And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

words of a mellow and tempered and humble heart indeed... i sense you have had an empowered and usefl life. so, what were the lessons bringing you to your wisdom nmp?

clearly you have something so many others lack, what is it and how can we all taste your joys too please? thumbs up angel conversing

RE: Need you guys-Moral delemma

open yr heart for an ideal solution and it shouldn't be long coming and good luck. treat the dog as though it has chosen you and is yours until it is clearly not. just love it and see what happens next?

miracles happen, and part miracles just need their endings. let faith be your guide and allow events to take their course.

we never truly own our pets. they are only given into our care.

if you are not to have this one later, your pain can be alleviated in a day. go and get another dog and let go your interest in this one next.

its future will no longer be your business and you may even gain a better new friend next?

you are being teated to a lesson in loving. if it is yours it will remain, its not it never will be... will it OneKitty?

so accept its lesson and just give it your best.
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And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

BLESSEDAT59 hi, perhaps this is so, but what or where is the real and valid evidence of such boundless giving? i don't see it, and, i certainly don't feel it... do you?

my question was: what has god given to you for your faith and focus, as you seem to have it? conversing gift wine

And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

now that's really rubbin it in!

i think doctors are the high priests and witchdoctors, the highest authority of and athiest's world. i also think many of of their wondrous efforts lead only to empty addiction and further the pains they mask?

where in a god generated world do those efforts belong? there is NO mercy in them because they wealth strip from the sick and they dying at the most exhortitant rates they can possibly so callously and constantly demand.

they take from the damaged and the dying, whether they help, hinder or heal... use their time, pay their price!

and, i ask you again people... where is the god in such perpetually parasitic behavior toward us all as that?

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And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

wordz of a truly self built man yes viva007? wine

so, is there room for athiests in a god generated world or should we caste them out of our heavenly plan? elephant elephant conversing

And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

as in: 'because a few of us have more there must be a god' yes?

where is our's and its mercy for the rest? for many years now i supported about 15 people in bali but i have been repeatedly told i am a louse toward them and their culture and by some i suggest have rarely if ever offered a buck freely anywhere? angel

why do i have to need to help them for accepting that challenge just because i don't want to see my friends suffer as they will otherwise, when god, our 'ultimate fanasized do gooder', sits back and lets them suffer if i don't ?

'where is the god' in those who need to bicker and challenge despite our good intent? conversing very mad popcorn

And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

hey sweet_saucy2008, the lady who says something without saying anything... yes? who are you asking me or 'them'?

i will test the bugs in either perspective, are you sitting on the fence with me too? conversing handshake uh oh

monkeys or dreams...

gypsylotts i couldn't have said it better myself. i have been given priveleged perception on many things. in particular i have also been shown the truth behind death and have to try and corellate a new version of this world from that perspective.

simply, in a world where there is a divine presence we all return to, and it claims this is a world of mind in the most relevant discussion of my life with it, i have to reassert my interests toward a living dream happening being the base of all we assume.

and from such a perspective, the biblical perception works as well as any philosophy except the phyics as we allow our kids to still be taught?

even the most primitive culture on earth, our australian aborigines know they came from a "dreamtime", a time when a supreme being dreamt them all into a world of its creation and said go forth and do something useful with it all from there?

personally i don't see a need for darwin's efforts, which also impressed me, to not also be god based? he just didn't manage to carry his explorations far enough for the vast and useful effort he did contribute, and had a couple of simple expectations back to front, that's all...

what do you think gypsylotts...?
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we are not a monogamous species...

but col... so does the fact that you failed together???

being monogamous failed you for years or you would be there monogamizing every nite and loving it still, wouldn't you?

WHY on earth are you arguing the ice you stand on never melted when you also say it failed and was the only right way to go?

and, why do you have time to write here and put your name to it and wish for the answers but not the time to check them and guarantee the fantasies you are expressing your desire toward are correct?

as for 'some maybe saying' you may have been good at it and well clued but it came unglued... 'some' in here have said all manner of things but i bet 90% of them lay in bed with a wet hand wishing only as you do too now?

your hypothetical 'some' 'may' be used to qualify or destroy 'any' argument 'some may say', wouldn't you agree col? using it, 'some may say' you were just VERY lucky to fall into circumstances that seemed to work until the truth emerged and you go so sick of each other you both bolted?

very mad conversing gift

we are not a monogamous species...

that's all well and good col but you are arguing for a dead dog or lame chicken at least!

look back over the posts of this threat and most everybody says monogamy is the only way to go, don't they?

but, and most unfortunately for your argument, from my memory of it you are about the only person from a caste of thousands reading us here already who can still claim monogamy really worked for them.

and, the most unfortunate word is 'workED'. you say it worked for you - but, then you ditched it anyway?!

so much for us bein a monogampous species. so, i suggest yet again...

we are simply not as a species capable of monogamy as a genuine species trait, regardless of all our flowery expectations... Are we???

expectations are dreams but adulterour poligamous apes we still obviously are!

only facts are needed to destroy my argument. where are they?

so many come in saying this is how i am and this is how they are and this is how it should be but the fact stands we are simply not a monogamous ape! but, i am still listening for truth beyond this ever stronger perspective here...?

where are the monogamous apes guaranteeing we are really not all of those names so freely leveled at me for stating them about us in here please?

if you have broken the rule of the theme you have no arguement, do you?

if more than half of marriages, people entering one on one rels because it is their dream together, then fail and separate and possibly more than half of the rest and unhappy for it, and nobody at all virtually can stand as the missing shiny examples...

where is your argment now people? its not that i'm being that unreasonable for trying to explore the facts amid our rosy fantasies that take most of us to hell anyway...

is it?confused conversing

we are not a monogamous species...

its after 3am here so see y tomorrow ppl and enjoy. blah gnite conversing

we are not a monogamous species...

i see you have not read my posts in this thread or my other thread i think was called "how would you feel..." about 2 weeks ago.

have a quick browse for my poem some pages back in here. other posts in it also tell of my consternation and discomfort through women cheating on me too. you have indeed done well for your sheltered experiences.

there is nothing quite like being told your partner is leaving tomorrow with a man you thought was your friend who was screwing her in your bed every time you were not at home.

there is NOTHING quite like realizing your partner seduced your son a year ago and your son hates you for sleeping with his love too for the rest of that time then.

doh doh doh purple heart

And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

hmm, thats odd, i replied to this but its not here now??

its hard to deal with the idea of a compassionate god behind all we see and suffer, isn't it? my theme doesn't really test whether there is a prime motivator behind us all because i know there is.

what i do wonder toward is why so many feel blind focus on loving it is useful? i'm not sure it gives a damn and invite responses from those who imply we should? as you have seen it allows all manner of suffering... and then we just die!

and, where is the mercy in that?? love it... WHY!?

doh

And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

so LoveableOne why don't you go make a better one and i will follow you there...?comfort

we are not a monogamous species...

a good post col. i respect your values and test them only to see the truth of you too. personally its not a topic i prefer but only because of the truth i have lived. i suspect i will live a potentially monogamous relationship again but it certainly won't be with anyone here. wine

we are not a monogamous species...

excellent, catching a simiar wave i see...

wine

we are not a monogamous species...

morgan5 while your compassion is understood, i am only posing the question? its nowhere near as tough as have been already leveled at me here. why can he justify similar yet it suits you to only notice me here???

help

we are not a monogamous species...

for sayin the very same thing in here, and persistently now, i have been mauled and mangled, mashed and abused... which all just went to prove the very same point...

didn't it everybody...???

cheers buddies drink pouring thanks

we are not a monogamous species...

and the only relevant word here now col is WAS, yes? so much for monogamy for you? do you think it will be getter next time...?

i'm sorry but i haven't met the person who can claim monogamy was better the second time around... have you??? confused dunno

we are not a monogamous species...

hehe i want to see him 10 years stuck worshippin the same worn out old frump to his fantasy themes? the pedestals ALL break, along with most of the love and those wonderful vows.

its one thing to challenge and fantasise from an untarnished perspective, but, i wonder when was the last time he was challenged and failed at these same themes he stands so staunchly behind here? handshake violin

we are not a monogamous species...

"Human beings are typically trapped in the swamp of their legends as if it could hide the simple facts of their biology and terribly destructive condition."

i wish i had written that one myself. it is exactly why i choose to no longer seek women educated to western options.

and, i believe the east verses west theme arises around my choice to seek among asian women for future partners. but, i do so because they are not so trapped in this eternal swamp of despair western women demand we submerge ourselves in to guarantee our love is locked in and held firmly in place between their legs and never strays beyond the leash they place upon our lives. conversing

And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

why such a rigid intent morgan5? how would you feel if you died tomorrow night and suddenly there it is god standing in front of you and demanding to know why you had better things to do than sit around worshipin it all your life too?

i play with my words but i do know the truth. i understand you stance and respect it too. i now believe we all have lives and events allocated to us.

some are special and some are challenges and pain start to finish, but, all are valid. even those who won't tollerate such themes...

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we are not a monogamous species...

hi again col, it seems to me i examined the facts before coming to these conclusiong for 40 years?? how long should i suffer the facts before i make better decisions and go live where love works among people with more compatible happier ideas about it all?

i don't need icing on my cakes. i don't salivate for passing women, usually, i get to hell away from em. i don't like most of them.

they are enticement that is empty indeed and when you take a bite god help you next. out comes the list of controls and demands and demerits and all manner of diabolical enticements and bans?

is this how monogamy is supposed to be...???

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And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

it seems to me its harder to live a good life without some bigger reason behind it? i didn't even bother trying.

i've been agnostic too and thought it was fine but then this god thingy stepped in and ended it all rather abruptly for me then.

now i get my butt kicked and soundly every time i step outa line... help

And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

good to see somebody is still awake, its late here...

have i seen god... nope

have i felt his divine present ...yes

have i had a real and tangible discussion with god... yes

do i believe there is a god...no

why??? because i KNOW! it required i meet it because i challenged it to stand a prove itself.

it did and it wasn't much fun but you better believe it, real it is!doh

RE: Liberated in Love: Can Open Marriage Work?

at least we know then don't we??

monkeys or dreams...

i guess if god can't even generate a few good responses the monkeys win by default... yes? banana

And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

so hi Boban1 and what's to love putting all that energy into something that is not yet showing much use anywhere in our lives??

the whole world is still screwing up worse every day and desite our prayers? is there anybody listening???

am i wrong? seems to me there is a better way for many to spend sunday at least if i'm not??? buddies dancing

And, we 'all' love god and live in expection of its credits across our lives for it...

hi and yes that's why i put 'all' instead of all. but, which side of that divide do you stake your claim in life morgan5?

was easier than saying well there may be some or could be many and perhaps its only a few, yes?

but, are there any...???

i've actually studied the idea for a long time and wonder if we could not better relate to a simple positive or negate-ive way of thinking in terms of what it generates for us in our lives nex?

how about you???confused conversing dunno

we are not a monogamous species...

seems to be a very high choice fantasizing toward monogamy and calling it 'morals' and such, but, the fact remains the species is still far from deserving of being classified as a monogamous ape... are we?

if the flesh is willing and the mind is not, what an eternal dilemma it generates? confused

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