have to agree. now you are sounding like you have been there too moosie. fear of death was an ultimate torment to me. i was nearly killed skydiving and it helped me overcome some of it. actually being in a death confrontation ended all of it. we simply walk out the other side of death unscathed without pain or even loss of consciousness from our perspective as we go being a necessary part of that process at all.
yeah jumping out of planes is pretty stirring for your first dozen jumps or so. but, if fear of heights is on of your crazies i have some riveting footage for you to help a bit. so find something bigger than your mouse to hang onto because now you are going to hold your breath for longer than you have ever before ok... here we go. we are going wingsuit proximity flying. you will not be same about falling in about 5 minutes i assure you
you already know life is a dream so let's confront your issue from this perspective. if our live's are dreams in some greater mind, ours or something else's greater mind, then fear is the start of nightmares in our souls, aren't they liad?
fear has useful and rather less useful aspects associated with it. where we experience problems and tragedies we can't emotionally digest with a sense of empowerment intact give our power to act to our nightmare. our minds won't let us remain powerless in a dream we are living in so these apparitions are returned upon us to confront until we do understand we do have power over what is after all only thoughts in our mind we project onto our lives.
deliberate confrontation with aspects of our fears overcomes them. this is the only answer you ever need toward solving them liad. if a fear has set in your heart go to it in your mind. imagine suffering all it appears to imply. if death is the fear at the bottom of it, life is only a dream and death extinguishes this specific life dream you are having now. you will step out of the life vehicle this dream is and immediately awaken into your next life's dream... won't you?
life is a dream something is having, isn't it? are you the something or the dream it is having?? what is a fear in such a dream?
loli life recedes from humanity wherever we populate. life diversity recedes wherever we are born and plow through the resources we feel are necessary for comfortable fun living.
yes, of course, i am aware we do these things. we are apes biologically loli. a great many of us a biologically apes in our logics and greeds still. by far the majority of us have not developed our compassion and awareness toward life as you have.
we do terrible things across our world justifying every collateral loss and discuss it over our next coffee, don't we? it is not entirely the fault of us apes here either. we each and all exact a biological toll from our world for existing in it, don't we? in truth that toll for each of us is enormous indeed.
can we do something about it all really? not as much as you may choose to consider for your more developed integrity toward life there. just for the game of it here... imagine with me the toll on life around you to maintain your existence is the destruction of life for a square kilometer of our world. its not so much really to cost our world for your whole existence is it?
now in your mind with me here, allot an equal amount of desecrated land as it is reasonable to lay waste for your life for every other person alive. so, now we have 7 billion square kilometers of desecrated life needed to support our species, don't we??
a top of my head guess for the example only. but, how do you feel about that loli? more than a few elephants and sharks etc. have some real problems because of our thoughtlessness and lusts... don't they?
humanity = 'homo destructusall' = the most desecrating vicious plague our planet's life forms ever shrank from across a million generations of us.
i respect your perspective reb even though you don't seem so enthused with mine. so, this is obviously a strong issue for you there. how do you propose to correct it for us all...? innocent people are going to get ground up in the mill of life. you have challenged me to come up with a best option and feel my suggestion is wanting but what are you proposing that does a better job and saves me from perps as you imply whichever side of the crime fence they come at me from?
and... there i was thinkin you didn't smoke that stuff at all...
you really should email me yknow. take out some of that space between us next. probably used all my emails for today already and tomorrow when it comes too...
cs connecting singles... so, what are you waiting there for lolsssss? i know a good mind when i see it do you? told you that before i met you didn't i? can't promise you a monogamous discussion because you will be in line there already but there is some fun there with our barriers a bit lower i suspect...
think you may be missing the point still. the culture must be protected ahead of the individual. don't get hung up on what 'innocent' needs to apply. i believe there is a greater overseeing presence that will not allow a single innocent person to suffer anything unless there are overriding elements in that person's past (not necessarily in this life time only) causing/allowing them to suffer in whatever ways we do.
this implies karma is real. i believe we have an overriding presence that will never allow us to escape the results of uncompassionate behaviors imposed against 'life'.
life in this context is the intelligent aware living being we are all a part of and actually hurt when we deliberately debase damage or destroy parts of it. death is not an escape for us. i believe whole lives of pain result from getting this wrong. so, 'it would do many justice' to consider their thoughts and outcomes they inflict for ignoring such 'waffle'.
there is a 'circle of conscience' we cannot avoid and death will only set you up for the next round of potentials you need to experience then. goes by other names like retribution, karma, etc.
also being an innocent locked away for life or murdered is just another of these less comfortable goodies, perspectives, we can explore toward our soul's hunger for knowledge and experiencing here. there are a great many events we can be led into that we would not willingly seek in this process. we can each in turn be yanked out of any problem or life situation at its whim in a second. many of us experience these and life just seems to flow on my around these abrupt miracles in our terms.
being perennially living aware beings beyond our bodies makes all of it just temporary adventures we step away from when we have the needs of our greater selves in any area of life met then.
our states lock up innocents by the thousands in my opinion... the war on drugs comes to mind. thousands have their lives destroyed over a handful of weed or less in the us constantly. internment destroys lives. brainwashing our kids and sending them to murder in other lands destroys their lives too.
these perps are maniacs ever in the news for these events. should they be left to keep on going or do they deserve something saving us from them while we are on topic here too??
so you are happy to lock up the innocent for life and feed them and look after them but not give them the easy out you offer perps you initially judge them to be?
i think you are near the truth. the culture must be protected in spite or our mistakes delivered upon the few.
what about those locked up for years over deliberately very bad laws such as the war on drugs?? how many of those innocents will you destroy in your zeal to protect us? what does destroying their lives protect us from? what does it protect you from reb...??
hey reb... but, so what?? isn't it worth the murder of a few innocents now and then to keep the rabble off the streets and hurt them for their heinous sick misdeedZ??
do you rehabilitate a too damaged mind and experiment toward an answer...? no, it is virtually impossible. like with the deliberately allowed/inflicted damage in soldiers exposed to horrors, the trauma of their passage across life guarantees they are damaged more and more the longer they live out the roleplays inwardly presented toward inner needed repair.
do you punish a desperately damaged mind for being out of personal control and doing more damage spontaneously compelled toward by that damaged inner system of ravaged beliefs and memories? it is fashionable but no not in my book. these people are previously 'terror-ized' converted to damaged goods by terror - always nurture life... but how?? you must nurture his damaged life in your solution. you must nurture victims in your solution. you must nurture future potential victims in your solution.
when a conflict of this magnitude develops you must be prepared to fall back on what nurtures the community first because more than a single life is involved. stop damage proliferating. then somebody must either give him a community contributing life or everybody pays to guarantee his future impotence among them.
what hospital patients should be killed because their bodies or minds are ravaged by dis-eases nobody can fix? perpy has an illness forcing his outcomes among us. this can be proven but it would be a stretch to be easily believed in a post or 2 here. history of these events show the clear truth of what i am saying here anyway, doesn't it serene?
so you have made a bet and challenge for me. how do we test it next lolzey? seemZ to me i forget you the moment my mynde is on other things and i turn this bloody thing off?? how do you plan to beat forgetfulness in me necst?
let me know when you are prepared to get on your knees and prostrate yourself before me 3 times facing the rising sun as you do it and we will go for it ok?
but, in yr commitment to give me yr power like this lols i demand the right to keep mine and discard you like a hot brick when you start judging my actions with or without you around. i'll only return enough of a commitment to endeavor to move you toward joy with me from each new stance we find ourselves until you piss me off too much then i will reserve my right to piss you off painlessly and forget your name next.
and, just were did you come up with this idea life is sacred loly?? god has no qualms at all of slaughtering each and all on his terms on the day don't he? should god be flogged and flayed in the town square along with the rest of your sacred living perps maybe??
and, what about all those judges, those legal eagles who place themselves in a position above justice and human law on the day?? is a city's permission to murder on the day good enough? after all, it is fashionable across most cultures to maintain a hypnotized army of somnambular often goose stepping fools to commit mass murder on your behalf already, isn't it?
and, if they are doing it for you then are you not responsible for those deaths in the name of your "freedom"? so, lets get you down to the town square strip you of all dignity stick you in stocks and gently beat you to death for all those thousands of ongoing murders happening in your name right now... loly!!!
why were you there heather...?? i used to enjoy counseling around bereavement with people. amazing how much we can usually step past in a few hours with the right buttons pushed to help a bit.
'time to heal' is not needed at all just correction of desperately damaged intimate beliefs about personal powerlessness and our own mortality and that of others usually. if we die and suddenly find a fuller life before us next what is there to grieve if our loved one chooses to progress it there next?? shouldn't we be happy for their choice?
did any of those people in your groups tell of their deceased friends having premonitions of their impending departure? its the first thing i usually look for with each of them. knowledge of their impending 'tragedy' by any means also means something inside is already aware and warning them in advance, doesn't it?
a long time ago now i watched as a drunk teen left every blackhead in a face print in the center of my windscreen. just like a grasshopper... a tragedy for him yes? i knew for week it was coming so how could i even call it an accident??
how did it happen? he poured down a bottle of johnny walker scotch to impress his girlfriends there then gleefully sprinted into the night and straight into my headlights next. they took him to hospital next and pumped his stomach and it saved his life. hospital staff said so next day - true story.
personally i would be very happy to die next so i can go have a life without the imposed limitations of my situation next. i wouldn't see any purpose at all in you sitting around moping about me next then.
now we are getting to the real core of it all, aren't we? morality is just what we guess 'our parents'/'others'/'god' want us to do next to be good little kids then, isn't it?? it is what they distorted us toward accepting as necessary for whatever varied reasonings or lack of them were applied earlier there, aren't they ken??
so, if they are not in control of their own destiny...
why keep them alive?? you appear to be implying there is value to seek for them but we all spend a third of our lives unconsciously living it too. and, it could be argued half the people in cs are clearly asleep even when they are awake, aren't they?
but die and life goes on so where is the point in keeping them 'humanely' trapped in a defective vehicle here? let them go naturally they have better things to do that this now but they are stuck until you stop meddling there yes 2gnc? would you prefer to sit as a vegetable for decades or go do something a bit more rewarding next perhaps??
projectile vomiting 12 feet sounds like a great way to bring down flies in my kitchen. i'm envious...
in spite of cats and what some imagine they may do i've only got one life. it just doesn't end. once consciousness starts it can't end regardless of that crap at the end of revelations.
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