a lot of v9otes.
leigh2154:
Trump said it does not concern him that running as an Independent would probably enable Obama to be re-elected by taking votes away from whoever is the Republican candidate...He made it clear that he believes an Independent can win in todays political climate...
Trump said it does not concern him that running as an Independent would probably enable Obama to be re-elected by taking votes away from whoever is the Republican candidate...He made it clear that he believes an Independent can win in todays political climate...
So we can now narrow you down to be a party line voter above all else. Interesting.
leigh2154: Trump on Libya...I would have only intervened if "we take the oil"........
And why did Obama intervene, then not intervene?
Trump on Iraq..."I would take the oil"...Meaning he would keep our troops in Iraq and prevent Iran from taking over Iraq and it's oil fields.....at any cost.....
And why did Obama intervene, then not intervene?
Trump on Iraq..."I would take the oil"...Meaning he would keep our troops in Iraq and prevent Iran from taking over Iraq and it's oil fields.....at any cost.....
And take all the oil to give to Americans. You forgot that part. Why is that I wonder.
leigh2154: By his own admission, Trump knows running as an Independent could hurt the GOP chances in 2012..
He is his own man. You as a liberal or a pretend Republican might think that this is threatening but, some people find that thinking outside the box brings positive results.
I encourage you to vote as per your party line.
leigh2154: He doesn't care......a dangerous, overbearing loudmouth man who is only "ego" driven.....
Your opinion based on your feelings.
My mood ring gives the right color so you, according to it are wrong.
Albertaghost: Seems that he is in tune with Obama and Kerry.
Dems gravitate to this sort though so he should pick up a lot of v9otes.
So we can now narrow you down to be a party line voter above all else. Interesting.
And take all the oil to give to Americans. You forgot that part. Why is that I wonder.
He is his own man. You as a liberal or a pretend Republican might think that this is threatening but, some people find that thinking outside the box brings positive results.
I encourage you to vote as per your party line.
Your opinion based on your feelings.
My mood ring gives the right color so you, according to it are wrong.
Dems gravitate to this sort though so he should pick up a lot of v9otes.
So we can now narrow you down to be a party line voter above all else. Interesting.
And take all the oil to give to Americans. You forgot that part. Why is that I wonder.
He is his own man. You as a liberal or a pretend Republican might think that this is threatening but, some people find that thinking outside the box brings positive results.
I encourage you to vote as per your party line.
Your opinion based on your feelings.
My mood ring gives the right color so you, according to it are wrong.
The best you can do is "label" me....and, hate to tell you this Al, but you are totally wrong ...way out in "left" field as they say...how did you get to know me so well?...Where was I when this intimate knowledge you seem to think you have about me was formulating in your mind?
leigh2154: The best you can do is "label" me....and, hate to tell you this Al, but you are totally wrong ...way out in "left" field as they say...how did you get to know me so well?...Where was I when this intimate knowledge you seem to think you have about me was formulating in your mind?
I ask for facts and you provide none. Facts are immune to gender.
ttom500: With a baseball bat?
Not me...I'm the new and improved Freddy. I'll use a NERF bat.
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Certainly he entered his fathers business but that was in '68 and he was no billionaire then but is now.
But what I am saying Al is Obama was never deemed qualified by me....I am only speaking for myself when I say Trump would make a terrible president...Obama has nothing to do with that feeling..