RE: I think it's only common courtesy for people to reply to an email, even if they are not interested.

Er, friends then? grin handshake

RE: I think it's only common courtesy for people to reply to an email, even if they are not interested.

Wasn't he in the habit of chopping off people's heads who refused him that? Er..I guess that makes you an even bigger monster, scarier still! laugh

RE: I think it's only common courtesy for people to reply to an email, even if they are not interested.

Hey lady I wasn't attacking you in my previous post. I did in fact say that you have clearly put what you are and are not lookin for in your profile correct?

confused

RE: I think it's only common courtesy for people to reply to an email, even if they are not interested.

Genghis Khan scamming you via internet, scary! wow

rolling on the floor laughing

RE: I think it's only common courtesy for people to reply to an email, even if they are not interested.

The difference between your profile and that of many women here, is that yours is well written and you actually state a good range of stuff you're looking/not looking for. I've read your profile and actually thought it's one of the best ones here, both as a read, and the blunt way you write things (same goes for your forum posts even if I don't always agree with your views). wine

I see a lot of profiles of women in my area who are of the "I don't really like writing about myself here, contact me and we'll talk/just looking for a good man who is thoughtful etc" type of profiles which really doesn't weed out a lot of possibilities.

Well, when you do actually write to the woman who are 'just looking for a good man' and 'asking to contact them', they just don't reply. If that isn't impoliteness I don't know what else is? confused

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Hehe, thanks for the compliments again. grin

I'm afraid I'd make a bad politician, I'm too much of an autocrat in character, and besides I can't bring myself to smile at my enemies, lol.

By the way I sent you an email to say thanks for your previous post before this, but I got the message that my mail might be blocked. Just to let you know conversing

RE: books - have you read anything interesting ..

Well it is just a theory and I can't say that I subscribe to it 100% (in the sense that I don't believe in it till we have better proof).

The fact that meteorites from outer space containg 'alien' germs have been found does lend credence to the belief, however remote, that such a possibility exists.

Incidentally the Gor novels I'm currently reading does follow that storyline, an advanced alien race abducting humans from earth, and putting them on another planet where they are made to live in a Conan style barbarian society, for reasons as yet unexplained (at least as far as I've read, there's 27 novels, still halfway throught the 2nd one!)

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

It works differently in catholic countries, you get baptized at one month old, receive first communion at about 6-7, and then the 'holy' anointment at 9-10.

I myself was baptized at one month old, and possibly still count as one of the 'official' catholics in the world even though I haven't been inside a church (other than for sight seeing/art appreciation) in years.

Anyway, back to the original point of the post, the catholic church (which is still the biggest christian organization in the world) had that silly view for millenia, and only a few years ago changed its stance. Now they 'officially' teach that limbo never really existed and that there is no other place where the soul goes after death apart from heaven or hell.

Methinks they'll have to re-write Dante's Divine Comedy, as in that epic poem which describes a voyage throuh hell, limbo and heaven, Dante clearly records the souls of unbaptized infants awaiting judgement. This was written back in the church's heyday during the late Middle Ages, and had church approval.

Oh by the way, in the poem Dante is accompanied by Virgil, a Roman poet who lived in the 1st Century AD. Virgil was condemned to an eternity in hell. His crime? He was an un-christian Pagan! So as far as the church is concerned, it's not if you're a good or bad person that will qualify you for heaven, but whether you mumble your prayers or not.

Yet one more case of the church contradicting itself in modern times in an effort to recover the ever increasing number of people who no longer believe in such drivel.

penman, I can't hear your counter arguments by the way laugh

RE: books - have you read anything interesting ..

@Tulefel:

Oh by the way, just remembered another good alternate history book by Rober Harris, it's called 'Fatherland'.

The premise of the story is that Germany had won WW2 and the 3rd Reich was still going on in the 60's. There's still a Cold War, but instead of the USSR, the USA is facing Germany in it.

The main character is an ex-U Boat commander turned police detective who has to investigate a bizarre series of murders a few days before an important summit between American and German representatives in Berlin which leads to a shocking conclusion.

It's not a 'war' novel, more of a police/espionage thriller, and gives a chilling view of what might have happened had the Allies not won the war.

The book was also made into a movie starring Rutger Hauer.

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Hey, I already answered that for you pal, I'm not some superhero out of marvel comics out to save the world, I'm justa normal guy living his life.

Besides, if your demigod jesus couldn't do it with his superpowers, what chance have I got?

Speaking of which, since you're the one who should be walking in jesus' steps spreading love, compassion and all that jabber, shouldn't you be doing it instead of expecting it of me? I'm part of the evil gang in your eyes after all roll eyes

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Oh gosh bjk you're right, the man is 48 yet he looks as old as abraham! wow

If I was in his shoes I'd sue god for the unfair aging process he's undergone! laugh

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

I'll say something for penman, if viewed from a non-serious tone, his posts are the most hilariously funny bits of rubbish I've read on the whole thread. He would give that conspiracy theory freak who posts in the politics forum a run for his money (rayfromusa)laugh

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Who the heck amongst your debate opponents has said he/she has haid harsh childhoods here? We simply pointed out that we've had religion shoved down our throats and unlike the herd (btw, the bible gets this right at least, sheperd fits jesus rightly, the 'flock' is unthinking after all), we chose to reason with our minds instead of accepting superstitious beliefs.



Oh my, we're getting melodramatic here. Shall I put the soundtrack of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, and meet all of us at high noon in some Irish horse farm? rolling on the floor laughing

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Mate, you keep attacking us that we spout venom, when the closest thing to a king cobra on this thread has been you.

You truly fit the stereotype of the hyopcrite, fantical christian!

Any inquisitors in your family tree? I'd be ready to bet you had some heretic burners in your bloodline doh

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Hey you'd be tied up next to me mate! cheers

Would the British bookies be ready to take odds that the counter arguments will be silly quotes from that fairy tale book aka bible? laugh

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Thanks for the compliment blushing

I've had religion stuffed down my throat from an early age too. Here in Malta it is still 'normal' to have the catholic religion taught in school, mumbling prayers, attending mass every first friday of the month, and young children are sent for addition religious brainwash...er...classes organized by a society called MUSEUM in the evenings; 3-4 times a week.

You'll still get shocked views by people who should know better if you eat meat on good friday, or else fail to observe their other mumbo jumbo.

One of my earlier memories at the MUSEUM class when I was around 5 years old was asking the religious teacher that the bible had got it wrong as it didn't mention dinosaurs anywhere. I loved those big lizards as a kid (er, I still like them now, maybe I still have to grow up! laugh ).

For my pains, the venerable religious teacher had no better counter argument than to send me out of the class for 'showing disrespect to god' confused





I do believe in a set of morals, most of which in today's world would be seen as old fashioned and definitely not politically correct. As a martial arts practioner I'm very fascinated by the code of Bushido (the code of ethics of the ancient Samurai warriors), and also the moral codes that guided Ancient Greece and Republican Rome.

They're mainly having a sense of honour, standing up for one's beliefs, ready to defend one's family and friends, be truthful (as much as the situation allows), always speaking my mind (which doesn't make me popular with my bosses at work either, lol); being brave, showing self respect by keeping one's body as healthy and strong as possible.

My grandpa was in the British Army during WW2 as well, and as I hero worshipped him as a kid, some of his military mentality also rubbed off as regards self discipline and being ready to help one's mates.

Maybe I'm a cynic romantic if such a term exists .laugh

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

No what is actually VERY SAD is that in the 21st century people are still blinded by superstitions such as yourself.

With people of your mentality, we'd still believe the world to be flat, to have been created in 7 days, and that we were all descended from adam and eve.

What is even more sad is that christians like you believe that just because a jewish carpenter got nailed to a piece of wood over 2000 years ago, this somehow has 'saved' the world. Care to explain how said destruction of the world was averted by this event?

I've yet to meet a christian who gives a plausible explanation to that, apart from brain washed blabber about having 'faith'.

Several other people were executed in this manner during the Roman Empire, had your jesus been executed today what would your symbol and plan of salvation have been, the electric chair? doh

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Isn't that typical of the religious fanatics worldwide mate? He never came up with a decent argument, had facts slapped in his face disproving his 'faith', and instead of at least conceding politely, he just spat venom himself, while accusing me of doing so.

And here I was thinking the christians should love their enemies! rolling on the floor laughing

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

They'll usually also tie you to a stake, set up some firewood and proceed to organize an adhoc BBQ while chanting psalms, prayers and their usual drivel. At least, that's what they tended to do back when the religionistas had the power. roll eyes

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Oh you're just broken my heart. Weren't you christians supposed to show love and compassion to the 'sinners'? laugh

Better be careful, your lovely jesus may just be cancelling your booking to heaven later on rolling on the floor laughing

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

There is a BIG difference from believing that jesus of nazareth existed as a historical figure, i.e. a mortal man, and one of the countless prophets roaming around Palestine at the time, to believing that he was the son of a deity. As to him being a saviour, a saviour from what? Ending up nailed to a wooden beam (same as the surivors of Spartacus' army after their defeat at the hands of Crassus just to name an example) hardly seems an act of salvation. What would have happened had he not ended up nailed? The world seems to have gone on pretty much the same as before after his crucifixion, with the exception that there was a new religious sect, which in time gained enough power to dominate and exterminate many other religions that shared its space in the Roman Empire.

I can name you countless other historical figures who were accepted as the progeny of various deities in history, and while I accept (because there is ample proof) that they existed as historical figures, I don't believe they were concepted of a god/s.

To name but a few, the Persian Emperors, the Pharaohs of Egypt, Alexander the Great of Macedon, Gaius Julius Caesar of Rome all claimed divine descent. I don't think you're blinkered enough to doubt their historical existence (well with christians you never know, you do deny evolution after all) laugh

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Man, whatever you're smoking, it's not doing you any good.

Yeah the world was created in 7 days, I wonder how the dinosaurs fit in. They just went poof huh? dunno

Your beloved jesus was no different to a host of other 'prophets' walking across the ancient world, preaching their own gospel. As for the new testament, it was written YEARS after jesus' death, with the story passed by word of mouth. I guess no one put in his/her personal interpretation of events along the way huh? doh

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Don't worry mate, protestants and the other various offshoots of catholicism have all had their share of atrocities to their credit.

The Salem witch hunts for example? Just another case of 'loving' christianity roll eyes

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Hey it's not often that you and I agree on various topics, but you've got it spot on the head this time.

This requires a cheers I think cheers

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

christians have been saying the 'lord' will soon return for over 2000 years, I'd say he's a bit overdue, maybe the volcanic ash in Iceland made him lose his flight? laugh

Let's see, the world was first supposed to end when jesus died, then 1 year after his death, then 10 years after his birth, then 100, then 500, then 1000, then 2000....

I'm sure in the year 40000 christians will still be saying 'the time of his coming is near'. doh

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

I can understand why you can't mate, you still wear the blinkers of 'faith'. Try opening your eyes and reasoning with your mind instead of accepting a priest's explanation of 'because god wanted it so'.

As for the fact that you cant argue with a one time catholic, I can just as easily shoot the arrow back at you, you can't REASON with any religious fanatic comfort

RE: books - have you read anything interesting ..

LOL good one. I respect Tolstoy as a great writer of his era, and understand why 19th century writers wrote in such flowery, over descriptive prose.

Most of their readers would never have travelled or seen the images the story was describing, so, for someone who lives in lush 19th century France and has never gone out of his native village, how else to describe the hot deserts of North Africa without trying to describe every little aspect of the scenery.

To our modern eyes, this is 'not a must' in most cases, since we have easy access to see different parts of the world with a simple click etc.

Having said that, I've always found reading 19th century novels a good way to go to sleep as I find them too dragging. They still remain great stories (Sherlock Holmes, Dracula & War and Peace to name just 3).

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Hmm, past 30 years, let's see, numerous cases of priests abusing young boys, and the 'holy' church covering things up?

Yes I've read about those things.

By the way, the church's heyday is long past, the Dark Ages are over friend. comfort

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Simple, they get brainwashed from early childhood not to question things, to have 'faith' and live their lives in happy naivete.

People who grow out of this vicious circle (like myself, I was raised a catholic), tend not to accept things on faith, and ask the uncomfy questions; usually the priests not having a satisfactory answer, they'll go on a ramble about the love of god bla bla bla.

If it was for people like you, we'd still believe the world was flat, that the answer to disease is to pray, that disease is a punishment from god (hey, wasn't he supposed to be compassionate?), and a host of other silly superstitions.

RE: When you can’t dent the message, attack the messenger.

Are you saying you're proud of my words then mate? grin

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