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May 18, 2008 8:02 AM CSTis the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
uk_man_31
uk_man_31uk_man_31norwich, Norfolk, England, UK52 Threads 6 Polls 821 Posts

is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?(Vote Below)

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Embryos, as well as fetal tissues, have been used for medical research since its beginning. Historically these tissues were obtained through therapeutic, and sometimes spontaneous, abortions. Now, however, with the dawn of artificial conception, embryos are created in the lab and can be used in their very early stages of development for research.

In recent years, a considerable amount of controversy has surrounded the use of human embryos for research now that the possibility of creating embryos solely for the purpose of research has become a reality. This controversy has been most apparent in the United Kingdom and the United States, and has been related to the use of embryonic stem cells for research. For the purposes of this paper, "embryo" refers to those manufactured in the lab and only in their very early stage of development, less than 14 days.

Stem cells are undifferentiated cells that theoretically have the potential to become any type of cell (pluripotent), for example, nerve cell, blood cell, liver cell. Stem cells removed from embryos are known to be pluripotent whereas stem cells from adults have been considered to only have the potential to become certain cell types. However, recent advances have suggested that adult stem cells may also be successfully "reprogrammed" to grow into any tissue type. The allure of stem cell research is the potential to manipulate these cells to grow into any transplantable tissue or organ.
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May 18, 2008 8:02 AM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
uk_man_31
uk_man_31uk_man_31norwich, Norfolk, England UK52 Threads 6 Polls 821 Posts
Embryos, as well as fetal tissues, have been used for medical research since its beginning. Historically these tissues were obtained through therapeutic, and sometimes spontaneous, abortions. Now, however, with the dawn of artificial conception, embryos are created in the lab and can be used in their very early stages of development for research.

In recent years, a considerable amount of controversy has surrounded the use of human embryos for research now that the possibility of creating embryos solely for the purpose of research has become a reality. This controversy has been most apparent in the United Kingdom and the United States, and has been related to the use of embryonic stem cells for research. For the purposes of this paper, "embryo" refers to those manufactured in the lab and only in their very early stage of development, less than 14 days.

Stem cells are undifferentiated cells that theoretically have the potential to become any type of cell (pluripotent), for example, nerve cell, blood cell, liver cell. Stem cells removed from embryos are known to be pluripotent whereas stem cells from adults have been considered to only have the potential to become certain cell types. However, recent advances have suggested that adult stem cells may also be successfully "reprogrammed" to grow into any tissue type. The allure of stem cell research is the potential to manipulate these cells to grow into any transplantable tissue or organ.
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May 18, 2008 8:07 AM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
In a word....Yes
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May 18, 2008 11:35 AM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
uk_man_31: Embryos, as well as fetal tissues, have been used for medical research since its beginning. Historically these tissues were obtained through therapeutic, and sometimes spontaneous, abortions. Now, however, with the dawn of artificial conception, embryos are created in the lab and can be used in their very early stages of development for research.

In recent years, a considerable amount of controversy has surrounded the use of human embryos for research now that the possibility of creating embryos solely for the purpose of research has become a reality. This controversy has been most apparent in the United Kingdom and the United States, and has been related to the use of embryonic stem cells for research. For the purposes of this paper, "embryo" refers to those manufactured in the lab and only in their very early stage of development, less than 14 days.

Stem cells are undifferentiated cells that theoretically have the potential to become any type of cell (pluripotent), for example, nerve cell, blood cell, liver cell. Stem cells removed from embryos are known to be pluripotent whereas stem cells from adults have been considered to only have the potential to become certain cell types. However, recent advances have suggested that adult stem cells may also be successfully "reprogrammed" to grow into any tissue type. The allure of stem cell research is the potential to manipulate these cells to grow into any transplantable tissue or organ.


I think your poll should have another option, I don't know--don't have enough information....This is a difficult question, creating embryos in order to use them for research. This is another instance of technology outdistancing our ability as a society to cope with the ethical questons involved.
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May 18, 2008 12:07 PM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
Is it ethical to incinerate an embryo that resulted from a miscarriage when the stem cells it contains can be used to possibly save a life or cure a desease? Cause that is what they do with miscarriage material. This is a subject that has always baffled me. Pro-life people would rather destroy life than preserve it.

I think if I'm ever convicted of a capital crime, the first thing I'm gonna do is have my name changed to Mr Embryo because the right to lifers will rallye to me and raise such a stink that my death sentence will be commuted to life.rolling on the floor laughing

This question reminds me of something I saw on TV many years ago.
At a time when African elephants were being desimated for their ivory, the "Authorities" decided to make a bold statement by piling up all the ivory tusks they had siezed from years of anti poaching efforts and set it ablaze. It was a pile as big as a 2 story house. I was stunned to see all that wealth go up in smoke. To this day I can't understand the rationale' of destroying something which could have been sold on the open market. The proceeds of which could have been used to hire more wildlife rangers and equipment (which they sorely needed) and the sale of such a vast amount of ivory would have seriously hurt the street price of ivory making it not worth the trouble of poaching elephants for it. Burning all that ivory meant at least 1000 elephants died for nothing. What a legacy.
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May 18, 2008 12:12 PM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
ooby_dooby: Is it ethical to incinerate an embryo that resulted from a miscarriage when the stem cells it contains can be used to possibly save a life or cure a desease? Cause that is what they do with miscarriage material. This is a subject that has always baffled me. Pro-life people would rather destroy life than preserve it.
I think if I'm ever convicted of a capital crime, the first thing I'm gonna do is have my name changed to Mr Embryo because the right to lifers will rallye to me and raise such a stink that my death sentence will be commuted to life.

This question reminds me of something I saw on TV many years ago.
At a time when African elephants were being desimated for their ivory, the "Authorities" decided to make a bold statement by piling up all the ivory tusks they had siezed from years of anti poaching efforts and set it ablaze. It was a pile as big as a 2 story house. I was stunned to see all that wealth go up in smoke. To this day I can't understand the rationale' of destroying something which could have been sold on the open market. The proceeds of which could have been used to hire more wildlife rangers and equipment (which they sorely needed) and the sale of such a vast amount of ivory would have seriously hurt the street price of ivory making it not worth the trouble of poaching elephants for it. Burning all that ivory meant at least 1000 elephants died for nothing. What a legacy.


I haven't been much exposed to this issue, so I'm trying to understand and learn. Isn't the question about creating embryos for research.....is that different or the same as destroying miscarried embryos?

I love elephants, they didn't die for nothing in the scenario you describe, the burning of the ivory was done for a principle and to make a point--to hopefully end the slaughter---so I can see the point of it--don't say I agree with it or cheer it on....either way, the death of the elephants was pointless and that's what matters.
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May 18, 2008 12:22 PM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
To kill to live is wrong on innocent. Lets kill 10 year olds an give their hearts to old people after all they are only ten years old.

They will and are finding ways to make stems cells from tissues such as skin cells.
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May 18, 2008 1:16 PM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
ontarioman
ontariomanontariomanKawartha lakes, Canada13 Threads 561 Posts
My opinion....Research into stem cells is a great un-folding science!

And they have found other ways to experiment with stem cells other than using Embrionic cells.

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May 18, 2008 3:08 PM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
uk_man_31
uk_man_31uk_man_31norwich, Norfolk, England UK52 Threads 6 Polls 821 Posts
science is part of evolution
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May 18, 2008 3:23 PM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
friendsfirst
friendsfirstfriendsfirstBurbank, Illinois USA105 Threads 1 Polls 5,965 Posts
yes

yes
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May 18, 2008 3:25 PM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
sxc666
sxc666sxc666unknown, Queensland Australia51 Threads 16,853 Posts
My opinion to date would have to be yes. However I would need to look into it and reasearch it a bit more. I have touched on this but not really gone in depth about the subject.
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May 18, 2008 5:18 PM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
No sane person would ever suggest 10 year olds should be killed to take their hearts and give them to old people. That is nonsense.

Portiea: I haven't been much exposed to this issue, so I'm trying to understand and learn. Isn't the question about creating embryos for research.....is that different or the same as destroying miscarried embryos?


For purposes of this discussion it must be noted that there are 2 sources of embryonic stem cells.
"spare embryos and research embryos"

"Another possible distinction between research on spare embryos and research
embryos is a double-effect argument.230 The double-effect argument posits that an action that is wrong if chosen for its own sake may be acceptable if it occurs as a by-product of some other acceptable act.231 Under this view, creating embryos solely for research is not morally acceptable, but when embryos are created for the acceptable purpose of procreation and then are not used for that purpose, using them in research rather than discarding them is acceptable.232 The plausibility of the double-effect argument depends on whether it is true that creating embryos solely for research is unacceptable.

One strong argument for the idea that creating research embryos does not show commensurate respect for the embryo as a symbol of life is that the intent to create a child makes the creation of an embryo a moral act.233 Any other intent would be unacceptable. "To create embryos solely for research . . . seems morally wrong because it seems to cheapen the act of procreation...."234 This intent argument distinguishes between spare embryos and research embryos by noting that when two people seek to create embryos in an effort to procreate, they intend for at least one of the embryos to become a child, but with research embryos, there is no intent that any embryo created will ever become a child."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3805/is_200201/ai_n9083773/pg_19

My position is that it is un ethical or immoral to destroy "spare embryos" that will never become a person but to utilize these embryos in research for finding cures for diseases instead of dumping them into the medical waste bin to be incinerated.


Portiea: I love elephants, they didn't die for nothing in the scenario you describe, the burning of the ivory was done for a principle and to make a point--to hopefully end the slaughter---so I can see the point of it--don't say I agree with it or cheer it on....either way, the death of the elephants was pointless and that's what matters.


My dear I'm afraid they DID die for nothing if they were killed illegally, their tusks chopped out, their flesh left to rot and their tusks subsequently burned to make a point. I wonder if it had the effect they were seeking. I can't help but think it was a very dumb thing to do cause once you set a match to something you no longer have it to use. You can't get it back. I love elephants and all wildlife too.
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May 19, 2008 3:47 PM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
kkitty
kkittykkittyMinnesota, USA17 Threads 4 Polls 1,055 Posts
I think that no matter how much technology we have and how many cures we find, that nature will have a way to balance itself and no one knows what nature has in store
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May 19, 2008 3:59 PM CST is the research into human embryos and stem cells as possible miricle cures ethical?
Portiea: I haven't been much exposed to this issue, so I'm trying to understand and learn. Isn't the question about creating embryos for research.....is that different or the same as destroying miscarried embryos?

I love elephants, they didn't die for nothing in the scenario you describe, the burning of the ivory was done for a principle and to make a point--to hopefully end the slaughter---so I can see the point of it--don't say I agree with it or cheer it on....either way, the death of the elephants was pointless and that's what matters.
And now SA talks about the need of Culling Elephants!

Seems there are other ways to get Stemcells without having to use Embryos.
Would make the Ethics Question disappear and Science might finally be able to do what they do best,namely--Scienceconversing
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